Radeon VII Owner's Club!

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  1. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    Try doing it manually, also post your gpu-z screen with your bios version. You may want to update if its outdated.

    I'd try setting it to 990mV @ 1800MHz first, see if that runs.
    If stable try 980mV @ 1800MHz, and so on, until you find the spot it crashes.

    You can adjust fan to your preferences, and possibly get better clocks and/or lower temps or vice versa.

    I recommend running heaven in window and looking for artifacts. If you see artifacts, stop heaven, and change your settings.

    You can use my stress/undervolt/overclock testing if you wish as template. (as its unmodified radeon vii stock air cooling)


    or you can use this community table, tho cooling is not listed on all of them, and you can't be sure its not just 1min undervolt/overclock for one case.



    //Note: On my XFX radeon vii i can reach 2GHz on core, on air. I am thermally limited, and i feel there's a lot of potential once i'm not.
     
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  2. SetoAgain

    SetoAgain n00b

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    Manually undervolted my Radeon VII down to 980 mV. Had a Division 2 crash, but it looks like a game issue and not a driver issue. I assume that my bios is the latest since the card is an anniversary edition. I'll continue to jump down 10 mV to see how low I can go.

    With auto undervolt fallout 4 would crash the system during launch. Ran with no issues at 980 mV
     
  3. primetime

    primetime [H]ardness Supreme

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    you should not being getting crashes with the division 2 these days.....i think you hit a voltage thing with that game cause i got a hundred hours in that game with no crashes.
     
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  4. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    AIDA64 stress test tool may be able to show you errors (and stop the test, if it detects errors in compute - its quite sensitive to errors, errors would be something akin to artifacts)
     
  5. russnuck

    russnuck Gawd

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    IT LIVES!!!!

    After all that headache, it looks like I have a good one. Might see how far I can push it on reasonable voltage / temps.

    New mobo/cpu and fresh windows did the trick.

    it lives.png
     
  6. cybereality

    cybereality [H]ardness Supreme

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    Great news! Alive at last.

    How do you like the 3600X? I got one as well and it seems like a nice kit.
     
  7. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    quite high voltage on that cpu 1.4v
     
  8. russnuck

    russnuck Gawd

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    Ya, not sure what is up with that. Everything is stock in the bios.
     
  9. russnuck

    russnuck Gawd

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    Faster than the outgoing 1700x, and memory overclocked via xmp profile in one click. Less power consumed. It's good enough for what I do. I bought a cheap x570, so if I want to swap out next gen.
     
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  10. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    i'd set it to manual, but if you don't mind then ;)
     
  11. russnuck

    russnuck Gawd

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    Maybe next steps, just making sure everything is stable at the moment. As for the Radeon VII, think I am going to stick to stock speeds @970-990mv. It is quiet under water and has enough performance to where I am happy with it given how much I ended up paying for it out of pocket in the end.

    Decided to pull up F@H, pulling down ~1.1M ppd @ 990mv.

    (y)
     
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  12. Algrim

    Algrim [H]ard|Gawd

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    Head over to the AMD Processors sub-forum where people are sharing what they're doing about it.
     
  13. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    waterblock installed

    <palatine laugh>
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    1h overclocked stress | prior this was hitting 110-115'C jT, and around 90'C core. (only 2 low rpm fans, 480 + 240 rads)
    (80-84'F ambient, AC is dying when its over 100'F outside)


    2GHz easy peasy
     
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  14. extide

    extide 2[H]4U

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    Nice, those are really good results. I want to shoot for 2050Mhz when I put my block on. I want to see it maintain >2000Mhz clocks in games
     
  15. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    check this out

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    This card is definitly oc king. I can push it to 2300MHz core, (tho voltage gets high there.) 1.4mV
     
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  16. cybereality

    cybereality [H]ardness Supreme

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    That's pretty nice. I got to 2GHz on stock air cooler, but it wasn't very stable.
     
  17. Rockenrooster

    Rockenrooster Limp Gawd

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    Holy Balls!!!
     
  18. extide

    extide 2[H]4U

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    Wow, I'd love to see one of these (or a Navi card) on LN2. Vega 20/Navi seem to overclock very well indeed.
     
  19. Amiteriver

    Amiteriver [H]Lite

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    Hi all just logged in to see if anyone was having issues with the last couple of driver updates. Mine has been doing a lot of driver resets. so dropped back to 10.5.2 seems to be doing mo better in the last few hours.
    Saw some temperature post so I thought I would throw mine in at idle - EK waterblock . used some thermal pads and compound around the GPU
     

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  20. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    why this?

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    These are just smd's;
     
  21. THUMPer

    THUMPer 2[H]4U

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    dont put those there lol
     
  22. Amiteriver

    Amiteriver [H]Lite

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    Just a wild guess - SMD I will have to look that up.
    seems to have improved temps from the first time I set the block ))
     
  23. THUMPer

    THUMPer 2[H]4U

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    There are other reasons temps improved, not because of that though.
     
  24. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    well he's lucky he had non-conductive thermal compound. At least that much
     
  25. Amiteriver

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    Not my first rodeo - fingernail polish - have done cooling peltier plate and phase change ))
     
  26. Captindecisive

    Captindecisive Limp Gawd

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    Been working with mine a bit lately, doing a loop change and will be playing a bit more. Running an R VII with an EK block currently on an XSPC EX360 rad with 3x Nocuta NF-A12x25's with an EK 3.2 DDC pump and have been running 2000/1200 @ 1060mv with junction temps maxing out around 80-83c. Adding a second 360mm rad (XSPC TX360) to throw a block on the 3600X and play around some more with the VII.
     
  27. ccityinstaller

    ccityinstaller [H]ardness Supreme

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    I decided to sell mine...I really love the 5700XT and since I can do 2.2Ghz on air, I have no doubt it will be just as fast (hopefully faster) on water. The price they are fetching on ebay along with a 50% coupon made it worth it. VEGA was a misunderstood uarch, and I will miss it!
     
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  28. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    In my terms, i'll keep my radeon vii with 16GB vram until i can grab 24-32GB card.
    :)

    // I wonder what are the limits of 5700xt, i assume its around 2400MHz on good water.
     
  29. Dayaks

    Dayaks [H]ardness Supreme

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    On my Radeon VII going nuts with the paste around the edge of the die helped temps. “junction temp” is the highest temp of 80+ sensors. I wouldn’t have used the thermal pad though.... I’d be worried about that causing standoff or extra pressure on certain parts.

    Others reported similar, that relatively unusually high amounts of thermal paste helped. Personally I was aiming to make sure there was heat transfer all over, you’re right the smds don’t need it lol.
     
  30. ccityinstaller

    ccityinstaller [H]ardness Supreme

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    The 5700xt is faster, especially when clocked at 2+GHz, and this is without a ram OC (can't discuss that at this time) with way less power usage.

    I can say that 2.2Ghz on air is stable though
     
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  31. Dayaks

    Dayaks [H]ardness Supreme

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    You can OC the VII too. VII is still faster OC to OC but obviously the 5700xt is a way better buy.
     
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  32. harmattan

    harmattan [H]ardness Supreme

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    Yea, VII will still (barely) outpace a 5700 xt even at 2.2ghz. However, as you say, VII OCs as well (mine goes to 1900mhz/1110mhz stable at stock vcore). Both cards redlined, you're still looking at a 7-8% performance advantage on the VII.

    VII does claw back more of a performance advantage in a few games at extreme resolutions and IQ with it's additional 8GB and higher mem bandwidth, but is that worth $250+? -- No sir!
     
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  33. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    i've been stuck on fury-x for ages; Additional 8GB can make all the difference. :) // sure for gaming not that much, but for 3dsmax/vue it makes difference.
     
  34. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge [H]ardForum Junkie

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    And that's where the VII is still a godsdamned steal!
     
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  35. harmattan

    harmattan [H]ardness Supreme

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    VII is certainly a steal for content creation/modeling.

    I did have a few weeks when I had my 2080 and VII to make some direct gaming comparisons. For 80% of games at 4k/highest IQ, the performance was equal for all intents. For those other 20% (Kingdom Come, Final Fantasy XV, and games I was using with high-res texture packs come to mind), there was a significant difference in FPS.
     
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  36. cyklondx

    cyklondx Limp Gawd

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    have we spoken about rocm (ML - Machine Learning)?
    Its a monster once you get your project working. -- Sure matrix multiplication is better on NV but thats the only case, in rest of the workload vii kills. vram makes hell of a difference for neural net upscaling or colorizing old movies.
     
  37. Amiteriver

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    Just wish I had done all four sides - The pads were to level up to the waterblock so it would make contact. EK makes some nice pads over stock amd stuff did a simple heating pad test with my trusty laser temp gun.

    This was the second time I set the block and it helped junction temps that's all I really know. Plus -- as of today yes I would buy the cheaper card >
     
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  38. thesmokingman

    thesmokingman [H]ardness Supreme

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    I just got one open box from MC for pretty cheap. I'm glad I was able to score one before they get scarce.
     
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  39. cybereality

    cybereality [H]ardness Supreme

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    It's a good card.

    I ended up giving the Radeon VII rig to my brother. Trying to sell/donate some of my extra computers since I had too many. He's happy with it.
     
  40. extide

    extide 2[H]4U

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    Finally got around to properly overclocking my card under water in the full new build. My GPU seems to take a bit more voltage than most, requiring 1209mV at 2101Mhz (which maintains ~2050Mhz in games) -- stock was 1117mV. I also can't seem to do 1200Mhz HBM -- I get artifacts in windows almost immediately -- even at idle temps of like 26C for memory!

    Anyways I am getting 10,242 in Timespy, and 24,820 in Firestrike. Seem some people get quite a bit higher with 1200Mhz HBM. It is surprising that HBM clocks matter that much -- surely the card can't really need that much B/W and it must be memory latency improvements with higher clocks..? (+200Mhz on HBM clocks adds roughly as much b/w as a RX 580 has in total!)
     
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