Rare Nuclear Test Films Saved, Declassified, and Uploaded to YouTube

Mchart said:
It makes you think how different things could have been if the US would have just nuked the USSR, and China out of existence before they developed their own nukes.

Whenever people give the US shit I like to remind folks that there was a couple year period where the US could have chosen to end every life on the face of the Earth if we wanted to - Yet we didn't. Would those in charge in Russia and China at the time made the same benevolent choice if the roles were reversed?
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We never went to war with China or the USSR. We did however war it up with Vietnam and Korea and Iraq and some skirmishes in South America and some others I may have forgotten. These are the countries I am talking about.

We saved China's ass from the Japanese. Don't really understand why folks think they are our enemy. How much shit is made there that we buy?
 
DrLobotomy said:
We never went to war with China or the USSR. We did however war it up with Vietnam and Korea and Iraq and some skirmishes in South America and some others I may have forgotten. These are the countries I am talking about.

We saved China's ass from the Japanese. Don't really understand why folks think they are our enemy. How much shit is made there that we buy?
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It was very clear in the closing days of WW2 that both the USSR and China would be our adversary moving forward. This is what i'm referring to. We couldn't nuke anyone once Russia demonstrated they were nuclear capable for reasons that are obvious. We weren't buying shit from China until the late '70's en masse at the earliest.
 
Mchart said:
It was very clear in the closing days of WW2 that both the USSR and China would be our adversary moving forward..
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Which is one of the reasons why Patton was killed. Due to this foresight he wanted to invade Moscow while the Russians were taking Berlin.
 
DrLobotomy said:
We never went to war with China or the USSR. We did however war it up with Vietnam and Korea and Iraq and some skirmishes in South America and some others I may have forgotten. These are the countries I am talking about.

We saved China's ass from the Japanese. Don't really understand why folks think they are our enemy. How much shit is made there that we buy?
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Competitor, not enemy by any means. No more than Taco Bell and Panda Express are enemies.

We did enter into proxy wars with the USSR, which is frankly what Korea and Vietnam were, however, the USSR is dead and the political landscape in Russia today is completely changed. Just as it has with our previous enemy Japan, where 1940s Japan would probably commit seppuku if they saw that their country had a bunch of pacifist dudes that sleep with body pillows that look like little girls and fantasize about giant robots operated by teenage students when they aren't distracted by tentacle porn and miniature dolls. :D
 
Ducman69 said:
... 1940s Japan would probably commit seppuku if they saw that their country had a bunch of pacifist dudes that sleep with body pillows that look like little girls and fantasize about giant robots operated by teenage students when they aren't distracted by tentacle porn and miniature dolls. :D
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The truth contained in this snippet of that sentence should not be dismissed, on any level whatsoever. :p
 
So those "teapot" videos in the playlist look crazy. Are those airborne detonations? The explosions look otherworldly. Like some sort of giant "cell."
 
Some are air bursts, some are ground level, and some are mounted on a tower (as I understand it, according to the video descriptions before each of them). That last one, the Operation Teapot - Turk 28112 one (last on the playlist) is amazing, looks like a camera mounted and zoomed specifically to catch the blast/heat/shock wave since it looks like it's capturing just a lower quadrant of the detonation itself. All that raw energy slamming into the ground surface reminds me of a massive dust storm I was caught in many years ago as I was driving into Pahrump NV.

If you've seen the movie "Interstellar" there's a point when some of the few remaining people are attending a baseball game and it gets stopped because of that masssive wall of dust and sand blowing in, that's what that shit looked like from my vehicle many years ago and I got caught right in the middle of it for about 12 minutes then it just blew away like it had never happened.

Of course, the inch and a half of dirt and sand coating my vehicle was proof it did. :D
 
Krenum said:
Which is one of the reasons why Patton was killed. Due to this foresight he wanted to invade Moscow while the Russians were taking Berlin.
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So he didn't die as a result of a car accident that left him paralyzed until he succumbed to pulmonary edema and congestive heart failure?

Back to the topic at hand, check out Trinity and Beyond, it shows quite a few of the tests, even some space bursts.
 
Krenum said:
There will always be nuclear weapons because it makes one hell of a good deterrent. Mutually Assured Destruction.
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100% on the money. Its a genie that will NEVER be put back in the bottle (nor should it). We just have to make absolutely sure that rogue dictators and unstable governments never get their hands on them (and we've been failing at that, unfortunately)
 
Enjoy your Leukemia and many varieties of cancer! All made in the USA!

200+ open air nuke tests, yikes. How many times did the military need to see shit explode to think, hey that might be bad for us. Military brass love explosions, apparently.
 
DrLobotomy said:
We never went to war with China or the USSR. We did however war it up with Vietnam and Korea and Iraq and some skirmishes in South America and some others I may have forgotten. These are the countries I am talking about.

We saved China's ass from the Japanese. Don't really understand why folks think they are our enemy. How much shit is made there that we buy?
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And Japanese treatment of the Chinese was severe. I recently watched a documentary about Unit 731.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

 
Burticus said:
Enjoy your Leukemia and many varieties of cancer! All made in the USA!

200+ open air nuke tests, yikes. How many times did the military need to see shit explode to think, hey that might be bad for us. Military brass love explosions, apparently.
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My dad got some sort of throat cancer from growing up in Utah in the 50s. He got it removed, and is fine now, but I'm sure other people weren't as lucky.
Related source: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/05/us/suffering-effects-of-50s-abomb-tests.html?_r=0
 
DocSavage said:
My dad got some sort of throat cancer from growing up in Utah in the 50s. He got it removed, and is fine now, but I'm sure other people weren't as lucky.
Related source: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/05/us/suffering-effects-of-50s-abomb-tests.html?_r=0
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Sorry to hear that. Glad he's doing ok. Hopefully he was compensated like that article said. Funny, I knew about the radioactive fallout from the Nevada tests, but I didn't know the gov acknowledged it or actually paid anything out.
 
Tiberian said:
No, not fusion as that's fucking dangerous, what we need are aka LFTR aka "lifter" which is by basically every measure that matters actually safe from start to finish (aside from the Uranium-233 component (not to be confused with Uranium-238 which is used for making Plutonium-239 for nuclear weapons as well as in current technology nuclear power reactors).

There are a bunch of documentaries about Thorium-based reactors and they really are almost foolproof - they operate at low pressures (so the chance of an explosion because of some high pressure containment facility having a breech is basically impossible), their "fuel" can be evacuated quickly because of the design of the reactor core (it uses a "freeze plug" which is literally a plug of ice that in the event of a power failure or something similar would melt quickly and open which allows the liquid/molten salt to drain into a passively cool containment tank already deep under the entire facility, and many other aspects that compared to traditional nuclear power reactors are just better and safer.

Yeah, I've spent too much time researching these things over the years and it still baffles me why they're not in use because they work, can produce power in great quantities, use materials that readily abundant all over the world (meaning not one specific source), and there aren't many negatives at all except for the already in place nuclear infrastructure we already have which doesn't want any competition and to maintain the status quo which is the biggest problem facing Thorium research.

This is a case where the old saying "If you build a better mousetrap..." comes to mind because Thorium based reactors and power plants are superior in most every respect over the much maligned nuclear infrastructure we've had since the 1950s but because of that status quo and the entrenchment of that very infrastructure and the people making mad fucking crazy profits off it well, you can obviously see why it's resistant to any and all possible change.

More general info at:

http://energyfromthorium.com/
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My grandfather saw one of these live. Iirc he was paid the equivalent of today's $50 to lie in a trench as a nuke went off near him.

Yikes
 
ZeqOBpf6 said:
My grandfather saw one of these live. Iirc he was paid the equivalent of today's $50 to lie in a trench as a nuke went off near him.
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That's a pretty amazing story.

Do you know the yield and how far away it detonated? How old did he live?
 
Dude is still alive. Iirc he was born in '29.

I can give him a ring but I don't even know what some of these terms mean so might as well ask all you want to know since I won't be a great journalist.

I know they built stuff to watch it get destroyed. Different size buildings at different distances, barns and the like.
 
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