It's the best GPU available.Please explain how a card that delivers 10-20% more performance is worth >100% the cost
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It's the best GPU available.Please explain how a card that delivers 10-20% more performance is worth >100% the cost
Same GPU (as you know like anyone else - any non-reference card gets a 3-5% boost MAX - not worth the BS - although I do have STRIX and a couple MSIs). 99% of 7900 XTX's are more than $800.They make some 4090s that cost $3000 too
LOL! You bought mine, dude. HAHAHA. Glad it has a good home.Lol I bought mine on this forum thus the cost
Awesome! That’s a great one. Haven’t had that in years.Oh hahaha my bad. I've been drinking
Goose Island Bourbon stout 16oz @ 14.4%
FWIW, worth is relative. What is worth it for one person isn't to another - and that is fine.Please explain how a card that delivers 10-20% more performance is worth >100% the cost
Pricing is an equation of leftover stocks/inventory & competition in that bracketWonder if the super line up is a strong sign of the 5000 line up upcoming pricing.
4070 super = $600
4070 Ti super = $800
4080 super = $1000
$1200 for the xx80 was probably way too high outside a mining bubble world, but can make a $999 5080 look OK too people now, now that the 7900xtx and the 4080 was at those price at some point.
Too true. I spent $1749 on my MSI 4090 SuprimX, did not even bat an eye. I game at 4K max settings, only a 4090 will give me a fluid experience. I'd spend more if I had too, it's one of my main hobbies and I enjoy the best tech and graphics.FWIW, worth is relative. What is worth it for one person isn't to another - and that is fine.
Too true. I spent $1749 on my MSI 4090 SuprimX, did not even bat an eye. I game at 4K max settings, only a 4090 will give me a fluid experience. I'd spend more if I had too, it's one of my main hobbies and I enjoy the best tech and graphics.
I mean, that seems silly in the sense of where things are priced now looking at the field of cards and technology. The 4090 is a large leap at 4K vs. the 4080. If you are gaming at 4K, you should expect a premium to max settings in games without compromise, that's simply how it is right now. I think I spent the same amount of money for my 3090 when it came out (and that was in store, not even scalper prices). I believe my 2080Ti was around $1300 in store, and before that I rocked 1080's in SLi (which were $650 a pop). Honestly, considering what I get for the resolution I game at with the settings that give me the eye candy, I've wasted more money on less over the years. I get about 10 hours of gaming in a week, so easily worth it for me considering this card will last me 2+ years easy, if not more based on nvidia's timeline for the 5xxx series.I hope they charge 4 grand plus for it, quotes like this just make me laugh. I hope Nvidia tests your enthusiasm to pay anything.
They're halo cards for a reason. People that want the best, get the best. Not everyone needs a Lamborghini. Perhaps beyond $2k more people will drop off. We will see.I hope they charge 4 grand plus for it, quotes like this just make me laugh. I hope Nvidia tests your enthusiasm to pay anything.
I think they'll drop off at 2500, probably not 2k. I'm assuming the 5090 will be 2499 and sit as the new halo while they continue to sell 4090s considering they're still selling well.They're halo cards for a reason. People that want the best, get the best. Not everyone needs a Lamborghini. Perhaps beyond $2k more people will drop off. We will see.
Yeah, the challenge is we are not "competing" against gamers anymore - it's AI, devs, big data, etc as well.I think they'll drop off at 2500, probably not 2k. I'm assuming the 4090 will be 2499 and sit as the new halo while they continue to sell 4090s considering they're still selling well.
There's no way the price of a 4090 is coming down or they stop making them until demand dries up. I don't see that happening any time soon.Yeah, the challenge is we are not "competing" against gamers anymore - it's AI, devs, big data, etc as well.
5090 will be at least 2k. My opinion. I am not going to be gaming on pcs much longer. I am going back to consoles. Its too much money to buy video cards now. In my 20s and 30s sure. But I would rather buy ans invest in the stock market with $2,500 instead of buying some s***** ass video card to play games. My priorities have changed as I've gotten older. I just want you to know young people that yours will too. Gaming takes it back seat and you want to look and visit the world around you and not sit inside on a computer screen and do nothing but sweat and play games. I want to go to Italy and Germany and all over the UK and Europe and have fun and go all over the United States in Jamaica and the caribbean. I know longer want to sit inside a house and play video games. Just I've gotten to that point turning 49 this year. PC gaming and general gaming electronically has lost its lustre to me. Sure I'll always have a PC and some form or a console connected to the TV to geek out once in awhile but as far as this being my main hobby. Nope it's going to the wayside.
When you have had tens if not hundreds of millions ripped from your hands ( I have, crazy story!) and have come from pure poverty, you might think different. Money, without a doubt, buys me happiness. I am not talking about the chase of money. I am talking about having a lot of money absolutely does wonders for a human being who rightfully worked for it and is a responsible loving human. Come from unhygienic, phycological horror and shit gets real quick.I get you. But I'd rather spend money on a badass gaming pc than invest it, even though I don't game as much as I used to. A lot less actually.
Call me crazy but chasing money is not happiness.
When you have had tens if not hundreds of millions ripped from your hands and have come from pure poverty, you might think different. Money, without a doubt, buys me happiness. I am not talking about the chase of money. I am talking about having a lot of money absolutely does wonders for a human being who rightfully worked for it and is a responsible loving human. Come from unhygienic, phycological horror and shit gets real quick.
Everyone is different.
See, now I want to know this story TBH... lol. All that aside, $2000 every 2~3 years for a video card is not going to make a spit in the bucket difference in the stock market if you already max out your 401K or IRAs and get an average or greater return on your investments. Actually, the older you get the less this matters as the compounding interest means more when you are younger. I always tell our younger engineers to max out the 401k matching at the very least, but also not to forget to spend on fun things, travel and have fun whenever possible. There is 0 guarantee you will make it to retirement, life can be so random, so never lose sight of the enjoyment in life. Have fun with friends and family, travel to new places and buy that fancy ass video card if it is your hobby! I live to ensure there is 0% chance I will be thinking about overtime i worked for cash, or sweat I put into my job, hell no, I will be thinking about my Wife, the adventures we had traveling, and yes, my awesome gaming PCs over the years! haha.When you have had tens if not hundreds of millions ripped from your hands ( I have, crazy story!) and have come from pure poverty, you might think different. Money, without a doubt, buys me happiness. I am not talking about the chase of money. I am talking about having a lot of money absolutely does wonders for a human being who rightfully worked for it and is a responsible loving human. Come from unhygienic, phycological horror and shit gets real quick.
Everyone is different.
This for luxury like new car, expensive TV-GPU, the older you get the more they make sense because smaller the impact of consuming instead of investing get.Actually, the older you get the less this matters as the compounding interest means more when you are younger.
If we define high price to be and crap performance a $1700 for a 15% gain over a 4090 (the 2080ti was +20% a 2080, +30% a 1080Ti), I can see that possible, not necessarily likely, but possible.High price, crap performance, but "justified" because new tech (RT),
I've been wanting that for years. DoubtfulMulti card installs will be back, multi gpu will appear as a single gpu to software.
The 2080 Ti was still on 16nm, which is why the performance uplift wasn't there. It was basically a 1080 Ti with 20% more CUDA cores and first generation RT cores. Turing was the proof-of-concept making its way onto the consumer market in solving the "chicken and egg" problem for ray tracing. Blackwell is both a new architecture and a smaller node, so the performance uplift should be much greater.I wonder what the chance is of Nvidia pulling another 2080Ti BS?
High price, crap performance, but "justified" because new tech (RT), which in this case would be much higher RT performance, but low raster performance.
I think AMD surprised Nvidia this gen that's why 4090 was released. Nvidia thought 7900 XTX would be much faster and of course AMD didn't deliver and we have a card that is way above the 2nd fastest card.
The chance of 2080Ti repeating might be pretty high.
Never heard that one, the rumors I heard is that they will skip a generation, not abandon the high end.Really hope the rumors of AMD abandoning the high end are not true...
MLID has sources who reckon the RX 7900 GRE will be on shelves in the US as soon as February 27, the start of next week. It's pretty much being rushed out of the door by AMD, and it'll be priced at $549.
it does relatively well for power efficiency compared to the 7800 XT. Also, MLID notes the GRE will probably age better than the latter, and perhaps be slightly faster than the 7800 XT to the tune of 5% or so eventually (it's more or less a dead heat currently).
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9641...-china-no-ones-that-bothered-about/index.html
we're told to expect low stock levels at least initially - and it sounds like AMD is testing the waters more than anything. MLID has heard that if the RX 7900 GRE shifts well enough, then Team Red will be beefing up stock levels (which makes sense - as much as available silicon will allow, anyway).
Apparently, we can expect RX 7900 GRE graphics cards from ASRock, PowerColor and XFX. (And oddly, not GIGABYTE, which was the board maker that VideoCardz has mentioned as having an inbound version of the 7900 GRE - although maybe that'll come soon after, or MLID's source has it wrong).
RGT claims that navi 44 would be die size of 6500xt & navi 48 similar to 6600xt.AMD is now selling the cheapest navi 31 for $550 & the costliest navi 32 for $480
The navi 48 is supposed to have chip size of navi 32 & performance of navi 31. So maybe launch in the same price bracket of $480 to $550 ??
I don't think that's how generational advancements are priced...RGT claims that navi 44 would be die size of 6500xt & navi 48 similar to 6600xt.
That should mean the price of top navi 44 should be around $250 & top navi 48 around $500
I don't think that's how generational advancements are priced...
Optimistically $200 for the smaller chip & $450 for the larger oneI don't think that's how generational advancements are priced...
This would put two new GPUs in my house if truePeople are already speculating that AMD could price the lowest die configured with the minimum amount of RAM (8 gigs?) as low as $199. The top die with the highest clocks and the most RAM is expected to be under $600.
If they don't fuck this up it could be another Polaris moment for them (in the good sense).
If the rumors to be around a 7900xt in performance, could that be a bit better GRE for a bit more money ? Say something +15% performance, +8GB vram for +10% price....he top die with the highest clocks and the most RAM is expected to be under $600.
If the rumors to be around a 7900xt in performance, could that be a bit better GRE for a bit more money ? Say something +15% performance, +8GB vram for +10% price....
Considering the GRE was already moving the needle in price-perf, not bad at all obviously, but would sound modest.
If it would be $450, that would be a game changer, if they go near $600 almost feel it would need to be a 790xt by a good amount (currently new as low has $700) to matter.