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Holy crap! Good thing she didn't show up w/ a gun.Say what you want about ratpadz being too thick, but I am ordering again.
Here is my story:
Late one night I was playing some aram in LoL and I thought I heard someone at my front door, but it was late and I knew I had locked it so I ignored the noise and continued to rock Alistar. Seconds later I hear footsteps in my hallway and when I turn around I see a psycho exgf (should have changed my locks ugh) showed up and attacked me with a knife. Luckily instinct kicked in and I grabbed my ratpadz and held it up like captain america's shield. It ended up looking like the bedroom door in the scene in The Shining "HERE'S JOHNNY!!!!"
TLDR: ratpadz saved my life; I am ordering 2 more!
Say what you want about ratpadz being too thick, but I am ordering again.
Here is my story:
Late one night I was playing some aram in LoL and I thought I heard someone at my front door, but it was late and I knew I had locked it so I ignored the noise and continued to rock Alistar. Seconds later I hear footsteps in my hallway and when I turn around I see a psycho exgf (should have changed my locks ugh) showed up and attacked me with a knife. Luckily instinct kicked in and I grabbed my ratpadz and held it up like captain america's shield. It ended up looking like the bedroom door in the scene in The Shining "HERE'S JOHNNY!!!!"
TLDR: ratpadz saved my life; I am ordering 2 more!
Holy crap! Good thing she didn't show up w/ a gun.
Just ordered a replacement for my Original ratzpad. It's still in pretty good shape but after well over a decade of use I figure it's probably time to swap it out.
How about a group buy for a sample run of "larger" ratpadz "pre-alpha run"? Pre-orders are all the rage! But yeah, I'd be in for a larger ratpad.
How about a group buy for a sample run of "larger" ratpadz "pre-alpha run"? Pre-orders are all the rage! But yeah, I'd be in for a larger ratpad.
Zarathustra[H];1041386775 said:I think you greatly underestimate the costs to have a larger mold machined.
It usually costs a surprising amount of money, especially if you need any coatings on the mold.
Does that include the legal fees you ended up paying when you were sued way back when you first started making the pads?
(yeah I still remember that, and I still think it's b.s. that they did that to you).
Zarathustra[H];1041386994 said:That sounds about like what I would guess.
What process are you using now, if I may ask?
Does that include the legal fees you ended up paying when you were sued way back when you first started making the pads?
(yeah I still remember that, and I still think it's b.s. that they did that to you).
Zarathustra[H];1041386775 said:I think you greatly underestimate the costs to have a larger mold machined.
It usually costs a surprising amount of money, especially if you need any coatings on the mold.
Zarathustra[H];1041387061 said:Oh, I don't remember this one...
I only remember the lawsuit over that terrible vaporware game console I can't remember the name of...
Zarathustra[H];1041387180 said:Oh wow. That's pretty cool. Traditional wisdom would suggest that the unit costs would be pretty high doing that, and that molding would have a lower cost per unit, but you'd need a certain minimum volume to make molding make sense, and I have no idea what your volumes are.
CNC Machining produces very tight tolerances though. That is pretty cool (and probably total overkill for a mouse pad)
Now that you mention it, I can see the tooling marks on the bevels of mine. I guess I always just assumed the tooling marks transferred from a mold.
I presume the pattern on the top comes in the sheet material already, or do you heat treat it on there using some sort of press?
Zarathustra[H];1041387180 said:Oh wow. That's pretty cool. Traditional wisdom would suggest that the unit costs would be pretty high doing that, and that molding would have a lower cost per unit, but you'd need a certain minimum volume to make molding make sense, and I have no idea what your volumes are.
CNC Machining produces very tight tolerances though. That is pretty cool (and probably total overkill for a mouse pad)
Now that you mention it, I can see the tooling marks on the bevels of mine. I guess I always just assumed the tooling marks transferred from a mold.
I presume the pattern on the top comes in the sheet material already, or do you heat treat it on there using some sort of press?
If memory serves me right, when Kyle first started making the Ratpadz, Func sued him saying that it was a copy of their sUrface pad. Kyle (obviously) won, but it cost him at least $5000 on legal fees on something that wasn't much more than a frivolous attempt on their part to keep him out of "their" market.
I've had mine for about 6 years and tbh, I'm not a huge fan. half the feet keep falling off or are already gone, and the pad has a very noticeable curve to it (possibly from moving or possibly for storing it standing up for too long?) for such a think piece of plastic, I would think it could hold it's shape better. since the surface is pretty convex now, I don't get a solid set of contact points with my mouse and it rocks all over. I am not a fan of the thickness either, really awkward on my wrist.
the surface is awesome though, very slick even after 6 years. and the shape and size are pretty much perfect. plus, I have been using it (off and on, but mostly on) for close to 6 years with no clear loss of slickness. so it is definitely a quality product, just not for my tastes/use case I guess.
Something else to note Kyle; they should clean the area the rubber foot is going to stick onto with some isopropyl alcohol and let the alcohol dry before sticking the new feet on. The feet will stick like a sonofagun if you clean the area with alcohol first.
Ratpadz > Everglide. Well done, Kyle.
How did you get the "Rat" part of its name? As opposed to calling it something like Hardpadz?
not a fan as in not my preferred style of mousepad, not as in i am in any way unhappy with my purchase.
might take you up on that for the feet. I think I did sort out the bend once before, but it came back pretty quick or maybe I couldn't quite get it all the way flat. dont get me wrong kyle, i am more than satisfied with my purchase. got a hell of a lot of use out of it over the years, and was happy to support you and [H] in the process. i just am not sure I would buy another because of it moving around my desk (even before the feet fell off it would do this) and because it is so thick that it isn't very comfortable for my wrist.
if you made a ratpadz that was 1/8" thick or less with a rubber or other sticky backing that made contact with the desk across the whole surface underneath, then I think that would be more up my alley. may i ask why it has to be so thick? would it start to bend immediately if it was thinner or something?
haha, that's the spirit!
i just am not sure I would buy another because of it moving around my desk (even before the feet fell off it would do this)
Anyone know how long it takes to "actually" ship? I ordered on the 22nd. I received an email on the 23rd stating it had shipped. Today I check the tracking and it says, "A shipping label has been prepared for your item at 1:23 pm on January 23, 2015 in LEESBURG, TX 75451." Sooo it hasn't shipped?