SixFootDuo
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Awaiting official results from HardOCP along with pricing
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seems like certain people don't want to believe that AMD has a card that is potentially this good...so any benchmarks or leaks get dismissed...the XS review seemed legit...Kyle even hinted that the 290X was faster then a Titan in an earlier thread...some Nvidia folks are just in denial...slamming Mantle, slamming the new cards etc...I guess October 15th will be a sad day for some but a good day for most
AMD is late to the party if they don't exceed 780 performance by 20% or more since Nvidia likely already has a product near ready to release that is even faster. AMD is playing catch-up at this point, not vice versa.
Kyle did not hint that the 290 was faster than the Titan, he clearly said...AMD sez...
you clearly didn't get the hint...Kyle was saying that the 290X was faster but couldn't outright say it because of NDA etc
Nvidia has a new single card ready for release soon?...first I've heard of it...so you're admitting that the 290X will be cheaper and faster but are counting on a new dual GPU card from Nvidia to take back the crown by maybe 10% and call that a win for Nvidia?
What are you talking about? Lets get this straight now, just go ahead and leave Titan out of the conversation because no one is even talking about Titan since the 780 was released nor should they. I don't think anyone believes that the 290x isn't going to be competitive with the 780, it may even be a few percent faster and I fully expect it to be cheaper than the current 780 so I'm not in denial about anything however you need to keep in mind, AMD is late to the party if they don't exceed 780 performance by 20% or more since Nvidia likely already has a product near ready to release that is even faster. AMD is playing catch-up at this point, not vice versa.
Kyle did not hint that the 290 was faster than the Titan, he clearly said...AMD sez...
you clearly didn't get the hint...Kyle was saying that the 290X was faster but couldn't outright say it because of NDA etc
Nvidia has a new single card ready for release soon?...first I've heard of it...so you're admitting that the 290X will be cheaper and faster but are counting on a new dual GPU card from Nvidia to take back the crown by maybe 10% and call that a win for Nvidia?
AMD already has a single card (7990) more than 20% faster than a 780 (or Titan), clearly nvidia are the ones playing catch up.
you clearly didn't get the hint...Kyle was saying that the 290X was faster but couldn't outright say it because of NDA etc
He said Nvidia "likely" has a product ready for release. Implying probably that with all the time in between releases, they could have concocted something as a suddent response for the new Radeons. Blah, blah, blah. All I know is that more GPU's at competitive performance levels and prices = more choice for me in the end.
I think the new 800 XT will be the fastest ever.
Are you seriously comparing a dual GPU solution to a single GPU solution right now? Do you think Nvidia gives a rat's ass about the 7990 which has driver issues that cripple the card in many scenarios and games? Do you honestly think if Nvidia thought the 7990 were a real threat to their business they wouldn't have a dual GPU solution on deck to compete with it? Lets not forget that the 690 was well before the 7990, so yea AMD is behind and still playing catch-up.
Doesnt matter if its dual GPU, its still a single card.
I, along with many other thousands of people have no or minimal issues with crossfire.
The 690 is slower than a 7990, again until nvidia has something faster than a 7990 they are technically playing catch up.
We need no more comments from you, fanboy.
I think it would be silly to think Nvidia doesn't have a next gen product practically ready or even a new dual GPU solution designed if they wanted to go that route. It all comes down to what makes financial sense. Its not as if Nvidia doesn't have the ability or resources to do whatever they want, it is and always has been about what makes financial sense at the time.
The title of the Kyle's thread is called "AMD sez", he did not imply anything of it being faster, it was amd.you clearly didn't get the hint...Kyle was saying that the 290X was faster but couldn't outright say it because of NDA etc
I am simply relating what a trusted source inside AMD communicated to me. This is of course exciting to hear, but as always, we will fully evaluate whatever new technology is at hand in the near future.
AMD already has a single card (7990) more than 20% faster than a 780 (or Titan), clearly nvidia are the ones playing catch up.
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Dual gpu cards are not comparable to single ones, sorry.
1. It's crossfired 7970's on one pcb, the other cards are single gpu cards.Yes they can, since they both serve the same function.
The title of the Kyle's thread is called "AMD sez", he did not imply anything of it being faster, it was amd.
Kyle later posted this in that same thread
Yes they can, since they both serve the same function.
Thats like saying a dual processor system cannot be compared to a single procesor system
Or wait... thats like saying dual channel memory cannot be compared to single channel memory.
See how wrong you are?
you still don't get it...if Kyle has a TRUSTED source within AMD do you think it's just some regular Joe Marketing rep?...key word- trusted...translation- you can bank on it...you don't get the hint of Kyle potentially starting a useless thread titled 'AMD sez' unless there was much more behind it
Most reasonable people, do expect this card to be fantastic. But I would rather wait for official results.
What's in dispute, is the performance delta between the Titan (which isn't currently the fastest GPU) and the 290X... A difference of a few percent still makes the phrase "the 290X is faster than the titan" accurate. It does not guarantee it's faster than the highest end 780s, nor a speed increase worthy of upgrade.
Sure, but faster than the titan may simply put it on par with many of the top end 780s on the market, such as the HOF or Lightning, both with 1300+mhz clocks.
"Faster" doesn't mean anything concrete.
GTX 690 trades blows with the 7990, so no, there's no catch-up going on.AMD already has a single card (7990) more than 20% faster than a 780 (or Titan), clearly nvidia are the ones playing catch up.
you still don't get it...if Kyle has a TRUSTED source within AMD do you think it's just some regular Joe Marketing rep?...key word- trusted...translation- you can bank on it...you don't get the hint of Kyle potentially starting a useless thread titled 'AMD sez' unless there was much more behind it
Kyle also runs a popular website and loves to stir the pot to keep people coming to this website. Agree? I'm not debating whether AMD's new P90x series will be competitive with the 780, I'm 100% certain it will be, I'm simply saying you're reading too much into Kyle's statement and assuming simply because you want it to be that way. Its the natural progression of new generation of cards for one to b faster than the other by a small margin especially when competing products aren't released at the exact same time. AMD knows full well how much performance they need out of their product to match and exceed the 780, even if its only by a small margin, but the point is that they're still playing catch-up to Nvidia. Nvidia has the fastest single GPU card for the last year now, its taken this long just for AMD to catch-up and exceed that performance. Don't believe for a minute that Nvidia has been sitting idle during this time. Nvidia may not want to release a new product yet, it really depends on what AMD is bringing to the table, its all about what makes financial sense, but they can certainly lower prices on the 780 and be very competitive again with AMD's new products which is exactly what will happen. If you're an AMD fan, that's great, you're getting new hardware to play with, but let's not go overboard and pretend this is the death nail for Nvidia. That's absurd.
Kyle also runs a popular website and loves to stir the pot to keep people coming to this website. Agree? I'm not debating whether AMD's new P90x series will be competitive with the 780, I'm 100% certain it will be, I'm simply saying you're reading too much into Kyle's statement and assuming simply because you want it to be that way. Its the natural progression of new generation of cards for one to b faster than the other by a small margin especially when competing products aren't released at the exact same time. AMD knows full well how much performance they need out of their product to match and exceed the 780, even if its only by a small margin, but the point is that they're still playing catch-up to Nvidia. Nvidia has the fastest single GPU card for the last year now, its taken this long just for AMD to catch-up and exceed that performance. Don't believe for a minute that Nvidia has been sitting idle during this time. Nvidia may not want to release a new product yet, it really depends on what AMD is bringing to the table, its all about what makes financial sense, but they can certainly lower prices on the 780 and be very competitive again with AMD's new products which is exactly what will happen. If you're an AMD fan, that's great, you're getting new hardware to play with, but let's not go overboard and pretend this is the death nail for Nvidia. That's absurd.
Dual gpu cards are not comparable to single ones, sorry.
They are fairly different beastsWho says you can't compare the 2 cards? ... You? Are you the one making rules around this place now?