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That was super interesting. I watched the lines move and kept saying "oh yeah, that was when...."
I want to say it was all because of bigadv but I think there were several factors all happening at that time. DC as a whole has been in decline of new members joining and retention in decline as well. It wasn't just FAH that has seen behaviors. Our FAH team certainly had a mass drop off, but I think a lot of people used bigadv as an excuse for their burnout that had been growing. Certainly some had spent a large amount of money on gear without much warning of the change but that wasn't the largest portion of our team in user numbers. Combine that with the appeal of mining cryptos and possibly earning a quick buck instead of spending it on a hobby that had yet really shown any real results for your efforts outside of papers and it made it easy to exit. We still have members upset over bigadv. Some have helped a bit in other projects, but only a few have stuck around. We have some trickling back in for this cause which is awesome. The real test is whether they will stick around for long. I have hope that they will. This is an expensive hobby when you take it serious. However, people forget that you don't have to take it serious to still help. A single thread is still helpful. There are hundreds of thousands of multi-threaded computers out there going unused. If each one merely contributed a single thread, that would still be an amazing contribution.
I personally think the burn out is what killed things the most. When we took #1 at FAH, we had members hopping from other teams to assist us in that task. They had a goal. An agenda. Something other than the normal daily drudge. Once the goal was met, all that was left was daily drudge. Now again, people have a goal. A challenge. Something that makes all of this seem "worth doing". Our team has worked with TAAT to make a yearly FAH challenge. Hopefully, next year everyone will still be around to help us as our production has been about half of what theirs is. And for those that are still angry, I encourage you to join us in the other projects we also support. We are very active. Our numbers are few. But we still put up a pretty good fight with what we have.
ya I remember when evga passed us, then the joy when we passed them and anonymous... the loss of bigadv was a big hit, a lot of people invested a lot of money into those setups
I pledged to never deal with PG or the resident idiot 7im again after the bigadv fiasco. I moved to BOINC.
well pretty sure you don't have to deal with 7im anymore, he died iirc
LTT is currently doing 3bn points a day!We got passed by Linus! Really?? How the mighty has fallen ,,,
To the old timers that have left, PG and VJ in particular are no longer associated with the project.
Ahh, I remember the day we passed default and you can certainly see both the drop off in bigadv and the rise of the gpu's and the eventual rise of the coins.
To the old timers that have left, PG and VJ in particular are no longer associated with the project.
I remember going to the other forums and recruiting members from other teams. BillR (RIP Bill) and I were relentless with recruiting, back in the day.
There were a lot of very active members, and it took quite a bit of effort to keep the team focused.
We also had plenty of support from Kyle, and he gave me a lot of leeway in the DC forum. Gotta give him credit for supporting the team.
It was a massive effort, and took a huge amount of time and dedication.
Could we do it again? Maybe...if there was a project to capture the imagination.
Who wants to be the next [H]ard Bard?
Honestly, that's the reason I'm getting into it. Well, I'm not expanding for the sake of f@h. I am just tired of having decent rigs going un used 99% of the time because I just don't have time to play. At least it gives me a reason to tinker a little still. IE, f@h all night had my i3 rig at 90c, well now I gotta get that cooling problem under control...haha.My cards are already maxed out. Now that I have two young ones to chase, I am very limited. So, all my efforts are tapped.
Didn't the [H]ard Bard do an ode to the [H]orde at some point?
I remember going to the other forums and recruiting members from other teams. BillR (RIP Bill) and I were relentless with recruiting, back in the day.
There were a lot of very active members, and it took quite a bit of effort to keep the team focused.
We also had plenty of support from Kyle, and he gave me a lot of leeway in the DC forum. Gotta give him credit for supporting the team.
It was a massive effort, and took a huge amount of time and dedication.
Could we do it again? Maybe...if there was a project to capture the imagination.
Who wants to be the next [H]ard Bard?
Heh, herding cats would be a dream job compared to keeping everyone in line and pointed in the right direction back then. Even with a team of people it was almost hopeless and yet it still happened.
You're not kidding about the extra leeway Kyle gave us in the Disturbed Computing subforum. For quite a while we basically had our own min-Genmay in here until it got a bit too out of control and off-topic.
BillR was definitely a big part of the keeping the team together. Personally, I think he wore himself out too much trying to rein in some of our more enthusiastic and crazy impulses. He sure did get plenty of good laughs from us, though.
There was definitely a small but strong nucleus of members who kept things going and pushing everyone to do more and do better. We did have one advantage back then. There weren't anywhere near as many projects to flip around on so concentrating our folding power was much easier. For the most part it started with Stanford projects only as they were about the only place doing anything medical. The first F@H project, then Genome@Home and later F@H ver2. One of the requirements back then was that the project had to be medical based. No looking for new prime numbers or trying to crack encryption or searching for aliens here. We don't have that singular focus anymore so we aren't the powerhouse we used to be. That's far from the only reason but it is a big one. I'm not against anyone having left Stanford projects by any means. There was way too much BS going on with that project over the years and I ended up fed up with it along with many others.
Personally, I'm glad to see so many who have stood up to take over and keep pushing. I'm glad there's a [H] team I can still join from time to time to toss some spare cycles to. I was completely out of the game for a long time, part of it being because of having only ancient hardware but other reasons as well. I'm definitely not any sort of powerhouse and for the summer I'll probably cut back or stop entirely but it's nice to see people who are still doing this and making sure there's a home for new people and old folders alike.
Didn't the [H]ard Bard do an ode to the [H]orde at some point?
...that was long, long ago, in a very different time.
A screenshot of the sticky post from Kyle when he got OCP behind the Folding project in 2001.
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You're right, he did pass away.well pretty sure you don't have to deal with 7im anymore, he died iirc