RTX 3050: PC Gaming's answer to the Series S

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I won a newegg shuffle and going to gift it to my dad. He is currently gaming on an RX 460 2gb. I wanted to buy him a 6500xt for $200, but seeing its performance on pcie 3.0 and the fact that i got the 3050 cheaper $249 vs $279 of whats available.
 
3050 is an ok card. It's not awsome but at least it's not a regression.
I can tell about everything that I need to know from just the 1080p Firestrike score. I payed $329 for a new MSI RX5700 Mech OC with Ghost Recon Breakpoint free that hits around 23000 - 24000 gpu score on the cut down single 8 pin connection and It's still gaming today. sorry looks like regression to me as RT is not that big of a deal for the asking price.

Here is the card at stock speed on a Ryzen 5 3600 with x370 chipset http://www.3dmark.com/fs/22998152 July 1 2020 was not that long ago.
 
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I can tell about everything that I need to know from just the 1080p Firestrike score. I payed $329 for a new MSI RX5700 Mech OC with Ghost Recon Breakpoint free that hits around 23000 - 24000 gpu score on the cut down single 8 pin connection and It's still gaming today. sorry looks like regression to me as RT is not that big of a deal for the asking price.

Here is the card at stock speed on a Ryzen 5 3600 with x370 chipset http://www.3dmark.com/fs/22998152 July 1 2020 was not that long ago.
You must have missed the 6500XT, that card is pure regression. The 3050 is just okay, not great but certainly not 6500XT bad.
 
You must have missed the 6500XT, that card is pure regression. The 3050 is just okay, not great but certainly not 6500XT bad.
Really depends on what prices you can get them for.

If I roll into microcenter today, the cheapest rx6500 is $260. Cheapest rtx 3050 is $420. For a measely $30 more I can grab a rx6600.

In this case the 6500 serves a price point whereas that 3050 is pointless.
 
I didn't win the shuffle. But, the 3050 priced at $250 is exactly where it should be, but it's $100 off where the price point would have been 2 years ago. As far as I'm concerned, 1070 performance is the baseline for decent casual 1080P gaming in 2022 ( high quality settings near or around 60 fps ). The 3050 having DLSS will only make things better... Anything over $329, and it's not worth it. But if holding onto a GTX 1060, it could be a significant improvement for not a terrible amount of money.
 
3050 is an ok card. It's not awsome but at least it's not a regression.
It's definitely not regression like the 6500XT is, I agree.

But is definitely stagnation in that price point vs a card from 2019 (1660 Ti). Though I will grant it has DLSS.

Argument I guess could be made that that's a different class card, but comparing 1650 to 3050 seems a bit disingenuous considering they are not at the same pricing tier. Comparing performance to performance gen to gen for same price, no uplift after 3 years.
 
If I roll into microcenter today, the cheapest rx6500 is $260. Cheapest rtx 3050 is $420. For a measely $30 more I can grab a rx6600.

In this case the 6500 serves a price point whereas that 3050 is pointless.

For now, yes. I think nVidia could do more with the platform than AMD can with the 6500xt. Perhaps we will see a 4 GB version to slash prices for not being as viable for mining or a cut down 6 GB 96 bit version, possibly using gddr6x.

Agree 100% stepping up to a 6600 at that price.
 
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For now, yes. I think nVidia could do more with the platform than AMD can with the 6500xt
Of that I have no doubt. If things went back to """normal""" today, the 3050 would have much longer legs than the 6500xt. But the $250 msrp for the 3050 is an absolute joke. I can respect the 6500xt for being realistic. There were $200 ones at Microcenter until prices got bumped up. Chances of a $250 3050 at MC? Zero. An absolutely empty gesture.
 
The 6500xt is a notebook chip and it does offer someone with say a 3200g with some nice uplift over APU. I have seen reviews of the 3050rtx compared to the gtx 2060 / 1660super /5500 xt but no 5600xt or 5700 which your all in that price range with what we call normal pricing, Also the 3060rtx is compared to the 5700/5700xt so why be bias with the reviews.
 
Really depends on what prices you can get them for.

If I roll into microcenter today, the cheapest rx6500 is $260. Cheapest rtx 3050 is $420. For a measely $30 more I can grab a rx6600.

In this case the 6500 serves a price point whereas that 3050 is pointless.
Yup and remember the people who were budget conscious only a week ago have turned around asking people to shell out $200 more than a msrp which puts it dreadfully close to a card (RX 6600) that will smoke it.
 
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And still not as bad as a $480 6500XT. It goes both ways with the highest outliers. At MSRP, the 3050 is miles better than the 6500XT, full stop.
Except one of those MSRPs is wildly more realistic. Nvidia can set an MSRP of $3.50 for all they care.

It's a moot point and all that matters is what you can buy a gpu for at this moment.
 
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Except one of those MSRPs is wildly more realistic. Nvidia can set an MSRP of $3.50 for all they care.

It's a moot point and all that matters is what you can buy a gpu for at this moment.
Neither $480 nor $600 is realistic. What is realist is that the 6500XT is trash compared to a 3050, and more realistically both of them are not worth the time nor the effort at their street prices.

Honestly, the defense of both of these turds is getting laughable.
 
And still not as bad as a $480 6500XT. It goes both ways with the highest outliers. At MSRP, the 3050 is miles better than the 6500XT, full stop.
Haven't seen a $480 6500Xt yet. Microcenter as of today:
https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=&cat=&Ntt=6500+XT&searchButton=search

Highest price is $300.

3050?
https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=NVIDIA+GeForce+RTX+3050

Highest Price is: $489 of the two SKUs they have.

Regardless $489 is RX 6600 (if not XT) territory.
 
Haven't seen a $480 6500Xt yet. Microcenter as of today:
https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=&cat=&Ntt=6500+XT&searchButton=search

Highest price is $300.

3050?
https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?Ntt=NVIDIA+GeForce+RTX+3050

Highest Price is: $489 of the two SKUs they have.

Regardless $489 is RX 6600 (if not XT) territory.
The vast majority do not have access to a microcenter.

Newegg at $479
https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-...=6500xt-_-14-126-553-_-Product&quicklink=true
 
The vast majority do not have access to a microcenter.

Newegg at $479
https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-...=6500xt-_-14-126-553-_-Product&quicklink=true
Cheapest 6500xts are still $270 at newegg : https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeo...=rx6500-_-14-930-067-_-Product&quicklink=true

Cheapest rtx3050 is $600 :https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3050-aero-itx-8g-oc/p/1FT-0009-008Y1?Item=9SIARUXHM88053&Description=rtx 3050&cm_re=rtx_3050-_-9SIARUXHM88053-_-Product&quicklink=true

Now to be fair that's an 8gb model. How convenient that all of the 4gb models are in the highly unreliable shuffle.

Cheapest rx6600 is $460 https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-6600-mech-2x-8g/p/N82E16814137690

Amazing, as far as what I can buy today at newegg, the 6600 is actually cheaper than the inferior 3050, lol. If anything, the Microcenter comparison is much more fair. Unless the point was just to show that you can buy an rx6500 for $480.....but why would you? To blow an extra $200 for the sake of it?
 
I think the only logical way to obtain the 3050 is in the Newegg shuffle for the $250 MSRP. Who knows how many they will have, or the chances you might get one... The RX 6600 or the XT is available for $460 or $600 respectively, without the shuffle at all. The regular 6600 is the better deal and it's only a ~15% performance bump to the XT.
 
I sold my 3050 without even opening it. Getting my dad an MSI 6600 now. Thank you nvidia mindshare...
 
I "learned my lesson" after buying the GTX 960 4GB.

If it doesn't have at least a "7" on the box, I'm not dropping a dime.

Alas, the gaming cards aren't what they used to be for the sub-300 sector..
For people playing at 1080p, those (x6xx and even x5xx) cards are great.
So we got new info on the RX 6500 today.
https://hardforum.com/threads/the-6...u-pc-gaming-peasants.2015965/#post-1045237805

At the same time we got information of Nvidia's budget solution.
https://www.techpowerup.com/290516/...reflex-omniverse-ai-driving-and-more#comments

We were shown a few slides and they are rather deceptive for this GPU release. In other news, water is wet.
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This first slide looks like massive performance increases. I have a feeling, though, that these games and settings are such that they really take a hit with 2 and 4 GB vram. A few tweaks would likely see things much closer together.
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Then there is this gem. Possibly the gayest GPU graph ever. You could have just had a check next to the 3050 for RTX and none for the older cards.
Ignore any slides that do not specify resolution. It says RT+DLSS, but the rest of the settings might be (probably are) at their lowest. DLSS is on performance for sure.
 
Newegg put a $399 Zotac 3050 in the shuffle today. It was $250 in the shuffle on launch day. I think that extra $59 for the MSI 6600 makes more sense. I bet it's a pretty easy shuffle to win today. But I'm not trying for anything
 
Does the EVGA Que site include the RTX 3050 on offer? Can't seem to check without an account.
 
If you don't have an account, you don't need to bother. EVGA favors old customers. It's right in the explinaton on how the Que 3.0 works
 
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If you don't have an account, you don't need to bother. EVGA favors old customers. It's right in the explinaton on how the Que 3.0 works

I bought an EVGA 7600GTS on launch. Is that an old enough product for me to be considered an old customer?


And does anyone know if the RTX 3050 is available via the Que, or is it only for the RTX 3090?
 
I bought an EVGA 7600GTS on launch. Is that an old enough product for me to be considered an old customer?


And does anyone know if the RTX 3050 is available via the Que, or is it only for the RTX 3090?
Well yes, If you have traceable evidence since then. The que instructions state to register all your Evga products to increase your priority. I have bought EVGA products through the years too, but I don't remember if I registered anything. I bought a 500 BR power supply a few years ago through EVGA site but it says I don't have a username. I wouldn't mind waiting for a good deal but reading how it works, read as don't bother to me.
 
Does the EVGA Que site include the RTX 3050 on offer? Can't seem to check without an account.
Yes. I put in for the higher end model app.6 weeks ago and got an availability notification last Friday so I bought it. Main reason was to be able to step up to a higher model like the 3060TI at close to MSRP minus the cost of the 3050.
 
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