Question about XP via Bootcamp

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If you load XP onto a macbook pro via bootcamp, will it be able to run all windows applications as if they were running on a PC?

In particular Visual C++?
 
Boot camp is still in its beta stage.

Theoretically you should be able to run any Windows app on XP like any other Wintel computer.
 
all bootcamp is, is bios emulation in an efi bootloader.

theres no mysterious anything. the hardware inside intel macs are just a pc, a very nicely designed astetically pleasing pc.

once windows is loaded, when its booted into windows, its no different than any pc you could buy off the shelf as far as the operating system is concerned. none zip nada. no difference.

you should feel safe an secure knowing you can run windows.

that icky feeling you get from coding in c++ rather than c? that i cant help ya with.
 
emailthatguy said:
all bootcamp is, is bios emulation in an efi bootloader.

theres no mysterious anything. the hardware inside intel macs are just a pc, a very nicely designed astetically pleasing pc.

once windows is loaded, when its booted into windows, its no different than any pc you could buy off the shelf as far as the operating system is concerned. none zip nada. no difference.

you should feel safe an secure knowing you can run windows.

that icky feeling you get from coding in c++ rather than c? that i cant help ya with.
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As emailthatguy says boot camp doesnt do much. It simply partitions your disc for you. (The bios support is added in the firmware update not bootcamp itself )

From the moment it gets into windows its exactly like any other windows machines of a similiar spec.

Only issues I've had are some of the drivers for the sound card arent great. (with the apple ones you only get headphone output with the speakers still on) Lack of 2nd mouse button and delete button on macbook pro is a pain but can be got around.

I actually took my macbook pro to a lan last weekend and it was great. Far easier than taking my pc.
 
gordy_hand, if the firmware update allows BIOS support, could u theoretically just put in a Windows XP cd and the setup would run ona a normal PC, without the need of the Boot Camp software?
 
Boot camp is the software the preps the machine for XP. After that you don't run it again.
 
emailthatguy said:
that icky feeling you get from coding in c++ rather than c? that i cant help ya with.
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Why do you say that? Granted I've only used C up until now but for my final year project it's a toss up between C++ and Java, both OOP languages so I pciked C++, not a good choice? It's probably going to be for an image anaylsis system.
 
pincho said:
gordy_hand, if the firmware update allows BIOS support, could u theoretically just put in a Windows XP cd and the setup would run ona a normal PC, without the need of the Boot Camp software?
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I'm not sure on this but yes you probably could, all boot camp does is partition the drive and allow you to boot of the cd really. It does give you some other options like choose which drive you boot off by default (os X or windows), but most of the changes are done via the firmware update.
 
Caution with Boot Camp. A lot of users have run into a problem where they can't select Mac OS X when rebooting from Windows. A command line fix does the trick, but can be a pita if you aren't comfortable with the command line.
Oh, and Apple provides not one ounce of support for this BETA product.
I think the idea is great and will probably pursue this endeavor once the bigs have been fixed and Boot Camp is no longer in Beta.
 
benzino_86 said:
Caution with Boot Camp. A lot of users have run into a problem where they can't select Mac OS X when rebooting from Windows. A command line fix does the trick, but can be a pita if you aren't comfortable with the command line.
Oh, and Apple provides not one ounce of support for this BETA product.
I think the idea is great and will probably pursue this endeavor once the bigs have been fixed and Boot Camp is no longer in Beta.
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There have been 1000's of sucessful installs and only a couple of issues so I wouldnt lose any sleep over it.

As long as you back up os x you will be fine.
 
Does Bootcamp play like an emulated OS? I still have nightmares from using Microsoft Virtual PC on my G5 a while back. It felt like my brain was lagging several seconds behind the rest of the world.
 
Thrash said:
Does Bootcamp play like an emulated OS? I still have nightmares from using Microsoft Virtual PC on my G5 a while back. It felt like my brain was lagging several seconds behind the rest of the world.
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try reading one of the multiple posts above that states its running at native speeds as its native!
 
Think about it this way: The MacIntel is Windows Native. They technically had to change OSX to run properly on the WinTel hardware. SO since Windows runs natively, you will have no problems with it on your MacBook Pro. I have seen it first hand and it runs FLAWLESSLY. I actually saw someone playing Q4 at native res with all the eye candy on, and it never missed a beat. :eek:
 
ok plain english for those that STILL dont get it

your intel mac

its a pc

no... i dont care if its all white or all silver

i dont care if it has an apple logo

its still just a pc now, built by intel

its got an intel chipset just like any other pc

its got a cpu just like any other intel pc.

windows is made for pc's

when apple made the switchover, they compiled, optimized and rewrote mac osx to run on pc's

but not just any pc

only apple's pc's

they call them mac's, macbook pro, mac mini, and imac





when you install windows on your mac via bootcamp its just like any other pc that has the same hardware. it runs it natively like its supposed to.


get it?
 
emailthatguy said:
ok plain english for those that STILL dont get it

your intel mac

its a pc

no... i dont care if its all white or all silver

i dont care if it has an apple logo

its still just a pc now, built by intel

its got an intel chipset just like any other pc

its got a cpu just like any other intel pc.

windows is made for pc's

when apple made the switchover, they compiled, optimized and rewrote mac osx to run on pc's

but not just any pc

only apple's pc's

they call them mac's, macbook pro, mac mini, and imac





when you install windows on your mac via bootcamp its just like any other pc that has the same hardware. it runs it natively like its supposed to.


get it?
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lol people have got to understand it now :p
 
so wait, does this mean i can play cs on it or not

/sarcasm
 
emailthatguy said:
its got an intel chipset just like any other pc
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ANY other PC? so my A64 3700+ rig and my x2 4400+ rigs have Intel chipsets???? *LOL* just picking on your choice of the words "any other pc"..... Via. ATI, nVidia, SiS, etc. all make chipsets for Intel CPUs also......
 
i can't figure out how to right click when in XP using the trackpad....this is a bitch.
 
only way to do it eh.....was hoping the mac drivers had something in there for that, yet no luck.....external it is.
 
When running Windows on a Mac, does that make it as unstable as regular Windows (BSOD's, spyware, etc. etc.)?

I would assume the answer is yes, but I just want confirmation on that.
 
it was running just fine for me as always, then under my computer I tried to access the isight camera and got a BSOD, reboot though, and ran just fine.
 
boasist said:
i can't figure out how to right click when in XP using the trackpad....this is a bitch.
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I loaded it on my macbook this is the first mac i ever used. But anyways to right click in windows hold Ctrl then just click.
 
The18thLetter said:
When running Windows on a Mac, does that make it as unstable as regular Windows (BSOD's, spyware, etc. etc.)?

I would assume the answer is yes, but I just want confirmation on that.
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Yes, it is no different than any other PC. It has Windows installed, it has the same security holes, viruses, and vulnerabilities if not patched and secured.
 
1 question, with bootcamp when I install XP, I have to search for drivers for the ati video card for windows xp? and then I can play Cs:Source normal?
 
joses0 said:
1 question, with bootcamp when I install XP, I have to search for drivers for the ati video card for windows xp? and then I can play Cs:Source normal?
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no you dont have to search for all the hardware drivers, when you run the bootcamp installer to prep the system one of the first things you do is create a driver disc so you need a blank cdr, after it burns the disk you can create the partition size and then install windows.

I created a FAT partition instead of NTFS so the mac could read/write to the windows drive. Once windows is installed pop in the driver disc you made and it shoud auto run the installation and install the drivers that it currently has. Not all the hardware is supported. Basicaly, you get the drivers for the following

systemboard
video
sound
wireless
wired
keybaord (so eject button should work)
i think blue tooth

I dont think the camera is supported yet.
 
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