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Post your Ryzen 3000 configs!
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Mine woudln't POST even if I manually relaxed my timings when I disabled gear down. Hopefully a bios update will fix it. I don't anticipate i'm leaving a whole lot of performance on the table by running 3600 C18 but I'd certainly like to get 3600 C17 if I could.
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What happens if you try to set the IF clock to 1:2 instead of 1:1? I know it's a long shot, but it isn't like there is this extreme wealth of knowledge about these new chips yet and the buggy microcode doesn't help much!
I am reminded of an issue I had with my 370 Prime and Hynix based kit when I first got it. It was rated for 3200c16 but the system would not even Post with 2 DIMMS installed (from the very first boot)...
I pulled a DIMM, Cleared the CMOS, and then brought power back....it took 3-4 mins before I saw my monitor get an HDMI signal (which I know now is due the way Ryzen 1 and early AGESA code trained memory) but it Posted.
I shut the system off, killed power at the PSU, and added the 2nd DIMM back. It POSTED in 10 seconds and I was able to go on and install Windows on my shiny new 960 Evo.
It took a few revisions of bios releases before I could ever run 3200, but 2933c14 was rock solid and just as fast as anything other then 3200c14.
So you could try either one abd see?
Edit: Mentioning my old ran actually makes me happy and sad at the same time. I paid $199 for that 16GB kit (was the cheapest MC had in stock and the same price as retailers).
I just sold a a brand new never used x370, great OC'ibg 1600, EK terminal bridge, and the Ram and HSF for $270 shipped. Cost me $25 for shipping and insurance lol....
I guess the happy part is that it's a good combo for the guy that bought it (he also purchased my last golden V56 and EK block) and I did get a Micron E die 32GB 3200 kit for $145 with Prime shipping.
Even if that helped to get his timings where they need to be, the performance hit from going 1:2 would be so severe that he would lose a whole lot more than you could ever hope to gain
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I'll be sliding a 3900x into my X370 board. See sig for details.
Gone from 4790k @4.8GHz that I bought four years ago to 3700x, with 2x 8GB FlareX 3200 CL14. Reusing all other gear: quite a few NVMe sticks, SSDs, RAID 1 of 2x 3TB HDDs, SoundBlaster (modulates 5.1 audio to stereo headphones) and 1080ti for graphics.
Saw big improvement on most game titles, as in 20-30 FPS, low 1% stutter is now gone. Crysis 3 in that famous level with lots of grass is loving all the threads.
IO has improved significantly, graphics gets full gen3 x16 AND NVMe sticks get full bandwidth, no more x8 and x8, no more skimping on SATA ports. All storage/graphics/sound devices now use full bandwidth. Thank you PCIe 4.
The only game that had worse performance is Ghost Recon: Wildlands. Down by 5 FPS. I mitigated that by auto-overclock using Ryzen Master utility, however it gives the cores far too much voltage.
I still need to do a manual overclock when I find the time. Also my memory should go 3600 with CL16, since it’s a B-die.
Saw big improvement on most game titles, as in 20-30 FPS, low 1% stutter is now gone. Crysis 3 in that famous level with lots of grass is loving all the threads.
IO has improved significantly, graphics gets full gen3 x16 AND NVMe sticks get full bandwidth, no more x8 and x8, no more skimping on SATA ports. All storage/graphics/sound devices now use full bandwidth. Thank you PCIe 4.
The only game that had worse performance is Ghost Recon: Wildlands. Down by 5 FPS. I mitigated that by auto-overclock using Ryzen Master utility, however it gives the cores far too much voltage.
I still need to do a manual overclock when I find the time. Also my memory should go 3600 with CL16, since it’s a B-die.
X570 Aorus Master with a 3700X. Using OEM Hynix CJR, 4x8GB, CL19/2666, that I pulled from some HP desktops. Arctic Duo 34 cooler.
Starting fresh, it's like 4.0-4.1 all-core (Cinebench MC), 4.2 in games, 4.4 maximum boost. Once I kick my RAM out of JEDEC and overclock to CL16/3600 (69ns latency) I see a reduction in boost clocks because it's taking power away from the limited TDP. PBO enables you to remove this limitation, but then you lose single-core clocks. So offset of +200 MHz to reclaim most (but not all). Ends up being 4.075 all-core sustained, still 4.2ish in games, only 4.275 SC.
This means I get LOWER Cinebench scores when fully kitted out. Yep, both MC and SC. But in real world terms, applications, games, that bandwidth and higher IF frequency goes to work. Games seem to prefer latency (so CL14/3200 would be better most likely, lower IF = more CPU frequency headroom) but bandwidth has its place.
Long story short, I can see why tweakers are pulling their hair out trying to understand these chips.
Starting fresh, it's like 4.0-4.1 all-core (Cinebench MC), 4.2 in games, 4.4 maximum boost. Once I kick my RAM out of JEDEC and overclock to CL16/3600 (69ns latency) I see a reduction in boost clocks because it's taking power away from the limited TDP. PBO enables you to remove this limitation, but then you lose single-core clocks. So offset of +200 MHz to reclaim most (but not all). Ends up being 4.075 all-core sustained, still 4.2ish in games, only 4.275 SC.
This means I get LOWER Cinebench scores when fully kitted out. Yep, both MC and SC. But in real world terms, applications, games, that bandwidth and higher IF frequency goes to work. Games seem to prefer latency (so CL14/3200 would be better most likely, lower IF = more CPU frequency headroom) but bandwidth has its place.
Long story short, I can see why tweakers are pulling their hair out trying to understand these chips.
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Processor
MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280
Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB TUF OC
Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower
SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W
MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280
Asus GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB TUF OC
Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower
SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620 W
What case fans are you using?
Corsair Crystal matx version. Cant remember the model no.
Well, stuck with my R5 1600 for a little longer. Seller didn't ship or communicate for two weeks, and when I filed a complaint, I received refund. I should have figured as much. Even though seller had exemplary feed back, I'm guessing he saw that he could charge $750 for one, rather than $550 or he never had one in the first place. I only went though ebay since I was working nights and wasn't going to sacrifice sleep to head to Microcenter. I guess that's what I get. $550 was okay to me, even though I realized that the seller was going to make a profit, since I would have paid that much with sales tax.
I might just snag a 3600 until I can get a 3900x or may a 3950x when they are released. Bummer, because this 1600 doesn't like 64gb at 3200mhz.
Alternatively, I could snag a cheap Threadripper and board for the same price.
I might just snag a 3600 until I can get a 3900x or may a 3950x when they are released. Bummer, because this 1600 doesn't like 64gb at 3200mhz.
Alternatively, I could snag a cheap Threadripper and board for the same price.
THat is very similar to the build I am looking at, except I might go CoolerMaster instead of Corsair for AIO water & fans. What drew you to the Aurous Master ?
Went to Microcenter this afternoon. Apparently they zeroed out inventory of 3900x and 3700x to deter people from buying them all up in store.
Home with it and a a320 board which will be home to the 1600. Now to put the Smunchkin and twins to bed.
Home with it and a a320 board which will be home to the 1600. Now to put the Smunchkin and twins to bed.
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My 3900X is supposed to be ready for pickup at Best Buy on Monday. We'll see how that goes.
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I went from a 1700 at 3.8ghz 1.4v to a 3700x at 4.3ghz Allcore OC at 1.4v
X370 Prime-Pro
16ghz Trident-Z at 3600mhz 18-18-18-40 had to loosen timings for longer term stability was at 16-16-16-20
256gb 960 Evo
X370 Prime-Pro
16ghz Trident-Z at 3600mhz 18-18-18-40 had to loosen timings for longer term stability was at 16-16-16-20
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Very cool. I can't wait to see how my Prime X370-Pro handles the 3900X.
So, spent yesterday putting the new pc together. Got crazy with cable management lol, Everything had to be tucked away. Even back side of case is neat even though nobody will see.
Went with the 3900x after going back and forth. 3700 3800 3900 9900k I went for the 50% more cores I guess..that and they came back in stock when I was going to make my purchase at Microcenter.
$50 off motherboard and $50 off video card and other discounts make it lil easier to handle the upgrade. (I could of spent less building the 9900k, cpu & MB were less but I just felt like a change in mfg)
Got around to testing the system this morning. After changing my fan setup in case(then cable management issues again rofl)
Nice upgrade from my old pc just looking at cinebench
Only thing I did in bios was check the box for memory setting to auto read the factory setting. it was defaulting to 2400 instead of 3600
New pc. 2 runs.. the 3678 was with fans not working like I wanted. bad airflow. 7852 is after changing the fans so the case had air duh. sensitive to temps and sucks being summer and 98deg out
Old pc with video card on loan since my old gtx 680 died. Just need to finish pulling stuff off my old pc then I will give card back to buddy at work. Now if the 5700xt wasn't $50 off with cpu I probably would not of gotten and would of bought his used 1080
Stock bios. figured I wait until the dust settles before I touch bios.
Went with the 3900x after going back and forth. 3700 3800 3900 9900k I went for the 50% more cores I guess..that and they came back in stock when I was going to make my purchase at Microcenter.
$50 off motherboard and $50 off video card and other discounts make it lil easier to handle the upgrade. (I could of spent less building the 9900k, cpu & MB were less but I just felt like a change in mfg)
Got around to testing the system this morning. After changing my fan setup in case(then cable management issues again rofl)
Nice upgrade from my old pc just looking at cinebench
Only thing I did in bios was check the box for memory setting to auto read the factory setting. it was defaulting to 2400 instead of 3600
New pc. 2 runs.. the 3678 was with fans not working like I wanted. bad airflow. 7852 is after changing the fans so the case had air duh. sensitive to temps and sucks being summer and 98deg out
Old pc with video card on loan since my old gtx 680 died. Just need to finish pulling stuff off my old pc then I will give card back to buddy at work. Now if the 5700xt wasn't $50 off with cpu I probably would not of gotten and would of bought his used 1080
Stock bios. figured I wait until the dust settles before I touch bios.
cpuz shows 4400 - 3800 on all. its strange watching it just randomly change from 4400 to 3800 on all cores for no reason. you would figure no load it would just sit at 3800 but it doesn't
Im on liquid the clc280 as my Noctua just would not fit my case/ board
Edit, I did change the fan profile on the video card to keep temps lower. The volts seem high on the card though. I dunno. Something tells me to not mess with it atm cause it's working well currently
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I got mine from Best Buy as well and it came in early, about two days before the estimate. Running great.
I get 514 in same Single Core test, I notice that the IPC is higher than the I7 7700K and significantly higher to previous Ryzens. 3000 series in this test kicks ass.
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From everything I've read the Aorus Master, Crosshair VIII Hero and Meg Ace are all about the same when it comes to performance. You might gain an M2 slot here or lose a few sata slots there but when it comes down to it bios and appearance are the biggest differences as far as I can tell. I like the looks of the Hero and nothing against that board but my last 3 boards have been Asus and I wanted to give Gigabyte some love, also Buildzoid said it was ok which for him means something
. I may have gone with the Meg Ace but I didn't like the gold or whatever color you want to call it lines that are all over the board and to nitpick further I know that the board has gen4 m2 slots, I don't need it written on every heatsink. My only appearance gripe about the Aorus Master is the red audio capacitors, they stand out like a sore thumb.TLDR: Aesthetics honestly
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Build in progress... Waiting on AMD boot kit to build.
Pretty happy with the case. Little considered about the solid front but we will see. If I need more intake, the sliver plate can be removed and exposes a magnetic dust filter or I can add 2 120mm fans. The side panel can flip 180 meaning the pattern can block the view of the PSU or as show currently. Which looks better? Love the Noctua Redux fans. Added the red Chromax fan mounts to give it a slight pop of color. If your wondering the PSU is a SFX-L sized PSU. I wanted something on the small side if I decide to go deeper down the rabbit hole of mini-ITX. Plus 450 should be plenty for 3600 and 1070TI class card.
Pretty happy with the case. Little considered about the solid front but we will see. If I need more intake, the sliver plate can be removed and exposes a magnetic dust filter or I can add 2 120mm fans. The side panel can flip 180 meaning the pattern can block the view of the PSU or as show currently. Which looks better? Love the Noctua Redux fans. Added the red Chromax fan mounts to give it a slight pop of color. If your wondering the PSU is a SFX-L sized PSU. I wanted something on the small side if I decide to go deeper down the rabbit hole of mini-ITX. Plus 450 should be plenty for 3600 and 1070TI class card.
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Like the looks of that case what kind is it? I think i am fixing to junk my old case for one of those. That's so nice looking.
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They are a sub brand of Phanteks called Metallic Gear. They make Mid ATX, Micro ATX, and mini ITX. Its clean and understated which is what I was going for. I will probably add 1 LED RGB strip somewhere in the case
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This isn't 'cost effective'; that CPU will run on a nice X470
Most people are going to buy the latest chipset if they don't own a motherboard already.
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Been waiting quite a while to switch back to AMD
Ryzen 3600X (currently on Stealth, swapping to EK Supremacy EVO when radiators come in)
ASRock X570 Steel Legend
HyperX Fury 32GB (samsung die) 2666MHz @ 3200MHz 18-21-21-21-41 stock 1.2v
AMD Radeon VII w/ EK water block
NZXT H700i
Running the 3600X at 4100 all core at 1.325v, it was capable of more, but I don't like the high temps on the stealth cooler, will change it up when the water block goes in this week. Currently running an XSPC EX360 radiator on the Radeon VII with 3x Noctua NF-A12x25 fans in push config on the front of the case, running the VII at 2000/1200 with 1060mv and +20% power level; putting in an XSPC TX360 in the top of the case when it comes in this week and add the water block to the CPU.
Edit: Been playing with the HyperX Fury some today. Testing stable at 3533MHz with the same 18-21-21-21-41 1t timings at 1.26v. When I hit 3600MHz, it will work just fine but the IF will downclock to 1600MHz and if I set it manually to 1800MHz it won't boot; though 3533MHz memory and 1767MHz IF works great so far.
Ryzen 3600X (currently on Stealth, swapping to EK Supremacy EVO when radiators come in)
ASRock X570 Steel Legend
HyperX Fury 32GB (samsung die) 2666MHz @ 3200MHz 18-21-21-21-41 stock 1.2v
AMD Radeon VII w/ EK water block
NZXT H700i
Running the 3600X at 4100 all core at 1.325v, it was capable of more, but I don't like the high temps on the stealth cooler, will change it up when the water block goes in this week. Currently running an XSPC EX360 radiator on the Radeon VII with 3x Noctua NF-A12x25 fans in push config on the front of the case, running the VII at 2000/1200 with 1060mv and +20% power level; putting in an XSPC TX360 in the top of the case when it comes in this week and add the water block to the CPU.
Edit: Been playing with the HyperX Fury some today. Testing stable at 3533MHz with the same 18-21-21-21-41 1t timings at 1.26v. When I hit 3600MHz, it will work just fine but the IF will downclock to 1600MHz and if I set it manually to 1800MHz it won't boot; though 3533MHz memory and 1767MHz IF works great so far.
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My 3900x died last night. Reboot itself and post code is 07. Nothing I could do would revive it. Put back in my R5 1600 and returned the 3900x. Feels bad. I'll wait for the newer AGESA updates and the 3950X.
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If that is a ASUS board that is known issue with memory failing training due to boot voltage on memory being set too low by default. If I remember right that was on the X470 boards, could be others as well.
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Asus X370, but it wasn't the C5 mem voltage issue. I dealt with that already.
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Dang that’s some low latency ram
Sorry a mix of corsair sp and LL
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Just got back from Microcenter Going to be a fun evening.
Going to be a fun evening.
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Not a clearance price
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As expected no such animal appeared. AMD is a joke for stock. Paper launch for the most part it appears. This won't gain them market share in HEDT.