M76
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If the epic store wasn't reason enough to give it a hard pass I oppose censorship on principle, no matter how little is changed.
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Why bash epic when it's thanks to them these games are coming to PC in the first place, so millions of non-console gamers can enjoy them.If the epic store wasn't reason enough to give it a hard pass
Blame the governments or ratings boards which pass strict rules regarding entertainment content, not the devs who are forced to follow them. Can't even fault the publishers, as there's countries which you can't even sell your game if you don't meet certain criteria.I oppose censorship on principle, no matter how little is changed.
I know Germany has always been stricter than most countries, even some of the religious ones. Not sure about the rest.Wait- why are games in Europe being censored more than in the US?
It's not epic's doing that these games are coming to PC, this misconception is spreading like wildfire, but I saw zero facts to back it up. The only difference between this and other epic exclusives is that Quantic's games were announced as exclusives to begin with and not changed over later after advertising as steam games.Why bash epic when it's thanks to them these games are coming to PC in the first place, so millions of non-console gamers can enjoy them.
Blame the governments or ratings boards which pass strict rules regarding entertainment content, not the devs who are forced to follow them. Can't even fault the publishers, as there's countries which you can't even sell your game if you don't meet certain criteria.
Uh EU is very heavily censor. Sure they are not prude about nudity like in the states but when it comes to freedom of speech and violence they take a heavy stance on those.Wait- why are games in Europe being censored more than in the US?
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It's not epic's doing that these games are coming to PC, this misconception is spreading like wildfire, but I saw zero facts to back it up. The only difference between this and other epic exclusives is that Quantic's games were announced as exclusives to begin with and not changed over later after advertising as steam games.
And I didn't say it was epic's fault that the game is censored. Well actually when I think about it, it kind of is their fault. They could host a different version of the game just for the bleeding hearts in germany, and give the uncensored version for the rest of the world. It would be really easy to do on a digital distribution platform.
Do you really think it's a coincidence that these games haven't been on pc for nearly 10 years then suddenly just after EGS comes out and offers much higher margins they come to pc as an EGS exclusive?
As for the censoring it's probably the developer not wanting to do the extra work releasing multiple versions, although it could also be Epic for the same reason.
No, it's not coincidence. They are coming to PC because Heavy Rain was originally planned to be released on PC, before Sony bought out the studio. And then late last year if I remember correctly Quantic Dream bought themselves out of the Sony partnership, so they can release their games for PC after all these years. EGS just happened to be skulking around and they went from one xclusivity deal into another. Unfortunate. It wasn't EGS that funded or had the idea to bring these games to PC, and I don't know why people want so desperately to give this "win" to EGS.Do you really think it's a coincidence that these games haven't been on pc for nearly 10 years then suddenly just after EGS comes out and offers much higher margins they come to pc as an EGS exclusive?
As for the censoring it's probably the developer not wanting to do the extra work releasing multiple versions, although it could also be Epic for the same reason.
It probably comes down to not wanting to bother with different versions for different regions so they just give the most neutered one for all. Shows how much they care.Censoring is probably them just being lazy and doing a half effort PC release, or some other legal reason with the different versions.
Interactive story type games certainly have their market, but since 2010 many more action RPGs (like Mass Effect, Witcher) have become popular. While not as story based and not tethered to decision making as much they will have better gameplay than what is essentially a QTE game with an interactive story.
Uh EU is very heavily censor. Sure they are not prude about nudity like in the states but when it comes to freedom of speech and violence they take a heavy stance on those.
That's the first thing I hear about that. Other then certain games in Germany I can't think of anything that has been censored in other countries in Europe.
In the past some countries like Austria got shafted with the German version for some games. But again, that is more to do with laziness. Probably just applied the "German" localized version to that country. Doesn't seem like an issue anymore though. Australia used to be very strict, but that changed a few years back. As for the EU being very heavily censored that is true but a more recent phenomenon and games will likely catch on later if at all.
Germany was always a heavy censor even going back to the olden days. For example the german version of carmageddon had zombies instead of pedestrians and green blood.That's the first thing I hear about that. Other then certain games in Germany I can't think of anything that has been censored in other countries in Europe.
But ever since the EU expanded to most of europe it seems that software publishers can't be bothered to tailor their service to individual countries, they release the same crap for the entire region.
So basically, they ported it, it's prettier, but the story still doesn't make sense?
Bring the Kleenex for some of the scenarios.Detroit: Become Human got a lot of good buzz so I'm interested in trying that...
doesn't even seem like a major upgrade in terms of visuals from the PS4...
YesDoes the PC version work with the an Xbox controller?
Does the PC version work with the an Xbox controller?
Not even waiting the full year? Guess that exclusivity deal wasn't so good for actual sales after all.Steam pages are up. Release date for all three is June 18. Demos for the trio are now available.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/960910/Heavy_Rain/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/960990/Beyond_Two_Souls/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1222140/Detroit_Become_Human/
Heavy Rain is "on time," but I guess they don't want to wait to release all three. We saw that MechWarrior 5 was released on the Microsoft Store 6 months ahead of its supposed one year exclusivity period was up. Maybe sales are not as good for the developers and publishers on Epic as the press has hyped it up to be.Not even waiting the full year? Guess that exclusivity deal wasn't so good for actual sales after all.
Not even waiting the full year? Guess that exclusivity deal wasn't so good for actual sales after all.
I actually can't find any reference to an exclusivity window. I think we all just assumed it would be a year since that seems to be the standard. I know it was explicitly stated that MechWarrior 5 was exclusive to the Epic Games Store for a year.Thought they were keeping it there for 6 months, seems to be the trend like with BL3.
In other news, Metro Exodus game out on GOG today DRM free.
I actually can't find any reference to an exclusivity window. I think we all just assumed it would be a year since that seems to be the standard. I know it was explicitly stated that MechWarrior 5 was exclusive to the Epic Games Store for a year.
Probably was "when sales dry up we'll move it to Steam" type of arrangement.
There might not have even an been an arrangement with EGS, just their own plan.
Get a higher cut on EGS with as many sales as they can, then once sales dry up start selling on Steam and get a lower cut with any audience they missed.
It's basically what every studio has been doing the past 5 years by starting on their own launchers then releasing to Steam later.
Steam pages are up. Release date for all three is June 18. Demos for the trio are now available.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/960910/Heavy_Rain/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/960990/Beyond_Two_Souls/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1222140/Detroit_Become_Human/