GTX 980 was $549 and 970 was $329 and it wasn't 20% faster. Or people skipped them.
That’s not a different generation. Try again comparing 970 to 1070 or 980 to 1080
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GTX 980 was $549 and 970 was $329 and it wasn't 20% faster. Or people skipped them.
Ouch for the 2080, surprise 2080Ti perform this well on 4k.If this is any indication, it doesn't bode well for the RTX2080 and even worse for the RTX1070 on ray traced games.
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Ouch for the 2080, surprise 2080Ti perform this well on 4k.
Ahh my bad, didn't read it was max framerate, was assuming avg framerate, useless graph if I don't know avg framerate.It's 47 max frames, thats pretty bad but it shows Ray Tracing will likely be worthless on anything except a Ti and even then your going have to accept 1440p or less to really use it.
So... you wouldn't be needing that 1080 Ti anymore, right?I don't like the pricing of the RTXs anymore than anyone else. But after 18 months with the 1080 Tis I had the money for an upgrade and the 2080 Ti at 4k is great. I would expect great VR performance as well. But I certainly get folks staying away from these cards and indeed I get the lack of "value" here especially with RTX tech MIA.
Well, I can understand why they added the ray tracing stuff instead of more CUDA cores. They already have the fattest GPU, so there's little incentive to make one much faster, and just like Tessellation they had to start somewhere for developers to start shopping the new tech.Fun facts.
Wow. Kinda panned by HardwareCanucks. Panned by JayzTwoCents. Panned by Hardware Unboxed. Ultra panned by Gamers Nexus and Linus Tech Tips. Feeling pretty proud of these Youtubers today - they've shown some spine.
The real test will be whether they make the "approved reviewers" list for the 21xx series.So much for the wacky theory that the NDA forced people to give only positive reviews.
I read it was about 30~35 fps I think I saw it in guru3dAhh my bad, didn't read it was max framerate, was assuming avg framerate, useless graph if I don't know avg framerate.
That is bad for 4k, but better than I expected. At least it looks like it will be usable at 1440p.I read it was about 30~35 fps I think I saw it in guru3d
That is bad for 4k, but better than I expected. At least it looks like it will be usable at 1440p.
Yep, I'm hoping my 21:9 3440X1440 UW will have playable FPS with RT after seeing that.
It's a tech demo it's supposed to run like shit.If this is any indication, it doesn't bode well for the RTX2080 and even worse for the RTX1070 on ray traced games.
looking at reviews my takeaway is that the Founders Edition cards look really sexy from a visual standpoint...really good looking cards...the addition of the USB-C port is also interesting...love that Nvidia now has dedicated floating point and integer units to go along with the new tensor cores...as far as performance it seems around 50% faster then the 1000 series equivalents
but the pricing is what kills it...$1200 for the Ti is insane...especially since ray-tracing is in its infancy...you have to not care about $$ in order to buy one...the 2080 is interesting in that it seems to be better then the 1080Ti and close to the same price...no point getting a 1080Ti over a 2080...the real interesting part is going to be the 2070...can't wait for performance numbers/reviews on that
What TV with HDMI 2.1 are you using right now?
looking at reviews my takeaway is that the Founders Edition cards look really sexy from a visual standpoint...really good looking cards...the addition of the USB-C port is also interesting...love that Nvidia now has dedicated floating point and integer units to go along with the new tensor cores...as far as performance it seems around 50% faster then the 1000 series equivalents
but the pricing is what kills it...$1200 for the Ti is insane...especially since ray-tracing is in its infancy...you have to not care about $$ in order to buy one...the 2080 is interesting in that it seems to be better then the 1080Ti and close to the same price...no point getting a 1080Ti over a 2080...the real interesting part is going to be the 2070...can't wait for performance numbers/reviews on that
2070 won't be a surprise. It'll be around the around the speed of the 1080(non-ti) for similar cost. What they've done with this generation is essentially bumped 2070, 2080 & 2080 Ti a tier up in cost. It's an interesting psychological mindgame they're playing with the naming & prices. The prices and performance tier for this generation goes as follows:
2070 = 1080
2080 = 1080 Ti
2080 Ti = Titan Xp
The only real improvement I envision in terms of performance-per-cost is 2080 Ti, which is faster than the Titan Xp.
..the only way to save this would be for them to drastically cut prices...$700-$750 2080 Ti...2080 at $500...2070 at $380
Those days are gone, Jensen is updating his leather jacket wardrobe. Time to pay up.
Maybe Nvidia wants people to buy the most expensive card justifying its price.
Without crypto demand, we'll have see....
Miners were generating an income. They didn't pay increased prices blindly. Without that demand, how are these prices justified for strictly gaming use? 1080 TI were $1500 on Ebay. Now, used ones are 30% of that.
The smaller the process, the more expensive the design/valaidation/test fases become...but again, if you don't want to pay...don't pay.
Simple economics.
If the RTX 2080 was $600, I'd buy one. At $800? No way. Not when I can currently buy a new 1080 Ti for $630. Ray Tracing isn't worth $170 to me at this point.combine that with the fact that the 2080/2070 will be pretty much useless for ray-tracing it really makes Nvidia's strategy this time out very puzzling...the only way to save this would be for them to drastically cut prices...$700-$750 2080 Ti...2080 at $600...2070 at $500
Well, their marketing has been pitching these cards as 4K capable cards. If they waited for Ray Tracing benchmarks - which revealed them to be 1080p or 1440p cards at best with RT on - that would negate the whole "These are 4K cards!" message.You know I’d drop $1200 in a heart beat if this chip was all cuda cores. ~35% improvement, which is great considering, is a tough buy by itself. I don’t know what they were thinking launching this without RTX at all. I hoped at least for DLSS.
Why would he go with a 580 when he is using a 1070 currently?
The smaller the process, the more expensive the design/valaidation/test fases become...but again, if you don't want to pay...don't pay.
Simple economics.