I'm considering a PVR card for my system (just a desktop, not building a HTPC), and the PVR-150MCE looks like a good bet. I can get it for a reasonable price, better than I can find the non-MCE edition. I notice that the MCE edition doesnt have a remote (which is fine by me, since I already have an ATi Remote Wonder), but I cant tell if it comes with any tuner software or not. Can someone help me out with this one? If it doesn't, should I spend the extra money to get a PVR-250 (which I can get cheaper than the non-MCE 150), or is there good free Windows TV tuner software available (keep in mind, I'm not making an HTPC, just want to watch/record TV on my desktop). Also, is there really any difference in the 150 vs. 250? Just seems that the 150 uses a newer chipset or something.