Razer Launches Their Second Phone

Discussion in '[H]ard|OCP Front Page News' started by AlphaAtlas, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

    Mar 3, 2018
    Razer launched the "Razer Phone 2" today, and it retains many features that made Razer's first phone stand out. Like the original, it has a 120hz 2560x1440 LCD with support for variable refresh rate input, HDR content, and a 120hz touch sampling rate. Combined with the Snapdragon 845, a vapor chamber cooling system, and 8GB of LPDDR4X RAM, Razer seems to think its one of the most responsive Android phones on the market. While it doesn't have a headphone jack, the headset does feature stereo front firing speakers, Dolby Atmos support, and a "24-bit DAC Audio Adapter." On the back, Razer went with a wide angle/telephoto dual camera setup. Razer will paint the phone with any color you want, as long as its black, though the 64GB and 128GB models do come with different finishes, an SDCard slot, IP67 water resistance, and RGB lighting. The Razer Phone 2 starts at $799, which actually undercuts recent flagships like Google's Pixel 3 or LG's V40.

    Industry-leading gaming performance meets premium flagship features-the Razer Phone 2 is the ultimate daily driver that smoothly handles your work, unleashes supreme mobile gaming power, and even lets you enjoy an unparalleled mobile entertainment experience. This time it comes with massive upgrades, featuring an upgraded processor with vapor chamber cooling, wireless charging, water resistance, and the long-awaited illuminated logo with Razer Chroma.
  2. Jeremy C

    Jeremy C Gawd

    Sep 13, 2009
    As much as I would like a Razer phone, no headphone jack is a deal breaker for me. It seems that the big Android manufacturers are realizing that mistake and are reintroducing jacks in their newest flagships, so here's hoping Razer follows suit on their 3rd try.
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  3. Joust

    Joust [H]ard|Gawd

    Nov 30, 2017
    Yeah...but SD card slot. I am picking and choosing my battles these days.
  4. Upgrayedd

    Upgrayedd Limp Gawd

    May 17, 2018
    $800 is undercutting? Holy shit. My phone is 6 years old was a flagship and wasnt even half that..phones taking on GPU price like hikes.
  5. Mav451

    Mav451 [H]ardness Supreme

    Jul 23, 2004
    Would love to see more 120Hz competitors in the phone landscape, but I feel like I'll be waiting quite a while for that to happen.
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  6. Vercinaigh

    Vercinaigh Gawd

    Jul 31, 2008
    Why, not like having a newer phone is a big deal these days, hasn't been in a long time. Frankly any old phone works well enough, pick one that has what you want, don't worry about spec shaming too much as it just doesn't matter like it used to.
  7. SixFootDuo

    SixFootDuo [H]ardness Supreme

    Oct 5, 2004
    Yeah, no headphone jack is a deal breaker for me as well. Unless it's a Google Pixel 2 XL which I have and have to deal with. Doesn't make me happy. The needed adapter is rather pricey I think at $12 or $15 dollars, white and unsightly. All in all, that that big of a deal.

    These phone guys don't understand you have to spend an ass-load of money to get good wireless headphones / earbuds. Wired? No where close.
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  8. Morphish

    Morphish n00b

    Oct 14, 2013
    I have the first-gen Razer phone - and I love it. Great battery life, the screen is buttery-smooth, lots of RAM for keeping all my apps open, good customization.

    The only thing I wish it had was waterproofing and wireless charging, but this isn't a big enough upgrade for me to shell out the $800 for just those two features.

    And yes, the lack of a headphone jack is annoying, but the dongle they include has a very nice sounding amp in it - much better than the headphone jacks in my last two phones (LG G6 and OPO3), so I find it hard to complain.
  9. iCrimson

    iCrimson n00b

    Oct 4, 2018
    I don't know, I've been looking for an upgrade from my iphone 8, I might make the change. This phone does look pretty sexy.
  10. Dan

    Dan [H]ardness Supreme

    May 23, 2012
    well. no project linda. Im sticking with my note 9
  11. EODetroit

    EODetroit [H]ard|Gawd

    Oct 20, 2004
    Do people actually buy $799 phones? I mean, I use my cell phone for about 10 minutes a day on average. I have an actual computer for the internet... is that it?
  12. Mut1ny

    Mut1ny [H]ard|Gawd

    Apr 4, 2013
    It's weird to think that people have different usages, huh?
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  13. Aix.

    Aix. [H]ard|Gawd

    Sep 30, 2010
    The real question is whether people use their phones for even semi-serious gaming, since that seems to be the intended use of this phone. It took me exactly one round of Fortnite on a mobile device to decide that it was a cumbersome waste of time, and I couldn't really imagine hunkering over a phone with a keyboard and mouse...

    The specs all seem really nice, although stuff like Dolby Atmos phone speakers sounds pretty stupid honestly.
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  14. TangledThornz

    TangledThornz Limp Gawd

    Jun 12, 2018
    These prices... I'm hoping my first gen Pixel doesn't die for a long time.
  15. nubbin77

    nubbin77 Limp Gawd

    Sep 9, 2005
    Me too. I am hoping I can buy a reduced cost pixel 3 or 4 when the 5 comes out (assuming I don't smash my current phone, which is the reason I bought the pixel 1)
  16. Darth Ender

    Darth Ender [H]Lite

    Oct 11, 2018
    I'd drop a thousand dollars on a flagship phone that had a physical height of less than 5.5" and a width of less than 2.8 and had a record or a guarantee of keeping up to date with OS releases.

    I don't expect to ever see such a device anytime soon though.

    I'm sure there's a market for small phones. I'm just not sure there's enough of an overlap in markets for power users who want high performance, no/few data mining features spun as AI solving problems that dont exist, and a small form factor with no regard to battery size (or god forbid, a user replaceable battery and rear cover at the expense of another mm of thickness). Not a big enough market it seems anyway.

    I don't use my phone for talking on, I dont call people and people dont call me on it. But I still loath any phone that doesn't easily fit in my front jean pockets. It's just gotta be the latest cpu/gpu, decent screen quality, best camera, and the aspects i already mentioned. Maybe one day.
  17. TAP

    TAP Limp Gawd

    Mar 29, 2016
    What is the point of a high grade DAC if there is no headphone jack? Someone help me on this as I can't figure it out.
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  18. cjcox

    cjcox [H]ard|Gawd

    Jun 7, 2004
    It will replace your TV and gaming system!

    Meh... call me when you can add a head phone jack and IR blaster.... like flagships used to have...
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  19. Reimu

    Reimu [H]ard|Gawd

    Jul 25, 2009
    It's somewhat useful if you run analog audio through the USB-C. Otherwise I think it's totally stupid.
    If I get the signals digitally, then I should just have an external DAC instead.
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  20. Wrecked Em

    Wrecked Em [H]ere for the GangBang

    Sep 14, 2004
    I was trying to figure this out too. I think they literally might just be plugging in a standalone dac into the USB port, something you can do with virtually any phone already.
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  21. biggles

    biggles [H]ard|Gawd

    Jul 25, 2005
    Let's see if they improved the camera. That held back the first one with some buyers.
  22. D-Wiz

    D-Wiz [H]Lite

    Feb 17, 2012
    Hardware features are all well and good, but in reality it's the software you deal with when interacting with your phone. This is why I will stay with my Pixel's and Project Fi, android is absolutely stock and it couldn't be better, and is updated regularly and will be for at least 3 years.
    Every addition from a carrier or a manufacturer just feels like post-it notes on top of a painting, even if they are really good, they will never integrate well. If Apple wasn't such a walled-garden of monopolistic nasty with a superior than thou attitude, they could be great, but since they are I'll stick with Google.
  23. N4CR

    N4CR 2[H]4U

    Oct 17, 2011
    I think we need to bring awareness to this little fact:

    Courage saves you almost nothing and costs you shitty Bluetooth headsets with more batteries and interference to worry about.
    Meanwhile they'll add dual damn front firing shit-speakers? Who is going to be gaming without headphones? In public or a place where you need the sound and will enjoy it? I don't enjoy cellphone sound. It's better than it used to but tiny speakers are just up against the laws of physics.

    Anyway... this is what they are 'saving' in space to give you courage. It's a total load of bullshit.
    I'd almost rather have no damn speaker and a headphones jack!
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  24. Darth Ender

    Darth Ender [H]Lite

    Oct 11, 2018
    They want you to buy this to use their high end dac.... https://www.gearbest.com/chargers-cables/pp_1702271.html?wid=1433363&currency=USD&vip=15144957

    You can do analog audio over usb-c. You just get to have fun with adapter hell.

    Though, the dual speaker thing is ridiculous. They could have totally removed the bottom speaker and used the space for an in-device headphone jack or micro-sd or smaller device size. Any of those would be better than an additional useless speaker.
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  25. Deathroned

    Deathroned Gawd

    Mar 6, 2015
    Mobile E-Sports
  26. dgz

    dgz [H]ardness Supreme

    Feb 15, 2010
    You plan to use the RGB lights to attract the ladies, aren't you?

  27. Trimlock

    Trimlock [H]ardForum Junkie

    Sep 23, 2005
    hmm... I'm going to wait till this hits a real bargain price and then turn it into my gym phone. I'll wait to see/hear the BT performance just to make sure its not a lame duck.
  28. illli

    illli [H]ard|Gawd

    Oct 26, 2005
    Looks like they've laid off their mobile division staff and shut down any plans for future Razer phones
  29. fullvietFX

    fullvietFX [H]ard|Gawd

    Sep 1, 2004
    Why the hell is there no headphone jack?! Does Razer not know their audience?