Aside from rackmount servers there isn't anything Dell makes good these days, and even then it is still debatable if their rackmounts and blades are good. I don't bother with Dell much and usually recommend and install Cisco UCS.
Lets take this back into history a little bit, did the advancement of farming equipment fuck up the bottom line of farmers? Did the creation of the assembly line streamlining a factory fuck up the bottom line of any industry?
People need to eat, not buy dells. I don't consider that as a great comparison. Plus part of me wants to say that before automation they were using slaves, but I'm thinking my timeline is off.
Why are we so quick to start hating on American workers yet hesitate to hold the people actually responsible accountable?
Some people making a decent wage (and spending that money to drive the economy) are probably going to get fired.
Michael Dell is still going to take home MILLIONS of dollars next year. Where is the hatred for him and his ilk? These people are the real villains. They only care about the bottom line while blaming the people actually doing the work for the state or their corporations.
It is true that people like Michael Dell and the like have compensation packages that are completely divorced from their value and contribution as individuals to the company. Absolutely you don't give a private in the Army the same pay grade as a general, that's socialism and against human nature to strive to push forward. But when CEOs are making hundreds of times the mean average salary of their employees and getting golden parachutes and multimillion dollar bonuses while declaring bankruptcy for the company, its BS and outrageous.
However, because we are talking about a handful of these 1%ers, they simply do not affect the bottom line of the company and whether or not they need to downsize to stay afloat.
I am pissed though about that in general, and I don't know what the fix is. Tax them too heavily in this global economy, and they can just shift their assets overseas and you lose out big time. And yes, when the business suffers due to poor management decisions, they deserve flak for that, no doubt.
I am kinda OK with hating on American workers my big problem is that the US government has not in many years seen fit to make other countries which steal our jobs play fair. Good luck if you are any USA based company trying to get anywhere in China, yet a Chinese company can come buy a whole American company and sell anything it wants in this country with just about no problem.
Want to sell cars for any reasonable price in India, you have to make the car in India, same with China, America? psssht, make it anywhere you want and boat it in. lol DUH there are no job here. The only thing they let you buy in half these other countries that is made in America is the stuff they are 10 years behind on and cannot possibly make. But they are moving toward it and when they get there, guess what they will protect that industry too.
You cant get a job in America doing telephone support even if you wanted one because minimum wage means that it is not legal for you to compete on a cost basis with the Indian support. That is right the government made it illegal for you to compete with your competition. But that same government didn't make illegal for your competition to compete with you. No one else sees the problem here?
Eliminate minimum wage and drive our low-tier workers further into poverty? Have you seen how people live in India? Is it the American Dream to live like that? Have you ever thought about trying to live at the current minimum wage? Maybe you do. Do you like that mortgage on your single-wide?
The only people that benefit from the absence of a minimum wage are the people that pay wages. You are right: We can't compete with India because of our minimum wage but it would be morally and ethically wrong for those companies making BILLIONS of dollars a year to pay its workers any less than they are right now.
It is the job of the government to protect the people from corporations, not protect corporations from people. If you anyone thinks that is socialist/communist then it is already too late for you. You drank the corporate Kool-Aid.
People generally earn minimum wage because they don't have the skills to demand higher wages ... there is a reason that an engineer or a doctor or a scientist gets far more than minimum wage (there are fewer trained applicants than there are jobs) ... the government would be better off trying to train people who use a minimum wage job as their primary source of income so that they can compete for jobs that pay much more than minimum wage ... people who aren't dependent on a minimum wage job as their sole means of support (teenagers living at home, retired folks getting other income streams, second household incomes, second jobs could then take these positions at the current rates)
It is the government's job to protect corporations and people from itself (and possibly other countries or other corporations) and not to overly regulate industry or individuals (like it does now) so that the USA loses its competitive edge in the market
Because jobs that have lower value than minimum wage really should be outsourced if possible, and there are much much better ways to drive up minimum wage naturally, and that is to eliminate the 12 million illegal aliens violating US immigration law and drastically driving down the value of unskilled labor.I'm looking for an argument here for eliminating minimum wage. That was what I was talking about... There are a lot more people than just teenagers and the uneducated earning minimum wage.
Because jobs that have lower value than minimum wage really should be outsourced if possible, and there are much much better ways to drive up minimum wage naturally, and that is to eliminate the 12 million illegal aliens violating US immigration law and drastically driving down the value of unskilled labor.
I used to mow seven lawns in my neighborhood as a kid, using my dad's equipment. It taught me the value of a dollar, kept me busy so I wasn't out causing problems, and it gave me spending cash to buy things that I appreciated a lot more because I worked for them. But that gravy train slowly but surely ended as more and more illegal aliens from South of the border were willing to mow the lawns with large teams at rates where it wasn't even worth my time.
And like myself, I can assure you that the majority aren't declaring income and most certainly aren't net tax income contributors. Also, in the long term, I advanced my career into higher paying skilled jobs and have no children or if I do will have very few and they will in turn also end up paying more in taxes than they consume, benefiting society. With the illegal aliens, they are often already adults and aren't going to advance further and have many children and devastate the property value of areas they move in to, and cost more in taxes than are contributed... that is if they aren't just sending a lot of the money back home outside the US economy entirely.
You quote me, but then completely ignore what I said. Eliminating minimum wage is not the solution. Eliminating the need for minimum wage by reducing the unskilled labor pool is the solution.Do you think eliminating minimum wage will help the workers of this country?
You're actually quite right. They will receive a whopping $426 a week in Texas (nearly as bad as Washington's $604 a week for sitting on your hands), with virtually no oversight as long as you "pretend" to be looking for a job, for up to two years.
While unemployed, you are also eligible for an ungodly amount of discounts, especially if you have kids, so Texas' low cost of living gets REALLY low.
Honestly, if I weren't concerned with how horrible it would look to be unemployed for a whole year gap on my resume, I would have just taken a really long vacation when I was laid off.
It simply blew my mind how much they encourage you not to work. Buddy's live-in girlfriend had one kid and I think was on for 2.5 years or something on extension, even though she was really a stay at home mom and he was the bread winner, lol! She had a lonestar card and discount electricity and internet and wanted for nothing. Pretty sad really.
But unemployed people are just as motivated to work as employed people, and a vote is a vote. So give someone a big handout, and they'll vote for you for life.
Last month the company asked workers to volunteer to be cut, called a "voluntary separation program" (VSP), where it asked employees to quit in exchange for a severance package. Not every employee was eligible. Some employees were not happy about the program, saying they had to throw their name in the hat weeks before they would hear if they were accepted.
A source close to the company tells us that the employees heard on Monday who was accepted. This source says that the most heavily affected departments were finance, services, accounting, and sales. Employees who got the ok must stay until the end of January, we're told.
This source thinks that if a broader layoff is coming, it might not be for a few more weeks, until after all of the people leaving under the VSP program have left.
I'm trying to figure out how this works. Signing up to be cut? Morale has to be in the shitter.