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Strong rumors that Blackwell has a Q4 2024 launch, could be top end only too and irrelevant to that RDNA 4 launch.
Well latest rumors have been nvidia is going to prioritize Ai this year. Too much money. So wouldn’t be surprised if gaming Blackwell is mid 2025 in summer.
Yes rumors are that Hopper replacement(B100-B40) release is planned to be first and AI can be vastly prioritized in volume, you can still have a small 200k unit of 5080-5090 that sell out the first 24 hours ready in late Q4 to steal all the thunder and mindshare and have the volume card (5060-5070) launch only in 2025 if they feel it is a good idea. "small" with how price goes it could be like 150 millions+ in sales
Interesting
Current-gen RDNA 3 has dedicated AI acceleration with Wave MMA (matrix multiply-accumulate) instructions, which can help improve AI-based performance and also benefits ray tracing instructions, similar to Nvidia's Tensor cores.
So AI supported FSR only for RDNA 3 & above
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/amd-confirms-it-is-working-on-an-ai-upscaler-for-gaming-–-cto-papermaster-says-its-part-of-ai-enabling-our-entire-portfolio.3838488/post-23215981
For a 5080 to be as powerful as a 4090 in raster would only need a extremely disappointing +20-25% improvement over the 4080, saying the 5080 will be at least as powerful as a 4090 in pure raster without DLSS on, it is virtually saying nothing (when they last time the xx80 upgrade gen-gen was not much better than that ?).
Turn your mere 50 fps into that huge 55 fps !
That's the spirit!
milk-toast of predictions
| Navi 33 | Navi 44 | Navi 32 | Navi 48 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| production | TSMC N6 | TSMC N4P | TSMC N5 (GCD) + N6 (MCDs) | TSMC N4P |
| chip area | 204mm² | ~130mm² | 348mm² | ~240mm² |
| architecture | RDNA3 | RDNA4 | RDNA3 | RDNA4 |
| Raster Engines (SE) | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
| Shader cluster (CU) | 32 | 32 | 60 | 64 |
| Chip clock (real) | 2.7GHz (7600XT) | ? | 2.4GHz (7800XT) | adj. 3.0GHz |
| FP32 computing power | 22 TFlops | ? | 37 TFlops | adj. 50 TFlops |
| Infinity Cache | 32MB | 32MB | 64MB | 64MB |
| Storage interface | 128bit GDDR6 | 128bit GDDR6 | 256bit GDDR6 | 256bit GDDR6 |
| PCI Express | PCIe 4.0 x8 | during PCIe 4.0 x8 | PCIe 4.0 x16 | PCIe 4.0 x16 |
| Navi 48 | Navi 44 | probable explanation |
|---|---|---|
| 32 | 16 | Number of WGPs (number of CUs = 2x WGP) |
| 64 | 32 | Infinity Cache in MB (alternative explanation: number of CUs) |
| 256 | 128 | Width of the memory interface in bits |
| 693 | 288 | nominal bandwidth in GB/sec (results in storage with 21.7 or 18 Gbps) |
| 2770 | 515 | effective bandwidth in GB/sec (including the effect of the infinity cache) |
| ~240mm² | ~130mm² | Chip area under TSMC's N4P manufacturing |
I'll be happy if the price isn't completely insane and the 5080 is close to half of the price of the 5090. My top of the head guesss is going to be a 16 gb 5080 for 1499 that beats the 4090 in gaming by a decent margin, and a 32 gb 5090 at 2499. I love my 7900 XTX but i'd move on if the 5080 is 999 like the 4080 super. But my guess is they intend to have these cards on the top of the stack along with the the 40 super cards.
I'll grant you Luke said 2080>1080ti.. probably misremembering.Yeah sure...if you count 10% as being quite a bit better
USed to look at 4k ? Even at 1440p on TPU it is higher than those
Gaming makes up 77% of NVIDIA's graphics business. You don't throw away a $10 billion market segment, especially when you hold close to 80% of the total consumer market for discrete video cards. Their market share will slip if they start to slack.
How does the graph tell which percentage gaming is of that 13 billion graphic segment
?Outside the 5090, it is a lot just a business choice how much the performance increase the 5070 will have over the 4070, we could have one the biggest jump ever with very little technical improvement, just go back to a 400mm die like the 3070 reusing the current Lovelace die on the revised TSMC node, GDDR7 and you are pretty much already there.
