To my knowledge none of the CRTs were wide gamut. Somebody feel free to correct but I am pretty sure that is accurate.
The designers I know are all aware of the issue and use sRGB LCDs for that very reason. The designers that I know that want wide gamut are all print designers.
Apple has more color management options but to be honest I don't use that OS. Does anyone know?
But yes, if an OS was color aware, with the right color management settings this would not be an issue. That said, I think that is a highly unlikely scenario. I don’t think the solution that Firefox is experimenting with will catch on. The reason the real push behind wide gamut is HDTV and none PC media. Color standards are designed with both the web (PC) and HDTV in mind.
Agreed. I tend wonder whether we will see an in between standard or whether they are waiting for scRGB to be a reality. It could be a good 10 years off it that is the case.I belive the same, to some degree. However with a foreseeable horizon, we are going to go beyond 8bit / component colour and HDR imaging, so I assume once we get there technology-wise, we'll also have wider colour space as standard. However, I don't expect this to happen anytime soon, nor do I believe that the change will be anything except slow.
My replacement showed up today, and unfortunatly has the exact same bleed problems (and a stuck pixel). It is a week 51 build, and has better front buttons and 1680x1050 scaled properly compared to my week 44 build. It's going back...
Ya, I have seen that review. Subjective reviews like that mean nothing to me. For all we know he was playing pac-man and didn't notice any "lag". Not to mention one persons perception of lag could be far different then anothers. We need real objective numbers.
Please excuse my ignorance if I've missed something earlier in the thread relating to this - but has anybody directly compared the 3007WFP-HC (of the HP LP3065) and the 3008? Is the 3008 based on Samsung's technology or is it another iteration of LG's S-IPS?
I've long been a fan of the S-IPS stuff and have been sticking with a 21" CRT which has now got drifting contrast (Dell P1130 /Sony G520 rebadged). I do a lot of photography stuff these days (mainly for web but occasionally printing) so colour accuracy is rather important but I don't design newsletters for high quality press or anything like that.
Display lag is intolerable. I have a pair of 24" HP's (2465) at work and they drive me crazy with the lag. I sent my first gen 2405FPW back due to display lag and had Dell give me a full refund.
A cheaper display would be a plus - but if the 3008 is twice the display of the 3007, then it's worth it to me.
As a side note, those with the 3008, how is the coating on your screen? I browsed the Apple store today and took a look at their 30" display. While this is an older generation S-IPS panel, it displayed a lot of the "sparkle effect", especially when displaying white backgrounds. Very annoying and it honestly bothered my eyes. The 23" ACD wasn't nearly as bad (although I could still see it, it was much more tolerable). Does the 3008 display a significant amount of sparkle on white backgrounds, similar tho the 30" ACD? (assuming the Apple I saw displayed typical results in this regard)
Yelnats stop spreading c**p. Lower color gamut is worser for everything. Do you even know what NTSC color gamut is?
High NTSC color gamut means the monitor can display more colors. You act as if it's the opposite. It does not mean saturated colors either, just more colors, and more accurate colors. It would be amazingly stupid for a designer (where color accuracy matters) to choose any variant of the 3007 over the 3008 is cost is not a problem.
With low color gamut displays, apart from not being able to display colors as accurately, they are particularly bad with reds. With LCD tech until recently it has not been able to reproduce reds very well. They have a murky orange tint to them.
My Dell 3008 on left, Dell 2405 on right:
The Dell 2405 is a good monitor but the 3008 c**ps all over it with it's 117% color gamut, and you can see from the photo the 2405 has the classic LCD murky orange tinted red. Notice how the reds are far better on the 3008, and how the colors each stand out more from each other, color shirts are more noticable. In every possible way it is better display.
The 3007 also had backlight bleeding issues, and did it take Dell so long to fix it that the 3008 was almost out? No. So what makes you say that?
And for the record my 3008 has no backlight bleeding.
In the future Yelnats if you dont know what you're talking about it's best to say nothing.
I just ordered my 3008WFP yesterday, however I'll have to wait more than 2 months before my screen is delivered
Delivery is set to 07.04.08
Seems it has really high input lag...
LOL, why are you suprised? It has a scaler chip. Every monitor that has this feature will be slower than one that does not. Its a trade off.
Those of you that have ordered from Dell before will be aware that the order process can be followed online and that the process is split into different phases.
It's now almost 2 weeks ago i ordered my screen and the order itself has not changed changed phase and is therefore still in the "preproduction" phase.
I hope this is because Dell is working on a fix to some of the problems people have listed here.
Delivery is still set to 07.April.2008
Whats the revision? Backlight bleed????