TaintedSquirrel
[H]F Junkie
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Here is my take on AMD issues
1. Don't ever say you do not compete in a market where you are.
2. Please go back to releasing low to mid range parts first on new tech so you can tweak it for the high end card that comes later.
3. Get the FIRE back in your soul Remember the epicness that was 9500,1800,3870, 4870, 5870
4. Get out in front of people even if you have to do it on a reduced budget.
A lot of us buy your stuff as a value/performance deal and this time you have let us down. There is NO WAY I am going to spend $650 on a card that does not dominate the performance of the other card at the same price point.
For now you are correct but I am hopeful of driver refinement. Look at GCN altogether, especially the 7970. It is possible this is as good as it will be, but I find that to be highly unlikely.
Improved silicon and power efficiency on the 300 series? He be talking some serious bullshit right
We as AMD fans hate to admit it, but Nvidia actually helped keep the price of the top tier AMD cards from being to high cause had it not been for the 980ti release when it did, the fury x would be flying of the shelves at a hundred dollars higher all while still being just a 4gb card
Not saying the fury is a bad card but its way less future proof than the eventual 8gb versions. I would love to see more about memory usage in benchmarks on that card than what we have been showed so far. The [H} seemed to talk about it a lot but didst show any screenshots of that specifically or did they?
The semantics arguement is really a deflection and skirting the actual issue which is that a newer generation of products that had to be waited for offer minimal improvements/differences but vastly higher costs.
I'm sure from AMDs perspective its beneficial in terms of margins, well if they can actually move the units, but for actual consumers there is no real gains.
980 / 970 is a superior architecture to Hawaii, if I go by AMD fan boy logic which they apply on Fury X
So......he seemed to agree with the assertion that AMD themselves was putting out an active adapter for the HDMI 2.0. Hm.
Interesting vid.
I would've liked to see him sweat a bit more over the exaggerated 300 series rebrand claims >P
Specifically mentioning the clock-for-clock and power tests.
Likewise the performance gains that appear to come from the newer 300 series drivers.
Will we see these at some point for other cards (in a unified driver) or will we be artificially crippled (with separate forks) as some pessimists on Guru3D speculate.
we will see driver improvements but I do not think we will get to the dominate the 980ti card.. at best we get equal or slightly better performance.
Hearing that AMD guy talk about using system ram as GPU memory was just painful.. we all know what happens when you page swap from super fast memory to slower memory...
Tahiti beats GK104 and Hawaii beats GK110 but it didn't start out that way.
How can you link to [H] review showing same performance at the same clocks and then try and claim they are pulling any shens with the drivers? [H] review completely disputes any claim that the drivers offer different performance.
Why keep the older cards on the outdated driver branch when a few modders can add a few lines to the ini?
Bit of bad wording on my part perhaps. I'm not suggesting there's a heinous driver conspiracy - or that the 300 series cards are winning due to vastly better software.
We all agree that the [H] article debunks his claims that the 300 rebrands are:
>More efficient
>Good/better value
>Significantly faster
As far as I can see the results from the cards are practically identical and there's no shame in grabbing a previous series card - especially so if it's on offer - as I did.
I'll be amazed if the higher memory count makes any difference in crossfire or otherwise - I'd expect for most launch titles that feature simply won't work - like usual!
Eurogamer have done a similar comparison further down the page.
I was only really suggesting that there does appear to be some improvements when using modded 300 series drivers on a 200 series card: Assassins Creed Unity is improved, my cutscene issues in GTA V are solved as is my crashing in the Witcher 3, others report less stuttering overall and better results in synthetic tests which should bode well for the future?
Why keep the older cards on the outdated driver branch when a few modders can add a few lines to the ini?
I can't see youtube at work, but I did catch this the other day:
AMD: The Radeon R9 390 and 390X Arent Rebadges New Power Management uArch, Higher Bandwidth and 8GB vRAM
Complete re-write of the GPUs power management micro-architecture
· Under worse case power virus applications, the 390 and 390X have a similar power envelope to 290X
· Under typical gaming loads, power is expected to be lower than 290X while performance is increased
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-390-390x-not-rebadges-power-optimization/
If that is true, then 290X => 390X is sort of like Trinity => Richland.
Maybe AMD will allow Sapphire to build a new FleX-Style card with onboard DP to HDMI 2.0 adapter.HDMI 2.0 should be onboard the card itself. An adapter shouldn't be necessary. I prefer avoiding adapters whenever possible.
Huh?Especially when you are talking about higher resolution displays and signaling.
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Nvidia has an edge in power usage if you care about that (I dont). Yet Fury X I think uses less power than 980 Ti so the tables are turned there and people are silent, suddenly power is no longer a problem.
The 980ti has a lower power consumption than the Fury X.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/24/amd_radeon_r9_fury_x_video_card_review/10
you could almost say it's the same and i think thats also including the power usage from the watercooling kit since it's the entire system usage(could be wrong though). although have to give them credit, for what they added i'm amazed it still uses less power than the 290x fully expected it to be a power hungry monster when they added the watercooling.