Porsche says - Tesla Who?

Discussion in '[H]ard|OCP Front Page News' started by Kyle_Bennett, May 16, 2018 at 10:30 AM.

  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Tesla made the first what? Porsche let's us all know that it built its first electric cars for 120 years. We actually did not know that. And here is a cool marketing video, because we like cool cars around here. And the narrator's voice is very soothing with the morning coffee.

    Check out the video.

    History is written by those who start in pole position. Strictly speaking, Porsche E-Performance was set in motion 120 years ago when Ferdinand Porsche took a leading role in the design of the Egger-Lohner C.2 Phaeton electric car and development of the Semper Vivus. Around one hundred years later, Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG reprised this visionary concept for use in production-based GT racing. See all the milestones of our hybrid and electric engine history and take a look what the future will bring in this video.
     
  2. Psychonic

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    I like Porsche and all, but they are bragging about a technology that they abandoned 120 years ago and just now re-implementing? Seems like they are following the trends now instead of leading them. Imagine what might be now if they had pursued the technology back when they first introduced it. I like the thought behind electric vehicles, but the production and subsequent replacement of batteries is far more damaging to the environment than a current production gas engine over the life of the vehicle. There are other, less toxic energy technologies that surpass battery based technologies. Bravo for following the trend, but meh...
     
  3. Sikkyu

    Sikkyu I Question Reality

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    Porsche that one company that says they can take any simple car, make it more complex without adding any benefit then the price tag.

    Porsche also made the first hybrid tanks in WWII, and that whole thing supporting Hitler, although Porsche back then was quite inferior to basically every option.
     
  4. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    Strange history did not know that either.

    Yeah... first electric car.. riiiiight, and to be fair, the guy made an electric car yes but he did so working for another company, this is like some Ford engineer creating something, then later on making his own company and claiming his company made the first XXX instead of Ford.
     
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  5. katanaD

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    watching the video i really was left wondering if i shouldnt ask.. porsche.. show us on the doll where the electric vehicle touched you..

    i mean WOW..
     
  6. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    And to follow up, I think they hired the same guy who did the music for Interstellar to do that commercial.
     
  7. vegeta535

    vegeta535 [H]ard|Gawd

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    Rather have a Porsche then a Tesla.
     
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  8. Joust

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    Rather have an XJ220 than any Porsche ever made.
     
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    Everyone copies Hans Zimmer.
     
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    Reading comprehension is important. Porsche did not say they made the first electric car. They said they made their first electric car 120 years ago, so beat Tesla to the punch, so to speak.
     
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  12. jpm100

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    He claimed to make the first Porno?
     
  13. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    So is "RTFA" in this case the video, where they very clearly say "because we built the first electric car over 100 years ago", not they built "THEIR" first electric car 100 years ago. 0:18 in the video.
     
  14. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics I don't get it

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    Unfortunately the engineer's handwriting was fairly horrible... and we got the Pinto
     
  15. Woody1150

    Woody1150 n00bie

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    The concept for the Mission-e looked better IMO.
     
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    Puncture the rear and it explodes? ;)
     
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    I was excited for the Mission-E concept, and now that I see the production version I'm less than impressed. Once again, concept to reality doesn't provide anything fruitful. It's an electric panamera now, no thanks
     
  18. Zarathustra[H]

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    That's great and all, but how many electric cars have they sold in total?
     
  19. travisty

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    Porsche: Your great-grandpa's electric vehicle!
     
  20. SomeoneElse

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    You know it might be feasible to buy, except anything from Porsche is probably well out of most people's price range.
    Its all well and great they created electric cars 120 years ago but you stopped.
     
  21. H2R2P2

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    The technology was never abandoned by anyone. The facts are that when you took and size, weight, and range into account electric vehicles made no sense. Gasoline engines were (and still are) more efficient in these areas. The only item that needed (and still needs) development is batteries.
     
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    I came here to post exactly that, was a really cool design but the motors overheated like melting the axles.
     
  23. Sikkyu

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    Yep, also the fact that each electric motor used a crapload of copper which they didn't have.

    Porsche knew this and still made not 1, but 2 prototypes knowing even if it did work(it didn't), they couldn't actually build them.
     
  24. QuiteSufficient

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    Every dentist in America has this on replay today
     
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    Oh look, the Germans want to play catch-up after Tesla's shown them how it's done.

    The Mission-E will have astounding build quality (something my S100D sure doesn't have) and a price to match. The more the merrier.
     
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    Ah, yes and the first Teslas tended to melt the whole car.
     
  27. Krenum

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    Me too.
     
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    Like how to lose money every year?
    Like how to not actually create anything new?
    Like fucking over people who buy salvage/rebuilt cars?
    Like how to miss deadlines while under delivering overhyped products?
     
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  29. ecuador

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    You'd think that at least in their own commercials Porsche would pronounce their name right, instead of the Joey from Friends way...
    And kudos for making an electric car 120 years ago (not the first BTW) and then forgetting all about the concept for over a century and trying to play catchup now (and showing off "hybrids" like it is the same thing).
     
  30. capt_cope

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    They should have hired better voice talent.
     
  31. lostin3d

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    Make it a RUF 1000hp/4wd and give me three.
     
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  32. Krenum

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    Had to look it up, pretty sweet car. I'll take a 80's 911 turbo :p or if were talking crazy, the Steve McQueens La Mans Porsche 917!
     
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  33. lostin3d

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    Back in my PS2 days I had a gameshark that unlocked the whole garage in GT A-Spec. Used to spend hours just looking at those cars. Found this one and it became one of my favorites for the handling and speed. Always dreamed about it since.
     
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    Oh man, GT on PS2 was awesome. I remember running a 24 hour endurance race and the power went out in a storm, haha, fun times.

    ....probably should try to stay on topic though. Don't want to derail the thread too much.
     
  35. EODetroit

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    Lol Tesla who, from the company imitating them so fully. If it wasn't for Tesla, they wouldn't be making an EV now, or planning any for the future. Stop pretending, Porsche.
     
  36. theBrownLlama

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    Tesla is the darling of tech journalism

    for car and business journalism , it's a laughing stock
     
  37. theBrownLlama

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    Hybrids were WELL on their way before Tesla. (Prius, Fusion etc etc) Tesla just stole the spotlight because of Musk's hyper PR machine.

    Why Hybrids are still the preferred these days? Cause the much fancied network of high speed charging stations for electrics is still m.i.a
     
  38. kring

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    I'm a porsche & Tesla fan. but can't help thinking this was a ton of marketing BS.. Hybrid does not equal electric.. end of story. Qn electric vehicle is entirely powered by electric... so simple, not sure how they classify a hybrid as electric. and then to state they have the fastest electric vehicle on the planet when they don't.. I love the feel of this video, but kinda lying a lot here.
     
  39. Joust

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    I think it says the made the fastest street legal hybrid...

    But really, when comparing it to Tesla's marketing hype, they could put a week-old banana on a table and say, "This fruit can travel farther being thrown by an infant you can drive that Tesla you ordered 6 months ago."

    Let's not be too harsh with marketing. We know the score. Can't fault them for bravado.
     
  40. theBrownLlama

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    no intercity driver would want a full electric. Especially not Porsche's buyer base who would like a weekend drive or two