Pre-Order Sales of Battlefield V Have Been “Weak”

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  1. Quad

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    Didn't see anyone mention the biggest problem I have with BF1 and now BF5........the game is full of hackers that ruins it for me. There were hackers in both Beta 1 and 2 of BF5.
     
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    That was fast.
     
  3. bugleyman

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    SJW! Drink!

    Meanwhile, in the real world, people are tired of shitty games loaded with DLC.
     
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  4. bugleyman

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    You seem fair-minded and reasonable.
     
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    I wonder how Origin Premier factors in to sales. Surely it hurts it, I would think.
     
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    I'm ok with DLC if it makes sense (adding a new map a year after release to add value to the original purchase for a few bucks for example), but using DLC as an excuse to suck money from the customers to add content that should have been included with the release? Pass.
     
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  7. DejaWiz

    DejaWiz Oracle of Unfortunate Truths

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    I think it has more to do with EA's primary focus in most of their newer games being that they treat their customers like microtransaction ATM machines, and everything else such as graphics, gameplay, story, etc being secondary. I have no problem with war/fighting games having females. Hell, Chun Li and Cammy are badass characters in Street Fighter, so representing females in these types of games in certainly nothing new...
     
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  8. Flogger23m

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    Hope sales are slow and their micro transaction model blows up in their face. They'll likely end up doubling down on it though for the next game.

    BF1 was shallow and made more casual compared to 3/4. BF5 seems to be following that trend while copying the Fortnite / R6S / CS GO art style. Which I hate. I hate games that look lazy, cheesy and cartoonish.

    The battle royale mode, which I believe was shown in the last trailer with the fire enclosing in on the map, looks lame to. Having to scavenge for ammo in most of the game modes is dull to. I have little interest in scavenging games. Make a proper single player STALKER sequel if you want an element of finding rare items and having some survival mechanics. I have zero desire to do that shit in an online game.

    The DICE developers acting like whiny bitches and throwing insults to mask their Fornite / microtransaction model was merely icing on top of the shit cake.

    I may end up getting it eventually though. I skipped Hardline and caved in for BF1, which I put around 70 hours into overall. Was just too shallow of a game. I suspect I would do the same for BF5. Hopefully World War 3 is decent.
     
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  9. vegeta535

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    Maybe just maybe people are finally waking up to this MT bullshit.
     
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  10. _l_

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    "BF V sales have been weak" ... well, you're about to see the same when the 20 series is released. GPU MFG's and retail etc made a ton of $$$ over charging for the GPU's and the real cost was that many PC gamers have moved on. As I said about 6 weeks ago, I had a 2 month old $1800.00 home built with GTX 1080 FTW and water cooling posted on Craigslist for $1300.00 and got ZERO email replies in two weeks time. Finally sold the 1080 FTW for $400 (that was before the prices dropped) and he offered me $1K for the whole rig. He was either a very greedy person or, gamers have moved on or are now unwilling to pay the ridiculous high prices like $230 for 16 GB Rip Jaws DDR4 :ROFLMAO:

    PC games released the past 1 or 2 years have been great graphics-wise but game-wise they all sucked pretty bad. Between crappy game play/story line (if it had a story line that is) and GPU's priced greedy high IMO many PC gamers have moved on and we can also see it here at [H] regarding a lack of new blood who stick around for more than a few posts they make (or am I mistaken about this?)
     
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    I don't know that they're moving on, but I definitely agree with you on the subpar pc games the last few years. Everything is either some sort of survival game or early access.
     
  12. BloodDonor

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    I have no issue with women in the game...

    I JUST REFUSE TO DO PREORDERS
     
  13. Wade88

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    Really? Just because the Wehrmacht was composed of men from further afield than Germany does not imply that there were black women toting Mausers, operating an 88, crewing a u-boat, driving a panzer... Come on dude.
     
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  14. BasicCandor

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    I dont buy SJW/"Diversity" infected games.
     
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  15. BasicCandor

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    Ah, the Feminazi and her usual attempts at emasculation.
     
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  16. theBrownLlama

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    it's a perfect storm of bad decisions

    1. short campaign ($)
    2. bad launch server experience ($)
    3. too much mtx ($$)
    4. sjw influence (egoistical wannabe-hero psychological disorders=blame it on the water)
    5. too arcadey in mainline BF (effect of EA pushing everyone worth their weight out of the company)
    6. indistinguishable messy trailers ($)
    7. lingering bad taste from bugs and playability of previous entries ($$)
    8. jerkhole corporate leaders ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)

    side note:
    wtf are all the GenY, GenX , millennial multi-millionaires / billionaires? A couple of months of their income = a successful Kickstarter/FIG campaign. These are the sort of people who can buy a Ferrari every month.

    Is there no proper wealth management company that coordinates investment into gaming? I bet these people donate more to WWF and Greenpeace than investing in game producers which makes games for gamers.
     
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  17. dragonstongue

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    if they wanted to make sure sales were where they expected them to be (or better) they would 10000000000000000% make sure the games being pushed out "puppy mill" style were polished big time instead of expecting paying customers to be the "testers"

    if they want to make the paying customers testers for the RTM product, then maybe chop the price in 1/2 or more.

    I have quite a few EA games (am sure many people do) but it seems the overall quality in many of them have tanked significantly over the last 10+ years, you can tell some of their devs (various capacities) such as DICE/Bioware/Crytek/Ubisoft/Criterion/Ghost/Westwood/Maxis etc etc want to pour their heart and soul into making them as great as they can be.

    Big old EA is a massive fucking bully wanting to crack the whip and get things out the door as fast as possible no matter how "complete" they are (jam them full of buy DLC, buy "loot") once out the door they get as few support staff to do patches/updates as possible, so that the remaining team can be full blast at the next brick wall.

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    They sure come up with a ton of "sorry, we will try harder next time" and proceed to do the same damn thing again and again...maybe people (to some extent) are starting to wise up, not because they are "bored" of the genre (or games that EA name is attached to) but likely are very "bored" with the way they as paying customers are treated.

    BF3-BF4 for how nitty and gritty it "should have felt" seemed IMO there were just way too many "hollywood" effects that totally took away from what should have been "nitty gritty" and turned it into more of a "there has to be more BS effects crammed in here somehow"..likey so they could justify asking for a premium price or something along those lines.

    last time I was running as fast as I could through the rain, I did not get water spots all over my eyes and never ever have I had motion blur or noticed in my day to day life radiosity off of every light source nor blinding bright the moment I walk outside and back to cannot see in a dark room a split second later.....anyways, fancy "feel" to set the mood is one thing, but trying to cram as much "set the mood" in there every moment for everything is a total "mood killer" .

    I suppose, if they want to do a WWII based game, cool, how about stick with accuracy and not put things in there that DO NOT belong, would have and did make sense for BF2142 seeing as was "futuristic" but a WWII game with "bionic arms" that is just stupid...I never bothered looking into the game FYI ^.^
     
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  18. Mazzspeed

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    I honestly believe BFBC2 was the last great game in the series.
     
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  19. SixFootDuo

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    I was so addicted to BF4 ... man oh man ... hiding in the rubble sniping for hours at a time. So much damn fun ..... huge maps, full servers, huge atmosphere ... I loved the lucky shots you could get once in a while to kill a chopper full of 4 or 5 people.

    I really loved that it would take 4 - 5 minutes to get Tank across the map and how you had to dodge enemies .... air threats, etc ...

    then comes along fukking BF1 and everyone is running around in circles between buildings mashing their damn controllers .... watched a lot of the BF5 videos, all the combat is super close with a handful of medium distance type action, tho narrow, linear and limited. They are def going for short games.
     
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  20. sirmonkey1985

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    lol you made it to 70 hours? shit i uninstalled BF1 after 5 hours.. i'd rather play shitty ass call of duty what ever the hell number it's at now then BF1 again.. luckily i bought it on black friday so i'm not out a whole lot of money. but yeah i'm done with the BF series..
     
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    Should have done a bc or 2143.
     
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  22. Zepher

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    I myself prefer modern shooters with modern weapons. I did buy BF1 and the expansion when it came out, but I've only played maybe 4-5 hours of the game.
    I've got maybe 500 hours in BF4.

    Maybe next year or the year after they will have a sequel to BF2142, which I really enjoyed back in the day.
     
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  23. TheOne&OnlyZeke

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    Wow...I'm shocked that people are still going on about 'Historical Accuracy' Just get...fucking...over...it
    Its a game
    Who gives a fuck what way they market it. EVERY company pretty much lies about their products in some way

    ANYWAY....I hope by weak, they still mean it'll make money.
    I'm a BF player since forever. BF4 is still my fav but I am giving BF1 a good go now and actually enjoying it.
    I'll be getting this, I don't want it to fail, because knowing EA, if it fails, they could kill DICE
    And then FPS is doomed (Fuck Fortnite and PUBG...fucking half assed shit games...and COD hasn't been good since MW2)
     
  24. dyzophoria

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    everything EA is having hard times at the moment since the battlefront 2 incident =))
     
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  25. Blade-Runner

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    Unfortunately for you, it seems that a significant proportion of EA's customers may not be mindless drones willing to overlook EA/DICE's appalling responses to their concerns or pattern of increasingly shitty behavior.

    Boogie2988 does a great job explaining why EA/DICE fucked up politicizing a game and lecturing their customers about it.

     
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    Yeah that would never happen. I played the first alpha and missed the second alpha as I was on vacation (apparently the first alpha was better from what I've heard) but already at the alpha the game had much better feeling than BF4/BF1 and the hit reg was also better. I had more fun in a game that only featured 6 weapons and 1 map than in BF1.. BF5 is simply just a better game overall and the matches were actually close. Not like BF1's constant 300 tick difference in 90% of the matches.
     
  27. TheOne&OnlyZeke

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    I worked for them...so I am quite aware of how fucking stupid the company can be.
    I am also quite able to ignore any marketing bullshit they come out with also.

    People just need to stop getting annoyed by stuff like this...its just...tiring :)



    it does help I'll get the game for like 10 dollars though :D
     
  28. TheOne&OnlyZeke

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    2nd Alpha was indeed worse
    But we all need to remember...we are playing the Alpha...DICE already have the game ready to go. they'll use the alpha only to see if people find a glitch they haven't already found and fixed
     
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    It's true both alphas were really early builds, but I think it's more about doing stress tests and finding the right damage model that players prefer. I honestly thought the first alpha had a fresh feel on the battlefield franchise and one that punishes stupid choices. Also didn't like how they started giving people more ammo in the second alpha as I found the first alpha to be very balanced with ammo as long as you know where the ammo crates are and pick up enemy soldier's ammo(and don't camp on 1 spot)
    The damage changes from the first alpha worries me and I hope it's not gonna end up like BF1 all over again.
     
  30. socK

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    Why would I pre-order when I could get it on Origin Premier and play several days earlier than everyone else
     
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    Actually, I am a serious history buff. Women did fight in the war mostly on the Russian front and with the different countries resistance forces such as France. I did not say that there were black nazi women? But I feel that their other issues at EA impacted sales even more than this female issue. Also isn't the black nazi thing COD? I only saw what looked like a Scottish female fighting in the trailer? While aggressively inaccurate that would be easily fixed by reflagging her as a member of the French resistance. Black Nazi's is literally impossible given their stances.
     
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  32. mygreeneggsandham

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    Well, as Patric said, they are making bad decisions for the “cause”. I don’t buy entertainment to support a cause. What they have done is just stupid and looks stupid and I can’t look at the game without seeing stupid all over it. BF1 sucks. I will stick with BF4 until the “cause” is replaced with something better than stupid.
     
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  33. Verge

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    Ummmm


    No it isn’t.
     
  34. GNUse_the_force

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    it was sarcasm. Hence the /s

    if you need me to explain why, I can do this. other people seemed to get the joke.
     
  35. Verge

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    Forget the arm, show me some combat reels of 110lb women killing Germans in hand to hand combat. Derp
     
  36. Comixbooks

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    Personally picked up Insurgency Sandstorm Post Scriptum and COD BLOPS 4. The only way they can save the franchise is put out a Modern game now I read messages of people or clans still playing Battlefield 4 because it's been 8 years already.
     
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    There is no "testing" in the "beta." It's just a demo. Often not even the same build as the one ready for release. Maybe. MAYBE you could argue there is some value in server stress and balance testing.

     
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    Between Origin Premier (honestly why buy if you're gonna buy at least one more game), half baked previous BF launches, general fatigue with games like this, and many people seeing preorders as a scam, much of the lack of sales could be attributed to other factors.
     
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    Maybe if they made better games people would buy them?
     
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