Red Dead Redemption 2 Review "Buy, Wait for Sale, Rent, Never Touch?"

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We have really come to appreciate this guy's reviews over at ACG. He does better work than most of the "professional" game reviewers out there. You can grab Red Dead Redemption 2 now for PS4 and XBone. Hopefully we will see this be more than a pleb release this time around.

The video review.
 
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M76 said:
Or Wait for PC.
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I'm satisfying my need to play this by watching a let's play and talking to literally all my coworkers. It's hard, man. I'm getting offers for used PS4's. I hope I can hold out.
 
"controls like a barely sentient sack of wet dicks"

this is my real fear for the PC port, retarded control decisions like, say, state of decay would totally turn me off
 
jojo69 said:
"controls like a barely sentient sack of wet dicks"

this is my real fear for the PC port, retarded control decisions like, say, state of decay would totally turn me off
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The problem with RDR2 is the entire interface and controls are designed around consoles and RDR2 has A LOT of controls. It's mostly a combination of holding down a button while pressing another button and cycling through items then releasing the button to use or equip selected items. I can see this being frustrating to play with a M/KB, all the previous GTA games were the same way for me especially movement as it's tied to analog stick pressure.
 
NickJames said:
The problem with RDR2 is the entire interface and controls are designed around consoles and RDR2 has A LOT of controls. It's mostly a combination of holding down a button while pressing another button and cycling through items then releasing the button to use or equip selected items. I can see this being frustrating to play with a M/KB, all the previous GTA games were the same way for me especially movement as it's tied to analog stick pressure.
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It is incredibly frustrating to play with a controller, coupled with some pretty big contextual issues this game is so far like slogging through that sentient sack of wet dicks. I cannot count the number of times my immersion has been ruined because I pulled my gun instead of a menu, or grabbed someone instead of interacting with the object I'm facing, or had to re-equip my weapons because I got on my horse (WTF?), I'm only a few hours in, so I am certain there will be many more issues.
 
ACG is the best game reviewer on youtube period.
His reviews are informative and always entertaining.
RDR2 looks great and I would probably buy on day one when released on PC.
 
jojo69 said:
"controls like a barely sentient sack of wet dicks"

this is my real fear for the PC port, retarded control decisions like, say, state of decay would totally turn me off
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My keyboard and mouse have way more control options. No need to do a joy stick half roll and press triangle while holding X and left trigger. I've got a spare button to use.
 
Controls are clunky sure. But if you play for longer than 20 minutes and are experienced gamer like we hope you are, you'll get the hang of them
 
Eshelmen said:
Controls are clunky sure. But if you play for longer than 20 minutes and are experienced gamer like we hope you are, you'll get the hang of them
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There is a difference between clunky (I see this refereed to as 'weight' in regards to RDR2) which I don't mind and even appreciate, and messing up how contextual actions are managed. I think the majority of these complaints are actually about how the context is determined and not the clunky nature of the animation and movements.
 
wish I had Rent or sale.

2 nights in an I'm already bored. Npc interactions are a big step back from last game. Npc start shooting you for no reason, bounties are triggered easily and unfairly.

Remote wilderness hunting. Trap event on side of road, they attack. Then you loot them, then witnesses see you from almost off screen through bushes. now your a murderer. Try to stop witness, another npc spawns and sees bodies while you are still arguing with last guy. Rope him him run to stop other witness, another npc sees roped body, now you have a trail of bodies and huge bounties.

Reload save, ignire road trap content.

Go on a mission your second horse disappears. Put your second horse in stables cant get it out.

The cost-resource is stupid.

Hat costs 20$. kill 8 buffalo 4 trips, one per horse trip to buy hat.

Kill a bald eagle, get 2 feathers for arrow upgrades.

Out hunting legendary buffalo? well until you've succeeded once so trail gets known, the dozen rabbit tracks look just like buffalo trails.

You loot a perfect or legendary, well carcasses rot and there like 5 places it could be accepted and best used. Long ride from each other. 3/5 wont accept it. One will give $2.50, the fifth will take it for future gear crafting.

Like all rockstar games, dont talk to anyone if you dont have 90 seconds to 2 hours available in case you get locked into an unsaveable quest line. If you do leave, the legendary bear will be dead and loot gone from your horse but the main item in your inventory so, quest over?

But hey major gameplay flaws are ignored because they made the mandatory and cringey "muh Jewish communist suffragette quest."

Anyone who calls dynasty warriors a mindless button masher has never tried to "run" in a rockstar game. Note there is finally an option to make run a toggle. Highly suggest it.

Maybe someone will remake gun 2005.
 
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joobjoob said:
wish I had Rent or sale.

2 nights in an I'm already bored. Npc interactions are a big step back from last game. Npc start shooting you for no reason, bounties are triggered easily and unfairly.

Remote wilderness hunting. Trap event on side of road, they attack. Then you loot them, then witnesses see you from almost off screen through bushes. now your a murderer. Try to stop witness, another npc spawns and sees bodies while you are still arguing with last guy. Rope him him run to stop other witness, another npc sees roped body, now you have a trail of bodies and huge bounties.

Reload save, ignire road trap content.

Go on a mission your second horse disappears. Put your second horse in stables cant get it out.

The cost-resource is stupid.

Hat costs 20$. kill 8 buffalo 4 trips, one per horse trip to buy hat.

Kill a bald eagle, get 2 feathers for arrow upgrades.

Out hunting legendary buffalo? well until you've succeeded once so trail gets known, the dozen rabbit tracks look just like buffalo trails.

You loot a perfect or legendary, well carcasses rot and there like 5 places it could be accepted and best used. Long ride from each other. 3/5 wont accept it. One will give $2.50, the fifth will take it for future gear crafting.

Like all rockstar games, dont talk to anyone if you dont have 90 seconds to 2 hours available in case you get locked into an unsaveable quest line. If you do leave, the legendary bear will be dead and loot gone from your horse but the main item in your inventory so, quest over?

But hey major gameplay flaws are ignored because they made the mandatory and cringey "muh Jewish communist suffragette quest."

Anyone who calls dynasty warriors a mindless button masher has never tried to "run" in a rockstar game. Note there is finally an option to make run a toggle. Highly suggest it.

Maybe someone will remake gun 2005.
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Excellent post. I was blown away by the XBone X 4K performance so much that I upgraded an old Xbox One S to the X version for my lounge TV - not dissappointed there. In so many ways it's an amazing game but equally as many other frustrating, immersion breaking gameplay features. I'm gonna hang in there for a bit doing stuff outside the main story until they patch a few things out.
 
Aireoth said:
It is incredibly frustrating to play with a controller, coupled with some pretty big contextual issues this game is so far like slogging through that sentient sack of wet dicks. I cannot count the number of times my immersion has been ruined because I pulled my gun instead of a menu, or grabbed someone instead of interacting with the object I'm facing, or had to re-equip my weapons because I got on my horse (WTF?), I'm only a few hours in, so I am certain there will be many more issues.
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I had really high expectations for this and preloaded it the night before it came out. It took me 2 days to get through to chapter 2 because I was bored. After I got to Chapter 2, the micromanaging aspect is just too much. Not being able to run in towns/buildings sucks and the "weighteness" everyone refers to is a deal breaker for me as well.

Rent first, then buy on sale if you like it.... (The graphics are purty tho)
 
I'll get it day 1 on PC. Had a lot of fun on a friends PS4.

I think what people are complaining about is that you have to make deliberate movements. Not just panicky button spam like that reddit video.
 
Upgrayedd said:
I'll get it day 1 on PC. Had a lot of fun on a friends PS4.

I think what people are complaining about is that you have to make deliberate movements. Not just panicky button spam like that reddit video.
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Idiocracy is here...……….so you must be 500 years in the past ;)
 
I'll double dip and pick up PC version when it hits too, but really liking it. Was going to wait, but with GameStop tradein deals was able to upgrade to an Xbox one x for 50$.
My only beefs are I continue to hate the target 30fps, and the control complaints do have some merit.
As to the folks being bored, or complaints of micromanagement, I just don't get it. Also the only place you can't run is your camp as far as I can tell, no issues running in town for me.
The fake hdr is irritating, but not a deal breaker.

Probably the thing that impressed me the most, was all the little details, all the notes and letters are objects you pick up to read, holding the sheet of paper in your hands, every one hand written. The fact that looting involves actually going through drawers and picking up actual items in then. The fact that skinning involves actual detailed animations different for each animal... And all the little touches that add up.
 
I absolutely adore the game. Paired with watching Westworld the last 2 years...this is ad ream come true. Just naked a name Evan Rachel Woods and all would be good.
 
I'll admit I went to go see the price on steam, saw it was console only, threw my hands up and walked away. I bought a goddamn GTX and 34P for a reason. *grumpyface*
 
Rockstar seems like one of the few developers that put out a good game worth paying full price. From the videos I've seen this looks great and hopefully they release a zombie DLC like for the original.
 
RDR2s controls are just like GTA V which is floaty. In GTA V it wasn’t to terrible because it was modern. There are many nuances in RDR2 that make that feel far worse.

It’s like comparing Little Big Planet with Dead Cells when you look at Horizon ZD.
 
NmCRooK said:
I had really high expectations for this and preloaded it the night before it came out. It took me 2 days to get through to chapter 2 because I was bored. After I got to Chapter 2, the micromanaging aspect is just too much. Not being able to run in towns/buildings sucks and the "weighteness" everyone refers to is a deal breaker for me as well.

Rent first, then buy on sale if you like it.... (The graphics are purty tho)
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I've been busy but haven't even gotten there yet. Had to restart the game after the first mission because my player was crouched over and wouldn't get up. Restarted, had to play that again and did a mission or two and put it down. Haven't gone back to it yet.

I don't know but playing that semi long slow first mission twice in a row really dropped my interest in the game. Not a great way to get the game started.
 
I got it for $35 and still not sure how I feel about it.

Glad I didn’t pay retail.
 
I have for XoX and first thing I would say is the GFX are not good. Even on a 4k HDR LG OLED.

Next the beginning is sooooo slow it’s really hard to play. I actually got bored after 2 hours and turned it off. It’s a pain in the @$$ just to walk around.

Controls are so far VERY BAD.

I’ll play more today but so far 5/10
 
LightsOut41 said:
Agreed. The beginning is awful with horrible and boring writing.
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I thought the opposite. Writing is stellar and the developer had the confidence to begin the story by slowly unraveling an onion rather than immediate instant gratification and being shot out of a cannon. The whole point of the beginning is feeling the gang struggling to get out of bleak, shitty conditions.

Better than a goldfish-level attention span is fundamental to getting the most out of this game.
 
Joust said:
My keyboard and mouse have way more control options. No need to do a joy stick half roll and press triangle while holding X and left trigger. I've got a spare button to use.
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Yeah well, in State of Decay when you push "S" instead of backing away from the threat weapons front, your character turns his back on the threat, that is the kind of retarded control decision I was talking about.

A lot of the console ports are substandard on PC, I hope this one does it right.
 
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