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By the time you read the reviews, it will be sold out!
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By the time you read the reviews, it will be sold out!
I think op IS 100% CORRECT!! Buy it asap it goes online and then just return it if your not happy.....We already know it be about 25% faster than a vega64 and has twice the ram. Shit read the review while your waiting on the dam package to come
Let me spoil the reviews for you:
It is faster than the 2080 in DX12 and vulkan titles by 5-10%.
It is slower than the 2080 in DX11/OGL titles by about 5-10%.
It pulls over 300w of power from the wall.
It is not that loud but it runs really hot.
It can't overclock very well.
well you should be able to resell it for amount paid since like always all stores will sell out ......i have sold stuff here in 30 min time of making a fs threadThe country i live in doesn't have the option to return something if i change my mind. If it's faulty then yes that's not a problem. We have laws that are better than maufaturers warranties. But not simply because we are unhappy with a product.
Yeah there is some truth to that if it is really sold out then you can even ask more for itwell you should be able to resell it for amount paid since like always all stores will sell out ......i have sold stuff here in 30 min time of making a fs thread
The Radeon 7 might hold some value after a year or longer due to the compute side of things if something on the gaming side comes along that is interesting...I don't think you will be far off there. Although isn't the 2080 doing quite well in DX12 and Vulkan these days.
Let me spoil the reviews for you:
It is faster than the 2080 in DX12 and vulkan titles by 5-10%.
It is slower than the 2080 in DX11/OGL titles by about 5-10%.
It pulls over 300w of power from the wall.
It is not that loud but it runs really hot.
It can't overclock very well.
Let me spoil the reviews for you:
It is faster than the 2080 in DX12 and vulkan titles by 5-10%.
It is slower than the 2080 in DX11/OGL titles by about 5-10%.
It pulls over 300w of power from the wall.
It is not that loud but it runs really hot.
It can't overclock very well.
When are the cards supposed to be available?
edit: I mean like, very specifically
While most of that is likely true, the 300w thing is likely going to be able to be addressed just like V56/V64 through undervolting. I was able to eek about 15% increase in perf on my V56 by flashing a V64 bios, then kept within a 12-13% increase by undervolting and hitting (card only) wattage of ~135-160w (Destiny 2 @ 120-140fps) 170-180w (FF XV @ 80-100fps) and a similar 170-180w (3DMark benchmarks) when it was pulling 210-220+W with the stock V56 bios and settings. While it's 7nm, it's still Vega and will likely (hopefully) be able to take advantage of it similarly, drop 100MHz and some voltage off the GPU and add 100MHz to the memory with a small drop in voltage to keep performance nearly the same with a nice drop in power usage and temps.
It'll be fun to play with at the very least and see if they respond well in the same way old Vega did with this type of tinkering/tweaking.
As Pieter said, could be interesting if they take advantage of compute more; but the same can be said for DLSS for nVidia, it's really promising if it gets the attention it needs.
Let me spoil the reviews for you:
It is faster than the 2080 in DX12 and vulkan titles by 5-10%.
It is slower than the 2080 in DX11/OGL titles by about 5-10%.
It pulls over 300w of power from the wall.
It is not that loud but it runs really hot.
It can't overclock very well.
This is getting a bit easy isn't it?
We can certainly hope for better than average, but I think you nailed AMD's average pretty well there.
Not waiting till 2020 for a decent navi plus it's still damn GCN.wait for Navi...nothing to see with the Radeon VII
wait for Navi...nothing to see with the Radeon VII
Especially pricing the same as 2080 should be a big enough clue for a lot of folks. At least this time, AMD has a card that can do 4k gaming.It's getting depressingly easy....
Not waiting till 2020 for a decent navi plus it's still damn GCN.
Not waiting till 2020 for a decent navi plus it's still damn GCN.
wait for Navi...nothing to see with the Radeon VII
While most of that is likely true, the 300w thing is likely going to be able to be addressed just like V56/V64 through undervolting. I was able to eek about 15% increase in perf on my V56 by flashing a V64 bios, then kept within a 12-13% increase by undervolting and hitting (card only) wattage of ~135-160w (Destiny 2 @ 120-140fps) 170-180w (FF XV @ 80-100fps) and a similar 170-180w (3DMark benchmarks) when it was pulling 210-220+W with the stock V56 bios and settings. While it's 7nm, it's still Vega and will likely (hopefully) be able to take advantage of it similarly, drop 100MHz and some voltage off the GPU and add 100MHz to the memory with a small drop in voltage to keep performance nearly the same with a nice drop in power usage and temps.
It'll be fun to play with at the very least and see if they respond well in the same way old Vega did with this type of tinkering/tweaking.
As Pieter said, could be interesting if they take advantage of compute more; but the same can be said for DLSS for nVidia, it's really promising if it gets the attention it needs.
sounds like the Radeon 7 will be on par with the RTX 2080 with no RT or DLSS features and around the same price point...I don't see why anyone would get the Radeon 7 over the 2080
So you can not run ray tracing on the single game it supports or have access to DLSS which how many games _now_ support? But wait I heard that a benchmark out there now supports DLSS , guessing you can run that in a loop to satisfy yourself.
Maybe it is time for:
#waitfor_Ray_Tracing
#waitfor_DLSS
So you can not run ray tracing on the single game it supports or have access to DLSS which how many games _now_ support? But wait I heard that a benchmark out there now supports DLSS , guessing you can run that in a loop to satisfy yourself.
Maybe it is time for:
#waitfor_Ray_Tracing
#waitfor_DLSS
the $700 price is my main issue with the new Radeon...if HBM2 is so expensive then what will the price be when they actually add RTX/DLSS to these cards?...$900 for mid-range?...what happened to AMD being the value leader?...in the past even though their cards didn't match Nvidia's high end offerings they would always compete with price...now we have AMD still not matching Nvidia yet charging the same...even though RTX/DLSS is pretty much non-existent, at least the 2000 series has those features on the card to justify the price...and for the record I also think the 2000 series is not worth it and I've been advocating waiting for next gen RTX cards because of the lack of games and early adoption factor of the technology
ray tracing and dlss will be software implemented not added hardware to support it
and the price is still competitive.. MSRP is 100 dollars less than the 2080 and trades blows with it
if anything bitch at nvidia for their ridiculous pricing allowing AMD to price radeon 7 where it is. if the 2080 was 700 they'd of most likely priced it at 600 to make sure it sold.
Well that is the same website which championed the Nvidia required cons that the product does not have CUDA cores .Reviews are flowing. TPU pretty much gave it a T-PU review. Was pretty brutal on the numbers. Did not get any award from them at all.