gerardfraser
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Also a RTX 3080 get 20's FPS with DLSS off @ 4K in Control PC game.
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depends on the game and the review, try and broaden your focus from a single benchmark.Also a RTX 3080 get 20's FPS with DLSS off @ 4K in Control PC game.
So Nvidia wins fake 4k vs AMD real 4k. OMG, call me shocked...DLSS is in hardware so there is no performance hit. This is very much expected and a pointless exersize as everyone knows AMD doesn't have DLSS yet. Yes the 4k performance is a bit disappointing but let's wait for the 6900xt and see what that brings to 4k.
yeah, not like scaling has anything to do with framerates. : DSo Nvidia wins fake 4k vs AMD real 4k. OMG, call me shocked...
Just saw this on Gamer's Nexus review of the RX 6800 XT. The showed a Control benchmark at 4K between Nvidia cards w/ DLSS vs. the 6800 XT without DLSS.
One word.... oof.
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It'll be interesting to see AMD's answer to DLSS.
OK lets get this straight here. You quoted a guy ,fellow Canadian I think I recognize the name.depends on the game and the review, try and broaden your focus from a single benchmark.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_rx_6800_xt_review,11.html
Superresolution is a stop-gap. Not AMD's true answer to DLSS. Guess I am laughing WITH you.OK lets get this straight here. You quoted a guy ,fellow Canadian I think I recognize the name.
With DLSS on RTX 3080 gets this many FPS and on AMD 6800XT gets this many FPS with DLSS off or nothing equivalent to DLSS ,then he goes one word oof. (bad thing implied)
Then you said "interesting to see AMD's answer to DLSS" which should be called (Super Resolution)like you do not know
Then I said lol RTX 3080 gets 20' FPS with DLSS off in 4k.
Then you said ,I am finding it very hard to type without laughing here,you then suggest to me "try and broaden your focus from a single benchmark."
You just can not make this stuff up, fuck I find that funny. I have a RTX 3080 and I went to buy a AMD 6800XT but line ups were too long.I have not changed my mind on AMD 6800XT but I am now focused on Red Devil AMD 6800XT
Congrats to all 5 people that get one tomorrow!
I don’t care if it’s running at 640x480 as long as it looks almost exactly the same.So Nvidia wins fake 4k vs AMD real 4k. OMG, call me shocked...
If it's lossless, I don't care. Considering its lossy, I'm uninterested.I don’t care if it’s running at 640x480 as long as it looks almost exactly the same.
Have you actually used it? I haven’t gone pixel peeping, but it looks good to me at 4K in Cod Cold War.If it's lossless, I don't care. Considering its lossy, I'm uninterested.
Not enabled for the 1080ti and I didn't land a 3080 / 3090 at launch + 3 weeks after. At this point I don't see a reason to spend the money on the 3090 and the 3080 is still vapor, so I won't have the option to try DLSS any time soon.Have you actually used it? I haven’t gone pixel peeping, but it looks good to me at 4K in Cod Cold War.
Honestly I dont think the 16gb will matter if you arent on 4k and 4k performance on the 6800 XT isnt as good as the 3080. I just dont see 1440p using up more than 10gb VRAM. I really wanted the RX 6000 series to be my next card but the 4k performance just isn't there compared to the rtx 3000 series.Any theories on which will likely hold up better in 5-8 years' time? -- 6800XT or 3080? That 16GB sounds like good future proofing on paper, and AMD already announced they are working on their own DLSS alternative - which will hopefully be activated on the 6000 series, at least?
Will this hold true for titles some years in the future at 1440p? I would think we can expect texture sizes to continue to grow thus requiring more memory, but maybe you mean 1440p has a relative ceiling we've already hit?Honestly I dont think the 16gb will matter if you arent on 4k and 4k performance on the 6800 XT isnt as good as the 3080. I just dont see 1440p using up more than 10gb VRAM. I really wanted the RX 6000 series to be my next card but the 4k performance just isn't there compared to the rtx 3000 series.
Last few vram usage comparisons I saw see 1440p at maybe 5-6gb max. I don’t think we will see a doubling of vram usage for 1440p and definitely not going to the 16gb mark. For reference the 4K vram usage in most games are about 8gb and that’s more than 2x more pixels.Will this hold true for titles some years in the future at 1440p? I would think we can expect texture sizes to continue to grow thus requiring more memory, but maybe you mean 1440p has a relative ceiling we've already hit?
(I've been out of the game for 10 years now)
You and me both, dude. I tried my best but couldn't get one ordered this morning. Hopefully I'll be able to nab one by the end of January. I need a new space heater.me really wants. me really wont get for a while because of availability.
Then a 3090 is your best betI need a new space heater.
Thank you Dr. Summary. What do you base the above comment on besides just grabbing it out of ur ass?But this looks to be even WORSE PAPER LAUNCH than Nvidia. UGGHH!!
LOL Watch on Youtube or ANY Tech Channel! It's OBVOUS nobody can buy these EFFING cards! Newegg OOS instantly! MicroCenter, people wait in line overnight and come out with a 3080 or 3090 instead of a 6000 series GPU. Get your head out of the SAND!!Thank you Dr. Summary. What do you base the above comment on besides just grabbing it out of ur ass?
LOL Watch on Youtube or ANY Tech Channel! It's OBVOUS nobody can buy these EFFING cards! Newegg OOS instantly! MicroCenter, people wait in line overnight and come out with a 3080 or 3090 instead of a 6000 series GPU. Get your head out of the SAND!!
So how much does AMD pay you to SHILL? It's been reported worldwide that AMD stock was SHIT on launch day.When demand exceeds supply, your internet mimes cannot quantify the amount of cards available at launch as compared to Nvidia or anything else for that matter. Get a grip.
So how much does AMD pay you to SHILL? It's been reported worldwide that AMD stock was SHIT on launch day.
Seriously your dogged fandom makes you look irrational in this instance. There's no Defending AMD for their FAILURE to LAUNCH!!
You and I must have not read the same group of reviews.The performance numbers came out...
-6800 XT is slightly slower than the 3080 but within 6% overall. Fine.
-The 6800 is not that much faster than the 3070 to justify the $80 price increase. Awkward!
-Overall the prize is the 6800XT which made a huge performance jump over the 5700XT but doesn't quite top the 3080, especially not in 4k gaming where it falls behind despite having 6GB more VRAM. #Does VRAM actually matter?
Seriously, I think people read and believe whatever their mind comes up with. Comfirmation bias is a beezy.You and I must have not read the same group of reviews.
I don't think its overpriced. If you are doing strictly 1440p gaming and dont care about RT its the better and cheaper option. If you are doing 4k then the 3080 is slightly better.This kind of confirms my thoughts on RDNA 2, it's over priced for what it's brining to the table. It basically matches the 3080 in terms of raster performance, but falls way behind in terms of ray tracing, DLSS, etc. The feature set makes the 3080 a far more compelling product. The 6800 is basically in no mans land (the price makes no sense at all) it should really be 500 bucks. I'm probably going to grab a 3060 ti when it comes out, just managed to snag a 5800x.
This kind of confirms my thoughts on RDNA 2, it's over priced for what it's brining to the table. It basically matches the 3080 in terms of raster performance, but falls way behind in terms of ray tracing, DLSS, etc. The feature set makes the 3080 a far more compelling product. The 6800 is basically in no mans land (the price makes no sense at all) it should really be 500 bucks. I'm probably going to grab a 3060 ti when it comes out, just managed to snag a 5800x.
Real World Results: People who camped overnight at Microcenter aren't even getting the 6800XT.
There's no need to defend the worst PAPER LAUNCH since the 3000 series. Which was pretty damn terrible. AMD has managed to do WORSE!
5150Joker Which is interesting because on the 17th at about 10PM MDT time they had 3 models , 2 showed back ordered while 1 showed in stock, I got it into my cart but upon signing in, it was then gone, so either their web team is not too smart... (could be bcause their "in stock" filter always shows items not in stock, or they did sell the few they had, accidentally..early..I just saw this on Twitter:
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Real World Results: People who camped overnight at Microcenter aren't even getting the 6800XT.
There's no need to defend the worst PAPER LAUNCH since the 3000 series. Which was pretty damn terrible. AMD has managed to do WORSE!
The difference is you will see more product in retail every day with AIB custom cards hitting on the 25th and more and more coming to market through December. I figure by the end of Q4 AMD will have sold between 5 to 7 times more 6800s than 3080s.
Maybe he asked that guy Kyle, who knows lots of people in the industry? Just throwing it out there.......What’s your source for the numbers? How do you know how many 3080s have been sold?
I have been in this industry for about 25 years and have hundreds of industry contacts that I still talk to. Guys talk, you hear things.What’s your source for the numbers? How do you know how many 3080s have been sold?