Reviews for AMD’s APU Ryzen 2400G are in.

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  1. pencea

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    AnandTech

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12425/marrying-vega-and-zen-the-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-review

    If there was any doubt that AMD holds the integrated graphics crown, when we compare the new Ryzen APUs against Intel's latest graphics solutions, there is a clear winner. For almost all the 1080p benchmarks, the Ryzen APUs are 2-3x better in every metric.

    AMD with 4C/8T and Intel 6C/6T seem to battle it out depending if a test can use multi-threading appropriately, but compared to Kaby Lake 4C/4T or 2C/4T offerings, AMD comes out ahead.

    With the Ryzen 5 2400G, AMD has completely shut down the sub-$100 graphics card market. As a choice for gamers on a budget, those building systems in the region of $500, it becomes the processor to pick.


    Guru3D

    The Radeon vega based IGP compared to the competition is blazingly fast. People that have a need for just an Internet or HTPC will love this gear.

    http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-review,1.html

    Tomshardware

    The Ryzen 5 2400G redefines our expectations for integrated graphics. It represents a great deal for budget gaming rig builders, and the ability to purchase a single chip without the added expense of a GPU adds to the value.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-zen-vega-cpu-gpu,5467.html

    Hardwarecanucks

    The Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G get the job done and done well; they are actually the most adaptable all-in-one processors I’ve seen since Intel’s short lived i7-5775R with Iris Pro graphics

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...6-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-ryzen-3-2200g-review.html

    TweakTown

    Hot damn! Those were some impressive results from an integrated graphics part, and perhaps the best we have ever seen. We are glad that Vega has finally found a home with Ryzen, and together they knock things out of the park. The GT 1030 couldn't even keep up in some of our gaming tests, and we would say they are on the same level depending on how the games stress the CPU and GPU accordingly.

    The pairing of Vega with Ryzen has produced a real force to be reckoned with, especially at the sub-$200 price bracket.


    https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8520/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-5-2400g-review/index.html

    Techpowerup

    Ryzen 5 2400G is fairly affordable and offers a true quad-core with SMT (HyperThreading) and integrated graphics that's much faster than on Intel's counterparts.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_2400G_Vega_11/
     
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  3. THUMPer

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    just bought my 2400g
     
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    Some reviewers are having problems with their systems. JayzTwoCents had some issues with the mobo they sent him and/or some quibbles with the Ryzen 5. Biggest issue right now is that Newegg is currently raping customers with +$30 on the Ryzen 3 and +$20 on the Ryzen 5 vs. Amazon who has them at SEP pricing.
     
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    This is newegg's new business model. I intend to avoid buying there unless I absolutely have to
     
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    Yeah I was reading a bit on these chips last couple days. Until I realized that, like conflicts in academia, the fighting was so intense because the stakes are so small.

    I kid. My point is I realized I wasn't really their target demo. I wanted more horsepower from both ends of the chip. Decided to go with a beefier CPU and treat the graphics as something of an afterthought.

    But imagine if they put out something that really competed with low-end GPUs. Say, a 1050. Man, they would clean up.
     
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    Ohnoes, time to relid grandma's pc!
     
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    TweakTown preliminary OC results were impressive.
     
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    Apparently in its sleep...

    https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-raven-ridge-overclocking
     
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    This is a nice little chip for SFF builds, could make for a nice HTPC...
     
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    They didn't use the sleep bclk bug, 4.175ghz using multiplier but temps quickly got too high to be usable on the wraith stealth, with a decent cooler things really bode well for zen+ overclocking. Especially if that pcgames bclk oc ends up being real and not a sleep timer bug. Hopefully somebody starts doing some oc with a decent cooler so we see what zen+ is capable of. Still, with all cores at 3.9, vega at 1500 (using stock cooler) and 3200 ram, performance overall was amazing for an igp.
     
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    Well well well, looks like Newegg got with the program and dropped the prices on these to where they should be: $99.99 and $169.00. They probably had a pile of people with their virtual pitchforks complaining to them.
     
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    Not a biggie. The 2400g is a 65W part. A reasonable OC wouldn't push much past 100w and if you want more power than that you'd want a Summit/Pinnacle part + discrete graphics (assuming you can find one)

    Does anyone else even offer metallic TIM?
     
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    Apparently "sale ends in 2 days" on those product pages. What a load of bollocks.

    Just noticed the Ryzen 2400G is sold out currently.
     
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    http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-mining-performance-nicehash-xmr-stak_202662

    "Mining on both the Ryzen 5 2400G CPU and GPU increased the temperature up to 59C on average with the maximum temperature being 70C. It doesn’t look like changing the CPU cooler will improve performance too much as we aren’t throttling and the clocks are holding. And for those that want to know how many Watts the AMD Ryzen 5 2400G is using… We are sitting at 18.5 Watts with the system at idle and we are mining at 68.3 Watts! With 68 Watts power draw and a hashrate of 270 H/s we are looking at making $0.45 per day in revenue on Nicehash-CryptoNight. The profit after electric expenses for 24/7 mining would be roughly $0.32 per day or around $116 a year at current prices and difficulties."

    So, as expected CPU hashing is limited to 2 cryptonight threads because of only 4MB of L3 cache.
     
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    Yeah, I just quoted Extremetech because it caught my attention the wording used in the article: "AMD also notes it has transitioned to a revised CPU package and a traditional nonmetallic TIM for the 2400G and 2200G."
     
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    That's Neweggs new business model, be prepared for it to go in and out of stock frequently for the next few weeks at the same time raising and lowering the price
     
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    Looking to see how this runs on my H80i in the near future. Looks like these use good silicon and 4.0 ghz should be no problem.

    The best part is that the 2400g is still a good base cpu if I ever want to get a better gpu (and when prices drop) That was not the case with past APUs. For my purposes though, Vega 11 will be enough.

    I
     
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    There is definately some optimization that needs to happen for Vega 11. It should have been 38% faster than the Vega 8 in the 2200g, but it was often half that or less.

    No way is the cpu is the bottleneck as the 2400g plus a gt 1050 would get nearly twice the fps.
     
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    Assuming everything is working as intended, that bottleneck is likely the memory. This is why we shouldn't get too excited for classic APUs, as the graphics have a hard performance ceiling.

    AMD needs to figure that out at some point- maybe they'll engineer some HBM into an AM4 part?
     
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    Memory bandwidth is over 3x of that of the a12-9800 yet less than twice the performance, so it is strange the memory speed is still holding it back this much.

    However, it is still the case from what techspot is showing on memory scaling.
     
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    It's easy to see why Intel did Kaby G the way they did- giving the AMD GPU an HBM stack means that they'll be able to punch up another class or two.

    Figuring out how to do that in a consumer socket- which AMD is uniquely positioned to do!- should be high on their list.
     
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    In regards to if future products will be soldered or not. Reply is from AMD marketing.
     
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    Jay had a bad board.
     
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    I will avoid MSI for AM4 altogether. My B-350 Mortar came DoA and I have seen very bad reviews for most of their AM4 boards.
     
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    That would be tough for sure. If GOU prices continue this way, it would be in AMDs best interest to launch a '2600g'.

    Maybe a R5 1600 with Vega 32 all packaged on TR4 with quad channel memory...
     
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    My question is, is that what AMD really envisaged with this family of part? sure they can make a high end APU and ramp up the costs and the inherent manufacturing hurdles but APU's are perfect for their intended market and now they are not held back by Bulldozer cores. This is a fantastic product for many people and outside factors that AMD cannot control ie: RAM shortages it is hard to sniff AMD in the 500USD bracket now, the kind of systems OEM's love.

    On a curiousity side I would love to see AMD release a full GCN core with a sprinkle of HBM to tap into that GTX 1050/RX560 range and make every 150USD graphics card obselete. Given the most played games in the world or populist games are mostly all potato level specs required, this is a great cheap upgrade for many.

    Beyond gaming this is a nifty media system, probably overkill but hey its a product that will take more money away from intel.
     
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    its odd, MSI has been good to me and ASUS has been a absolute dog to me. Asrock though stole my money, they give a lot of everything for a low price compared to similar competitors parts. Gigabyte has been dead to me a long time now.
     
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    metallic thermal paste will never become standard usage due to the risk they carry. Seen liquid metal go wrong and take out an entire PC, it opens up huge pitfalls later. You can DIY and in the event of something going wrong you cannot hold AMD liable.
     
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    The faster CPU is going to be more bandwidth hungry for one.
     
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    "Extremetech confirms that now AMD uses "nonmetallic TIM"."


    The word "now" you used puts the conversation in a negative tone like AMD made a quick change to TIM going forward. The truth is, they always have for APUs
     
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    not surprised they continued to use standard TIM for these APU's and honestly based on temps shown with the full aluminum wraith stealth cooler it'll be a non issue.
     
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    I am assuming you mean the gpu portion of the faster cpu.

    Yes, this really shows when techspot overclocked. The 2400g was some 30% faster than the 2200g at stock speeds. When overclocking both, the 2400g was less than 10% faster, as if it hit a big wall and the only way to get through was with faster memory.

    It looks like the 35 gb/s is enough bandwidth for Vega 8, even o/c, but it looks like Vega 11 wants a bit more.
     
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    I want to stress that this is for AM4 only. MSI has been great to me as well, but there is definately a pattern with the quality of their AM4 boards. I think it is mostly a bios issue and not hardware, but a PITA none the less.