Project: Batman Begins (completed!!!)

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uzor said:
Sort of... In order to bend "towards" the cuts, you have to cut wedges out so you have a gap to close. That's 2x the cutting. Bending away from the cuts, you just need to make a single cut each place you want a joint.


You expect me to think before I cut? I dont think so! :D

I'm not a master of anything you guys so chime in whenever you want, every case is a new lesson.
 

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I'm in agreement about bending towards the cut. That has an extra benefit of providing a stronger joint. When I look at the picture of the final bend, where the beam points straight up, I have to wonder about the strength.

It seems to me that if you cut out on the inside of the bends the entire way through then you gain three advantages:

1: The overall weight is reduced with each piece that is removed.
2: The strength of each joint is increased (the entire piece is only as strong as the weakest weld)
3: There will be far less cleanup to do as you aren't introducing any new material to the beam.

The only disadvantage that I can see would be the extra math required to precisely mark out the cuts.

Now, I'm just a handyman, that has never welded before, but I have a good eye for things like this. Just my two cents.
 

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Ya I guess next time will be a new method. In hindsight, I probably should have used 1/8" though. Oh well.
 

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Businesses that don't put customers first don't survive. Profit before customers, and in this case, fans, means no more business...
A factoid that is largely incorrect, especially in this context. Most businesses view customer satisfaction *only* in the context of sustaining profits. And they survive quite well by doing so. In any case, if Warner Brothers sues a "fan" for trademark infringement, it might motivate a few thousand people to send an angry email, but its not going to stop anyone from watching movies.

However, none of this speaks to my original point, which was simply objecting to the anti-capitalistic tone of the original poster.


In this case, Qtip isn't profiting from his design (maybe a mod competition or two at the most), it's not like he is selling his design and earning an income from the Batman symbol.

If true, and assuming he's not using the trademark in an obviously derogatory manner (which he isn't), then he has nothing to fear from a civil action.

However, if he sells the case-- something quite a few people on this thread have suggested-- then the suit would be viable in theory. In practice, it would likely take advertising the item for sale, or repeated sales, to compel action. But despite what you may think, such action would not be 'a slap in the face of fans', but a very wise and necessary step. A pattern of failing to protect a trademark or copyright is legal grounds for losing its ownership.
 

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Ya guys it's simply a showpiece for any upcoming lan parties to promote my work, I not worrying any papers will arrive on my doorstep.
 

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The only thing horrible that I think would happen to him is if he didn't finish this thing soon and a mob of angry modders shows up at his shop to stone him. Lookin awesome, can't wait to see the finished product!
 

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Man, a couple of things I did when I first started the project are coming back around to screw with me. I've gotta redo a fan shroud now to make up for the bad design.

Oh well, live and learn. I will say one thing though, I really don't like working with sheet metal as much as I did before. It's better just to buy a large block and bore the hell out of it.
 

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uzor said:
Sort of... In order to bend "towards" the cuts, you have to cut wedges out so you have a gap to close. That's 2x the cutting...

If he would have used a u-bar instead of a four-sided one, he could have used an inward bend without cutting a wedge. Just fold one wall inside the other.

And since you don't have to cut through the fourth wall, it would have been less cutting than the method he chose....and lighter weight, as well.
 

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Ahhh who cares how he had to cut it, the end result is it will look awesome!
 

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Incredible work, man!

Would you care to post a guide as to how you got that level paint finish?
 

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HitMan-sC said:
Incredible work, man!

Would you care to post a guide as to how you got that level paint finish?

IIRC it starts with :

1 - Invest in professional paint booth
2 - Invest in professional painting equipment
3 - Apprentice with a professional painter until sufficiently skilled

Though I do recall seeing around here some time ago a poor man's rattle can alternative guide from one of the other pros that inhabit the forum. If I find it I'll post/send you the link.



::edit::

By the man himself: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=868787


 

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Qtip42 said:
I reaaaallly doubt the steel could take such a bend w/ 1/16" walls :D

Grinding it didn't take too long. Came out decent. Needs bondo though ..bleh.... Didn't have much time today to do anything today, had to work on a 67 vette that needs paint.


that'd been no problem, well, you may have had some kinking up or puckering, but it would have bent damn it. HAHA

If anyone on here needs steel or other metal building materials let me know what sizes etc. and I can have things fabricated to order or have the raw stuff delivered. My father is a field manager for a steel company and he does some of their cad programming etc. I get stuff at cost or so. Depends on what it is, sometimes i get it for free.
 

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Sorry about the lack of updates this last week, had a family member in the hospital so I haven't been in the shop since. Monday I will be priming the case stand and some other misc. parts.


Edit: I've also been working on a fresher look for the website too. It needs an overhaul.
 

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Qtip42 said:
Sorry about the lack of updates this last week, had a family member in the hospital so I haven't been in the shop since. Monday I will be priming the case stand and some other misc. parts.


Edit: I've also been working on a fresher look for the website too. It needs an overhaul.


Sorry to hear about that buddy. My uncle passed away last week from a stroke. I know how those hospital visits can be harrowing.


What's the url for the site?
 

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Stand in primer.
batman44.jpg
 

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Qtip42 said:
You'd be amazed. You can be broke and mod still, it just takes more creativity.
I know this feeling too well. :p

The stand looks great, did you redo it with the inwards cuts? Or just grind down all the welds?
Because I cant tell the difference :D (you don't have to answer that)
 

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Just ground down what I had. No point in starting over. Looks good enough for what it does. I didn't get pictured the mount I put up top for the case nor did I get the acrylic clading either.

It seemed plain to me so I made some red acrylic cladding for it, should be sorta cool.


I also started work on the cover of the case. The insides are pretty close to done.
 

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This doesn't add to anything, but I've actually been to West Linn, OR (quite a feat for us East Coast guys ;) ).
 

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kirbyrj said:
This doesn't add to anything, but I've actually been to West Linn, OR (quite a feat for us East Coast guys ;) ).

Northeast PA huh? Me too... what towns are you near?
 

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If anyone knows of any powered speakers similar to the Swan M200's that are taller (20-30") let me know. I'm going to need some for the final pics. I'd prefer just to have the speakers showing in the final pics rather than have an amp/sub/etc too.
 

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Just an FYI, I took the morning off to update the website finally. The project log on my site has more pics that didn't get put up here I believe. LINK
 

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Qtip42 said:
Just an FYI, I took the morning off to update the website finally. The project log on my site has more pics that didn't get put up here I believe. LINK

What camera do you use for the photos? I have to say they're good photos of the stuff.
 

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i'm still kind of suprise you didn't repeat the main bat logo for the base of the stand.

still, amazing work! can't wait to see the finished product!
 

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BobbyMParr said:
hey what happend to the pictures of the making of the stand?


Sorry I had two sets of pics with the same names and I overwrote them a couple of weeks ago so I just edited the post instead of trying to find the pics again.
 

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BobbyMParr said:
please try to find them and and post them they were VERY interesting and very good examples


AIM me, I have them somewhere but I've gotta look.
 

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Erm, this really needs an update because the validity of it being stickied is dying away. :confused:
 
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