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Discussion in 'AMD Processors' started by RamonGTP, Jul 8, 2019.
Because I'm getting one for 10% off.
How does this sound?
MSI B450-A Pro
R9 3900X W/ stock Prism cooler
16gb of Cas 14 Flare X 3200 ( 2x8 )
Gigabyte G1 gaming GTX 1070
EVGA 600GQ PSU
Optical DVD burner. Might go blueray
Fractal Design Focus G case. PSU mounted fan up to double as extra case fan, and 2 fans in the top as intakes along with included front intake fans
Gigabyte x570 mini itx
corsair 32GB 3200 cl16
gigabyte 2TB M.2
samsung 4TB SSD
noctua NH C14S cooler dual fan
asus 24 inch 144Hz monitor
bitfenix prodigy case
gtx 1080 came out of the prev rig , but will upgrade to x5800 or x5900 in a few months
If you need one, get a USB external slimline that you can move around. No reason to put one in a system these days.
Otherwise your build looks good- remember to take pictures and post your build experience and impressions!
These haven't been announced, let alone tested- and if they arrive without DXR, well, making pre-announcement decisions will look a little silly .
[just say you want to upgrade and you're waiting for the next round of high-end GPU releases, we'll understand]
I use a DVD drive quite often where it makes sense for my uses. I have a large stock of good working Dell branded Sony Optiarc's as well
I buy there with price match as they match any body any day and after State tax has been added by Newegg and others which have lost that part now from buyers as to make Best Buy the better option all the way around as said about returns if needed . also I order online like from any store around NC when Best Buy has a fresh supply of Navi = 46 miles one way but in hand = I like not waiting and enjoying my purchase with in 24 hours without 1 day air .
Also I been telling BB that they already have the stores in the rights spots = College towns to take there business model to Micro Center level with more product to sell .. but yes they sell a lot of cpu's as 3600 are hard to keep in stock as I would of bought another one if they had it yesterday = $199 so why not ? … I saw 3 = 3700x to be had yesterday in that store at same Newegg price and they price matched my 1600 last year .
Testing a 3700x on a ROG X370-F with some cheap ram CRUCIAL 16GB 8X2 D4 3200CL16 BSLT.
So far on the AGESA 1002 BIOS, boost to 4.4Ghz works, and I have the ram running at 3600C16.
Will be swapping to an X570 shortly and doing more comparison testing.
A number of Youtube channels have already done this and basically, there's no difference in performance, at least as far as the CPU is concerned. As long as the VRM on those older boards is good enough to allow the CPU to boost, performance is virtually the same. There was some theories that the higher quality PCB's on x570 may, in theory allow higher memory speeds, but I have yet to see this happen in practice from what I've read and watched.
Yeah my main intention was to verify a functional bios, as there are a lot of reports of buggy bios's for the x370 and x470 boards.
Also am comparing power usage and memory clocking.
Here is my finished build. The shots in the dark are with the front cover off. During summer gonna run this way. Plus I love the LED lights that shine through my Noctua redux 140mm fans
GPU is a gigabyte 1070ti
Boot disk is the inland m2 512 GB and steam library/data drive is a 1tb team sata SSD.
think you mounted your pc together upside down! (been a while since i seen supply mounted on top)
Kinda like it on top as it acts a secondary exhaust point and it allows for the GPU to be on the very bottom with vents in the bottom of the case to it can receive fresh air. Plus its a SFX-L so its so cute and tiny, but Sea sonic quality. This was if I venture further down the SFF PC rabbit hole because lets face it this case is more in the realm of Micro-AXT size but super tiny compared to my old school Lian-Li PC Lancool K-58
motherboard: Asus Pro X570 Workstation Ace
Kept from my 1800x :
cooler: thermaltake water 3.0 240mm (thermal grizzly kryonaut)
ram: 64GB of 3200mhz ram, gskill tridentZ 14-14-14-34
gpu: asus strix rx480 8gb graphics card.
storage: m2 ssd + 4 sata ssd's
power supply : seasonic prime titanium 750
case: rosewill atx mid-tower gaming pc (all glass)
fans: 3 120mm front fans, 2 120mm radiator fans, 1 160mm rear fan. radiator fans are rpm controlled by motherboard. the rest are fixed power.
240mm aio's are really insufficient for the 3900x. They behave more like heatpipes at that size in that there is no real volume of water to absorb temp spikes when they happen and full load @ 4.2Ghz all cores puts the temps in the 70C range. Granted, I'm using only 2 fans on the radiator. Still, system is rock stable despite temps at idle being 29C and swings to the 70's under full sustained load compiling. Half the compile times with the same hardware and software as my 1800x
I'll be looking for a 360mm setup in the future when I go to upgrade my graphics card (when the next set of navi cards come out that will compete at the highend)
ambient temp is roughly 77F
idle cpu: 29-32C
full load all cores at 4.2Ghz : 75-78C
full gaming load for avg games: mid 50's.
benchmarks here comparing to my 1800x setup. Done the next day on all the same hardware and software (no re-install or anything)
It's a sweet little build! I could fit like 3 of your cases inside of mine...I think I have more radspace thrn you have case space!
CPU: R5 3600 @ 4.2GHz
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15
RAM: 32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 @ 3600
GPU: Gigabyte 2070 Super Gaming OC (+100/+800)
Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawk
Case: Fractal Meshify C
PSU: Gigabyte GP-750H
Storage: 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus
Loving this setup. Super quiet with virtually no changes needed for fan curves, etc... Paired with a 1440p ultrawide for maximum gaming pleasure!
Temps stay super low. In synthetics (e.g. prime95/intelburntest) CPU peaks in mid 60s C, and I've never seen the GPU break 64C even in extended Furmark runs. During real world load (gaming) temps hover in mid 50s for both. The NH-D15 barely fits in this case, but dear god does it do a good job!
I finally found one in stock this morning! (at mrsp)
Asus X570 Hero
EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 (already had)
Corsair H150i AIO
EVGA Supernova P2 1000watt
1TB Corsair MP600 nvme
6TB WD Black (mechanical)
Corsair (9) ML120 Pro RGB's
Corsair LED strips
Corsair Commander Pro
I'm still working on the ram though... I've been all over the place but I'm looking at this now Trident Z Neo 32GB @ 3600 CL16, if it comes back in stock.
This is going to be a big jump from my 2600K, lol.
you doing a manual 0/C or PBO?
Validated it through Ryzen Master to start, then set in BIOS (upped multiplier to 42 and manually set voltage/infinity fabric/memory).
Ryzen 3000, but technically Ryzen+, rather than Ryzen 2.
In Win BP655
Silverstone TFX 300W
MSI B450 itx Gaming Plus
Cosair Vengeance LPX 2 x 8 GB 3200
Crucial 1TB M.2
Noctua NH L9a
LG portable DVD 8X USB
The case is just alright. I'd rather they sold it for $30 less without the PSU. Then it would be more worth recommending. The included 200W PSU was too loud and had to replace it.
Also, the front panel cables are a bit short, and can't be routed around things.
One the plus side, with only an SSD or M.2, this case can offer decent ventilation for its size, unlike some other cases built to a small form factor.
Meanwhile, the wifi on this motherboard isn't the greatest (Intel 3168 module).
Given all my unused PSU cabling, maybe I should have gone with a smaller case and a Pico power adaptor. I just really dislike any kind of external adapter.
And with my 300W PSU I ended up with, I could potentially beef things up a bit down the road without power concerns.
Is that nasty blue led down the right side on all the time? That would drive me insane.
Blue LEDs are terrible, and have been linked to sleep issues, migraine/headache/vertigo, and even cancer!
I hate the two small blue LEDs on my cable modem...my old one was green and I can't believe any major manufacturer is using blue LEDs in 2019. This is a fairly new modem, only been out for a year or so.
I took a sharpie and colored over it. Don't care if the cable company tries to charge me down the road either!
daphatgrant , do you want 16 or 32GB? If $200 is within your budget, I would get the same 32GB G.skilll B die based kit I have. It is running 3400c14 across (this is with 2 DR DIMMs)and will run everything at 3600 c14-15-14...
I got mine from Newegg for $190, here is a link G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C14D-32GVK https://m.newegg.com/product/N82E16820232214?ignorebbr=1&m_ver=1
If you want to save even more and roll the dice on OC'ing the Crucial Ballistix LTs that use Micron E die seem to be able to do 3400-3600c16... Personally I think the extra $50 is worth it.
Thanks for the suggestion man, I appreciate it. My preference is 32GB, budget is <$500. I've come to that sad realization that populating all 4 dimms is not really an option as the chances of hitting the advertised speeds isn't guaranteed.
Your temps look perfectly fine to me
80c is not fine. . 70c makes me unhappy
You may not like the temps, but they are indeed fine and typical when loading 12 cores. Have you looked at the reviews? These aren't exactly cool running processors even under water.
Yes, power and hdd activity LEDs.
But I only have the power LED active currently. And now that the build is stable, I'll probably unplug that one as well.
That's too bad they didn't use red or green or even a soft white or something. I would definitely have to unplug them.
I just got mostly dialed out. I'm quite new to Ryzen in general but it was simple enough. It's a bit more reliable than my previous SkylakeX 7820x. I got the cpu to 4.3ghz at 1.3v. Under Prime95 avx it gets up to 77c, but in normal use max average is 55c. Interestingly even at stock, the 3900x beat my firstname.lastname@example.org in Cinebench single and multi.
Asus x570 Strix-E
Gskill TridentX 3600 32gb
2 - EK PE480mm rads
EK Velocity AMD cpu block
EK Vector Radeon VII gpu block
Swiftefch MCP35x pump
Have you tried per-ccx overclocking at all?
Not yet, I've still got a bit to learn. I just clocked the memory and set up offset voltage on the cpu. Is there a guide for per-ccx overclocking?
Der8auer did a video on it but he used a tool that isnt recommended for everyone. You should be able to do it through ryzen master. Heres a link with some discussion
I got a gigabyte master X570. Motherboard is quiet. Don’t hear the chipset fan
asus pro x570 workstation mobo here. Chipset fan is not noticeable. Then again, I imagine it only really spins up when needed and I haven't setup something that could try saturating pci4. I imagine i'd need to raid0 both m2's and add m2 addon boards to the other slots and raid0 those before i can really tax pcie4. My old rx480 is certainly not going to make it sweat.
my camera not highest quality, very tight place to be taking them as well (no room yet to get "money shot" type pictures, but, this is what I have cobbled together for the moment
-- p.s cannot afford tripod right now, suffice to say will be a long while before can complete this with a solid GPU to let me use my monitor @ the full up to 144Hz @ 1440p.
second fan to cooler (not need, but purple LED keep crazy blue LED tolerable)
did few adjust settings (after many times force reset BIOS, few times windows itself with no real explanation up/dump)
manged above 3600x "stock" stats according to cpu-z valid bench check (when went to single core was ONLY below the 7900 xe part
the top score I had (not cfv file thingy) was when forced ram @ 3600 though windows not seem to like it much (likely subtiming issue, i.e 18 instead of a 19 type thing)
I did adjust BIOS power supply to typical load instead of auto, disable superfetch, set windows to balanced power plan (not ryzen version) among other changes
seems to have made more stable and cooler running vs the ryzen based one, maybe a touch more "latent" though is still snappy response (even with many things open)
4085-4127 range (multi core) the 2 I list on the photos link you can see the 3 of them scores.
509-523 single core
seems performance not quite stabilized (course am stock not best for Ryzen 3 Agesa/BIOS)
Put it on a tripod, set ISO to lowest and shutter speed to auto, turn off flash, and let it take its time.
While my main computer is listed in the signature below (may upgrade it after moving next year), I decided to swap out the 3770K for a 3600 w/Asus TUF Gaming Plus (using Wraith Prism cooler from 2700X). I pretty much undervolted the CPU/SOC (1.3/.9) and found it is stable at 4.1 manual OC across six cores and Cinebench takes it to about 75c. I still have a few things I want to mess with before calling it good, but I feel that I am near a good baseline.
I have messed with PBO for a few... I cannot seem to get the voltage under control, even with a -.08 offset.
Here's mine: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/CXr6Mp
Out of interest, why are people going with 3200Mhz RAM instead of 3600Mhz?
Probably cause it will still run at 3600
Cost, overclockability, availability.
Though, cheaper 3600 has been proving to run at much tighter timings, whereas cheaper 3200 might not fair so well at higher frequencies.