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Is that a 360mm for just the GPU or is that shared with other components in your system? If so, what else is connected?Ok, switched to water. Nothing fancy though. Just 360mm radiator with 1500rpm Noctua fans. At this power level the core temp was 59C at the end of the run anyway. Water temp goes up quite a bit. Can't get a very high OC out of the Zotac which is holding it back quite a bit. It'll go higher without crashing in TimeSpy, but I know for a fact it will crash in Port Royal or Cyberpunk if I go much more. So this is a bit more legit.
XOC bios
~550w
21922 graphics
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18127692
Quitting there before it blows up. LOL
Is that a 360mm for just the GPU or is that shared with other components in your system? If so, what else is connected?
I'm trying to determine how much of a radiator is needed for the 3090, whether it is sharing the water with other components or in its own loop.
Yes a single EK slim 360 with only the GPU in the loop. Eventually I may add a 280 to the front and incorporate the CPU. Or get a new case so I can run 2 360's or more. I have a Corsair 450D which is pretty constrained for ratiators.Is that a 360mm for just the GPU or is that shared with other components in your system? If so, what else is connected?
I'm trying to determine how much of a radiator is needed for the 3090, whether it is sharing the water with other components or in its own loop.
Hold my beer......I have a Corsair 450D which is pretty constrained for ratiators.
I'll let you know in a month or so when my block arrives from China.Hold my beer...
I'm using a Fractal Design Node 804 mATX case that I have managed to squeeze my 3090FE into.
I currently have a 240mmx54mm radiator cooling the CPU (Ryzen 9 3900XT). The case will allow me to fit a 280mmx30mm in its place if it is determined it can provide better cooling (my 240mm has more volume, but the 280mm has more surface area). I also have room for an additional 240mmx30mm radiator that I can run inline or separately if I can managed to squeeze in a second pump onto the case. Depending on how much space a waterblock on the FE can free up, I might be able to squeeze an additional 120mm radiator as well.
I guess I am just trying to determine how much cooling capacity the 3090FE will need if I went to water and if it would be possible with my case or if sticking with the stock air cooling will be better served for my setup. I don't plan on getting a bigger case.
That question depends a lot on how much fan noise you are willing to put up with and what max core temp you will accept. That's part of the reason I'm not satisfied with the 360mm radiator. I intentionally bought just 1500rpm fans to keep the noise level down. Bumping that up to 2k or more would probably decrease temps some.Hold my beer...
I'm using a Fractal Design Node 804 mATX case that I have managed to squeeze my 3090FE into.
I currently have a 240mmx54mm radiator cooling the CPU (Ryzen 9 3900XT). The case will allow me to fit a 280mmx30mm in its place if it is determined it can provide better cooling (my 240mm has more volume, but the 280mm has more surface area). I also have room for an additional 240mmx30mm radiator that I can run inline or separately if I can managed to squeeze in a second pump onto the case. Depending on how much space a waterblock on the FE can free up, I might be able to squeeze an additional 120mm radiator as well.
I guess I am just trying to determine how much cooling capacity the 3090FE will need if I went to water and if it would be possible with my case or if sticking with the stock air cooling will be better served for my setup. I don't plan on getting a bigger case.
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is the VF curve is generated on "Power Up", every single time, and is dependent on your specific GPU die. Whereas the vbios handles fans, power limits, etc... on top of you know, operating the card.So I have a question that is only loosely related to this thread, but don't really want to start a new one.
I've had 4 different bios on my Zotac 3090. Original Zotac, Gigabyte Gaming OC, Gigabyte Aorus, and Kingpin XOC. Even though they all have different factory boost clocks (ok I don't know about the XOC), they all seem to have the exact same VF curve.
How is the boost clock defined and are some curves actually higher on quote overclock cards?
Yes, each model definitely has a different curve (3070,3080,3090,etc...}. But I was expecting the curve from a entry level 3090 like my Zotac to be different than cards that have higher factory boost clocks. Maybe some do but none that I have flashed.Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is the VF curve is generated on "Power Up", every single time, and is dependent on your specific GPU die. Whereas the vbios handles fans, power limits, etc... on top of you know, operating the card.
Depends on what card you have. If you have a 2 connector card, then it's either one of the 390w bios or the KP XOC. I like the Gigabyte Aorus bios, but it does disable 2 DP.Other than kingpin, do we have consensus favorites for bios?
I'd shit my pants... lol. Glad nothing fried!!!Got my 3090 in today....
... and proceeded to spill water all over it while re-filling my water loop after install.
2 hours of cleaning and anxiety later, we are up and running no problem. Benchmarks later. 5950X + 3090 FE, should be FLYING![]()
I've watercooled my PCs since 2010 and never had a leak or a spill. Go figure.I'd shit my pants... lol. Glad nothing fried!!!
that would only make cleanup take even longer.I'd shit my pants...
Weird haven’t seen a result with hardware monitoring disabled before. Also says your GPU clock is about 1400MHz which is way too low for that score.https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18316288
5950X is just stock with PBO enabled, 3090X is set to +85/+250 in Afterburner. Pretty basic. Happy so far![]()
I've had that happen. I think in my case one of the monitoring apps interfered with it.Weird haven’t seen a result with hardware monitoring disabled before. Also says your GPU clock is about 1400MHz which is way too low for that score.
I can't figure out why it's doing that. It's been doing it since I updated to Zen 3 and flashed the new AGESA 1.2.0.0. The only hardware monitoring I have running is MSI Afterburner which never interfered in the past.Weird haven’t seen a result with hardware monitoring disabled before. Also says your GPU clock is about 1400MHz which is way too low for that score.
GPU Score: 20,879
RTX 3090 FE, watercooled
Core +225
Memory +1000
I can most likely push it more but I'm fine with this effortless overclock.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18396800
20C average die temp? Dizzzaam, is your water chilled by chance? Or early morning run? lol. I think i see 20C on my CPU water loop for about 5 minutes at power up then it's 28C and up from there.Discovered I could go quite a bit higher on the VRAM... so I bumped my score up again. Finally rubbing elbows with German Muscle.
Custom water loop, GPU/CPU. Stock BIOS on a Strix, no mods, radiator fans cranked to max.
22,416 Graphics Score (Overall Time Spy score of 20,760)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18406811
Thanks! Ya, the man cave/basement was rather cool (~60F) before I cranked the heat up, so that probably helped. Like I mentioned though, I really cranked the VRAM up for the run and it held.20C average die temp? Dizzzaam, is your water chilled by chance? Or early morning run? lol. I think i see 20C on my CPU water loop for about 5 minutes at power up then it's 28C and up from there.
Nice run tho!
Details please. exactly how much you cranked up the VRAM. Can you post your exact overclocking settings please.Thanks! Ya, the man cave/basement was rather cool (~60F) before I cranked the heat up, so that probably helped. Like I mentioned though, I really cranked the VRAM up for the run and it held.
Hopefully you beat me and it will motivate me to bench again.Discovered I could go quite a bit higher on the VRAM... so I bumped my score up again. Finally rubbing elbows with German Muscle.![]()
Custom water loop, GPU/CPU. Stock BIOS on a Strix, no mods, radiator fans cranked to max.
22,416 Graphics Score (Overall Time Spy score of 20,760)
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18406811
Details please. exactly how much you cranked up the VRAM. Can you post your exact overclocking settings please.
Running PrecisionX1 with the case side panel open and a room fan assisting with air flow. For the bench, I pumped VRAM +1700, GPU +108, Voltage +100, and Power Target was at 123%.Details please. exactly how much you cranked up the VRAM. Can you post your exact overclocking settings please.
Your 3dmark test showed that Vram higher than just +1700Mhz though... now I'm confused! lol.Running PrecisionX1 with the case side panel open and a room fan assisting with air flow. For the bench, I pumped VRAM +1700, GPU +108, Voltage +100, and Power Target was at 123%.
My normal 24/7 OC is fairly light: VRAM +200, GPU +90, Voltage +0, Power Target 123%.
I ran several runs playing with the VRAM and upping/lowering the GPU just little at a time to get it to hold. It may have been slightly higher, perhaps +1720 or +1780 on the VRAM... I forget exactly, but to be honest I was more focused on the GPU core stability at the time.Your 3dmark test showed that Vram higher than just +1700Mhz though... now I'm confused! lol.
Memory clock frequency = 1,419 MHz according to 3dmark; which translates to 22,704Mhz.I ran several runs playing with the VRAM and upping/lowering the GPU just little at a time to get it to hold. It may have been slightly higher, perhaps +1720 or +1780 on the VRAM... I forget exactly, but to be honest I was more focused on the GPU core stability at the time.
My VRAM was pretty even with where German Muscle's run was at (set just +16Mhz over his and only averaged +5Mhz higher)... but where he beat me was getting his GPU clock to take 2,205 MHz vs my 2,175 MHz.
Where are you getting the 22,704Mhz number from?
I guess DDR? But in any event, looks like he was running it at 11GHz.Why are you multiplying the memory clockspeed by 16?