PS5 And Xbox Series X Scalpers Are Charging A Big Premium

LukeTbk

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You have to be kidding me. There are some seriously impatient fools out there with money to burn.
That look like false bid to troll scalper like they did on video cards ? (With sometime the original sellers making an even bigger bid on a other fake account on their own item to make the process of reselling it faster)
 

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Just in time for income taxes. Microsoft and other companies know what they're doing.

Struggling with supply issues? You think they can just magically create consoles out of thin air to meet demand caused by the clusterfuck of 2020? The sheer fact that both companies managed to launch new consoles this year is something of a miracle on it's own. We don't need stupid conspiracy theories to explain supply issues.
 

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"While Ebay's unsold listings show people still asking up to $10,000 for the new consoles, the sold listings show most people aren't willing to pay too much more than $1000 for the resold consoles. The fact that people are paying scalpers' inflated prices shows how much demand there is for the next-gen consoles.

It appears Amazon isn't currently allowing third-party sellers to list PS5s for sale, likely to cut down on the kind of price-gouging that's taking place on Ebay. If you want to try your hand at getting a next-gen console without paying an inflated price for it, check out our PS5 buying guide or Xbox Series X and S guide."


https://www.gamespot.com/articles/p...pers-are-charging-a-big-premium/1100-6484472/
Microsoft and Sony should just accept they can't meet initial demand and charge an extra couple hundred bucks, then at least the money can partially go back into the ecosystem.
 

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Microsoft and Sony should just accept they can't meet initial demand and charge an extra couple hundred bucks, then at least the money can partially go back into the ecosystem.
That's not how Capitalism works.
 

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Struggling with supply issues? You think they can just magically create consoles out of thin air to meet demand caused by the clusterfuck of 2020? The sheer fact that both companies managed to launch new consoles this year is something of a miracle on it's own. We don't need stupid conspiracy theories to explain supply issues.
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Microsoft and Sony should just accept they can't meet initial demand and charge an extra couple hundred bucks, then at least the money can partially go back into the ecosystem.
The internet would destroy then over it. You see how fussy both of the were about releasing the price to begin with?
 

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Not surprising at all that there are shortages. Everything has been delayed this year. Usually at work when we’re ordering laptops, servers, whatever, we plan for a 2-3 week lead time. This year I have had to increase that to roughly two months. It makes capacity planning really difficult because now it’s just far enough out that it’s getting harder to predict what needs will be like in a few months.

Millions of people looking for these things, of course there are going to be supply issues.
 

deruberhanyok

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Wait, so a company can ask Amazon not to allow 3rd party sales and they will do it....
Honestly I’m surprised they hadn’t locked it down already. Amazon briefly had their marketplace set up in a way that was friendly to hobbyists, just individuals selling their own books and such. I used to list old PC hardware there along with eBay, etc.

But they started locking it down heavily because of fraud. There wasn’t any vetting of product listings, just like on eBay, but the difference was that you could search for say, a core i7-4770 on Amazon and get a marketplace seller’s listing because it was cheaper than Amazon’s new price. Whereas eBay doesn’t sell stuff directly. But then there was no warranty from most marketplace sellers (there still isn’t), and it also didn’t prevent people from burying listing by creating things that would key in search terms and actually wind up in front of the official part listings.

so they started requiring anyone selling a product of certain brands (like “Intel”) to provide proof of purchase or a reseller authorization letter before they could list “Intel” products - no matter what it was.

Look up Xeon processors on Amazon, for instance, and you’ll see “Xeon blah blah” but the brand name on the product is HP or Dell or some random company name - sellers are of course trying to get around those restrictions by just making up brand names and leaving out the words that would make Amazon block the listing (like “Intel”).

anyways, where I’m going with this is, I’m surprised they weren’t already doing it for Sony or Microsoft products, too. Or if they were and I’m just misunderstanding that they have blocked all third party listings for it, that’s... worrying, I think. Scalpers are assholes, but Amazon’s marketplace was supposed to be open, even to them. Unless that has changed?
 
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Honestly I’m surprised they hadn’t locked it down already. Amazon briefly had their marketplace set up in a way that was friendly to hobbyists, just individuals selling their own books and such. I used to list old PC hardware there along with eBay, etc.

But they started locking it down heavily because of fraud. There wasn’t any vetting of product listings, just like on eBay, but the difference was that you could search for say, a core i7-4770 on Amazon and get a marketplace seller’s listing because it was cheaper than Amazon’s new price. Whereas eBay doesn’t sell stuff directly. But then there was no warranty from most marketplace sellers (there still isn’t), and it also didn’t prevent people from burying listing by creating things that would key in search terms and actually wind up in front of the official part listings.

so they started requiring anyone selling a product of certain brands (like “Intel”) to provide proof of purchase or a reseller authorization letter before they could list “Intel” products - no matter what it was.

Look up Xeon processors on Amazon, for instance, and you’ll see “Xeon blah blah” but the brand name on the product is HP or Dell or some random company name - sellers are of course trying to get around those restrictions by just making up brand names and leaving out the words that would make Amazon block the listing (like “Intel”).

anyways, where I’m going with this is, I’m surprised they weren’t already doing it for Sony or Microsoft products, too. Or if they were and I’m just misunderstanding that they have blocked all third party listings for it, that’s... worrying, I think. Scalpers are assholes, but Amazon’s marketplace was supposed to be open, even to them. Unless that has changed?
I guess my point is that Amazon is blocking third party listings for playstations but are allowing this https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GeForce-...9Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Why cant NVIDIA ask for these sales to be blocked?
 

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My guess? Lots of people want PlayStations, and the market of people who want video cards is considerably smaller, so they (Amazon and/or nvidia) don’t actually care.

Besides, both AMD and nvidia posted guidelines for how to avoid scalpers, so everything is fine, right?
 

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Look up FOMO and how it effects people. It has nothing to do with intelligence or anything like that, simply human nature and something we can’t change. The people buying are still at fault, of course, but it’s not as simple as them being stupid. Or, rather, all of us are “stupid” in some way and fall for this kind of thing from time to time.
Derangel fully aware of what FOMO is, and it does affect intelligence, because FOMO causes people to think irrationally and be stupid :). I have never in my life lined up to buy a product so I could be first in line, or my group of friends to own something and there are many people as well who never have and never will, because they do not see the point in it. Whether it is computer parts, black friday sales, any of those things...
 

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I’m glad I have a real job. Time equals money for me. Not to mention the effort. But for someone who’s time is worth it to them to scalp, congrats.

I seriously spent 30-60 minutes ordering them. And another 5 minutes listing on craigslist and people met me at my work to pick them up.

90 mins max of "work". $1500/1.5, you must have a pretty damn good job to be making $1000/hr after taxes. Let me know where I can sign up.
 

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I seriously spent 30-60 minutes ordering them. And another 5 minutes listing on craigslist and people met me at my work to pick them up.

90 mins max of "work". $1500/1.5, you must have a pretty damn good job to be making $1000/hr after taxes. Let me know where I can sign up.
No risk no reward I guess. Good on you. I wouldn't risk it though. People get shot or robbed over these types of fomo items. I remember seeing horror stories of people getting mugged in parking lots when the PS2 launched.
 

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I seriously spent 30-60 minutes ordering them. And another 5 minutes listing on craigslist and people met me at my work to pick them up.

90 mins max of "work". $1500/1.5, you must have a pretty damn good job to be making $1000/hr after taxes. Let me know where I can sign up.
Your username says enough lol. Sorry for not taking your time table seriously. If it were that easy you’d have a lot more get rich people in the world.

Regardless of rather or not I believe your anecdote, I’m glad it worked out financially for you.
 

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I seriously spent 30-60 minutes ordering them. And another 5 minutes listing on craigslist and people met me at my work to pick them up.

90 mins max of "work". $1500/1.5, you must have a pretty damn good job to be making $1000/hr after taxes. Let me know where I can sign up.
“After taxes”, didn’t realize scalping was tax free income now :ROFLMAO:
 

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Don't hate the player, hate the game

I hate the game and the players for knowingly participating in that dirty game called "scalping".
If people pay the scalpers premium markup they are also fueling the fire so to speak.
I will not pay more then the MSRP and also not buy a new item from an unauthorized seller used yes (to the unauthorized seller part not the MSRP part) as their is probably no warranty left anyway on a used item.
 
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I hate the game and the players for knowingly participating in that dirty game called "scalping".
If people pay the scalpers premium markup they are also fueling the fire so to speak.
I will not pay more then the MSRP and also not buy a new item from an unauthorized seller used yes (to the unauthorized seller part not the MSRP part) as their is probably no warranty left anyway on a used item.

Supply and demand. If there weren't people dumb and desperate enough to pay scalpers' inflated prices, there'd be no scalpers. I don't fault the scalpers for making a buck where they see one to be made.
 

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Supply and demand. If there weren't people dumb and desperate enough to pay scalpers' inflated prices, there'd be no scalpers. I don't fault the scalpers for making a buck where they see one to be made.

Everyone is at fault. Scalpers are at fault for buying things for the sole purpose of selling at inflated prices and depriving customers of a limited product. The people buying are at fault for paying those stupid prices.
 

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Everyone is at fault. Scalpers are at fault for buying things for the sole purpose of selling at inflated prices and depriving customers of a limited product. The people buying are at fault for paying those stupid prices.
Agreed.


It really doesn't bother me much. These are luxury items. Now if people started scalping toilet paper and corn cobs, then I'd have a problem. You ever wiped with a Banana leaf? Its not pretty.
 

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You are a loser that work is no work you are just a low life scammer.



Yep expect the scammer moron part.

Loser? For being smart and making a few bucks with no work. Only an idiot would pass up fast and easy cash. I saw an opportunity and took it.

I think you need to look up the definition of scammer. I didn't scam anyone. I had something for sale and another person willingly bought it fully knowing what they were getting. There was no scam.
 

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Loser? For being smart and making a few bucks with no work. Only an idiot would pass up fast and easy cash. I saw an opportunity and took it.

I think you need to look up the definition of scammer. I didn't scam anyone. I had something for sale and another person willingly bought it fully knowing what they were getting. There was no scam.

Scam is you paid less and are making a profit off of other people for your own personal gain.
Loser is for the making money with no work. Nothing in the world is free so you got free money for no work at all.
I like money as much as the next person but unlike you I have morals, the only idiot is you
 
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