POLL: RTX - Wait for reviews or pre order?

Discussion in 'nVidia Flavor' started by SpeedyVV, Aug 21, 2018.

Wait for reviews, or Pre-Order?

  1. I will wait for the [H] review, and others before getting one

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  2. I will/have pre order.

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  1. Maddness

    Maddness Gawd

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    You might end up counting your blessings there. You just never know.
     
  2. Armenius

    Armenius [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Damn, must be hard when your only source of income is crypto.
     
  3. Stoly

    Stoly [H]ardness Supreme

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    Well I'm married, so crypto was indeed my only source of income for GPU upgrades :D:D:p:p

    When I first got my GTX1070, in about 5 months I got a little over $740 from ETH. Enough to recover the cost of the 1070 and get a GTX1070Ti for gaming.

    Foolish me I expected the trend to continue so in a year I could afford the next generation video card. and up to a couple of months ago I could. But today even if I sold both cards I'd still be short for a GTX2080Ti.
    And certainly the Ms surely won't be happy on me spending $1200 dlls on a video card.
     
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    obs [H]ardness Supreme

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    Amazon selling is way better for video cards. Plus, with FBA Amazon will be more likely to cover any fraud (ie - returning a different card).
     
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  5. Krenum

    Krenum [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Same feelings I felt when I couldn't afford to buy a 10 series card because of overpricing & crypto madness.
     
  6. Krenum

    Krenum [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Screw selling high dollar items on Ebay, once its all said and done you'll be lucky to make a profit after Ebay & Paypal have their way with you.
     
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  7. cybereality

    cybereality 2[H]4U

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    True, the fees and shipping do add up, but it's an option. Especially if you want to test the card out for a week or whatever and then decide.
     
  8. Krenum

    Krenum [H]ardForum Junkie

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    I used to sell computer parts on Ebay, but had to stop doing it since PayPal jacked their take up. It just isn't profitable anymore & you have to sell at such a high price to make the difference people don't bid on your items.
     
  9. Comixbooks

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    I'm waiting for them to be in stock period leaning towards a 2080 RTX regular card I don't think my eyeballs will miss the extra FPS in games with a TI version.
    I suppose if I kept it for a long time I would get the 2080ti but it would drop in price big time over two year and after the other versions of the cards come out.
     
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  12. cybereality

    cybereality 2[H]4U

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    At least they went full 3 slot on it. The straight on picture looked like it was wet though, lol.

    11G-P4-2487-KR_XL_3.jpg
     
  13. harmattan

    harmattan 2[H]4U

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    Looks like every other FTW3 for the past 3 gens. Am I missing something?
     
  14. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge Not the Idiot YOU are Looking for

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    If the trim were more prominent...
     
  15. noko

    noko 2[H]4U

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    I hope EVGA has something like the SC Black and two slot card - if you go high you must SLI ;)
     
  16. Brahmzy

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    Massive cooler on that FTW3..
     
  17. Rizen

    Rizen [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Been rocking my Titan X Pascal for 2 years now and probably just going to ride it out until whatever comes after the RTX 2000 series. So far I haven't seen anything that suggests it will be worth the money for me, and I'd rather upgrade the rest of my system which has been together since 2014.
     
  18. MangoSeed

    MangoSeed Limp Gawd

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    Pascal Titan looks like a great day one purchase now.
     
  19. cybereality

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    It was. It was also a $1,200 GPU. Maybe once the dust has settled, the 2080 Ti will be just as good, if not better.
     
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  20. SnowBeast

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    Well going to see what the effect of adding DLSS/Ai on top of original processing adds. I was thinking about this the other day. Could micro-stuttering become an issue? You are adding two engines to the equation. RTX will probably sit idle on 90% of cards but still running through DLSS/Ai supposedly helps speed up frame rates, but at what cost? Could DLSS/Ai negate an advantage leading to that also being turned off? Pretty much leaving owners with more expensive 1080Ti V2's with 20% more speed?

    Just a thought I had while staring at my 90 day step and if I was even going to use it. Can't wait to see the reviews. So close.....
     
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    Its ULTRA.....

    Automatic $400 dollar markup!
     
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  22. Dayaks

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    I am pretty sure Jensen said how much DLSS adds in the keynote but I am not going to go back and watch it. I think it was less than a millisecond, something so unnoticeable I didn’t commit it to memory.

    Most of the heavy lifting is done at nVidia’s super computers. The tensor cores just apply a few million variables to the image.
     
  23. IdiotInCharge

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    While I'll point out, as I'm absolutely sure you're aware, that the milliseconds 'add up', I also don't expect this to have a significant impact in most gaming scenarios, and on those that it does, disabling it is on the table.

    And like the inference engines being put into mobile SoCs, what Nvidia learns with DLSS this generation will inform future hardware refinements that almost certainly will include the reduction in processing time needed.
     
  24. XoR_

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    Pre-ordered GTX 2080Ti :cool:

    Ray-tracing and AI stuff - here I come :ROFLMAO:
     
  25. cybereality

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    Glad too see some people keeping it [H]ard.
     
  26. Kyle_Bennett

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    Well, NVIDIA has so well locked down the release driver that I do not think there is any way we will hit release date for the 2080.

    2080 embargo is currently 9/17 at 8am CDT.

    2080 Ti is 9/20 at 8am CDT currently. 2080 Ti is possibly going to be pushed back. Dunno yet.

    We can get drivers, but we cannot get "release" drivers, and quite frankly, without good drivers, we do not want to do a review. So all in all, we will still be "late."
     
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  27. Brahmzy

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    No worries here. Looking forward to your reviews. Thanks for the transparency.
     
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  28. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge Not the Idiot YOU are Looking for

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    And we'll wait for the good stuff.

    Thanks for the [h]ard work Kyle and team!
     
  29. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    I think think this has changed again. Both cards now on the 19th. And official drivers are supposed to come out in a couple of days for review.
     
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  30. DigitalGriffin

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    To sum up; Raw performance gains in existing games is what I'm interested in and will determine if I consider it worth it. If I'm getting 20% improvement for a 50% price bump, that's a hard pill to swallow.

    RTX extensions are a SIDE STEP in terms of quality because you have to lower your resolution to run it at a reasonable framerate from everything I can tell.

    I would be more interested in raw performance improvements in existing games (especially VR) to justify the price.

    But if NVIDIA expects me to pay a premium for RTX alone, I'll likely wait until 7nm comes out and there are more RTX circuits. I want something that is more future proof for that much money. Barely running 1080p on today's games isn't going to cut it.
     
  31. JayteeBates

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    MSI 980Ti SeaHawk is my current card for my 1440P Asus monitor. Everything I play I max and it plays fine so I am not seeing the need right now.
     
  32. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge Not the Idiot YOU are Looking for

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    Honestly we should wait for reviews; we really just can't 'tell' right now. We have sideshow comments from developers putting together late alpha work.

    I think we're all here. I'm not even interested- I paid US$700 for my watercooled 1080Ti, and I'd likely net paying that much to step up after its sale and getting a decently cooled 2080Ti.

    Now, I should say that I am interested in RTX, but it's not the highest thing on the list given where I'm coming from. If I were coming from lower though I definitely would be.

    There's no such thing ;)

    That's my card!
     
  33. XoR_

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    @NV
    Just take my money already !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
     
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  34. Elios

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    seems there are drivers now maybe you could get set from some one and get the early scoop
     
  35. Kyle_Bennett

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    Drivers available to those that signed the NDA and are on NVIDIA's list. Even the drivers the AIBs have, are limited on functionality. You cannot play games on those drivers.

    So embargo has been pushed for both cards to the same day, the 19th at 8am CDT....as of right now.

    Reviewers that have signed the NV NDA, and have been identified by the AIB to NVIDIA, will have to log into a site to get drivers, that driver will install, then it will erase all the files needed for install. There is telemetry in the driver as well, and this came from an NV employee, he told me NV could narrow down with fair accuracy where exactly the card is being used geographically.
     
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  37. noko

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    Good grief, Nvidia turned paranoid, it is just a damn card. Secret drivers with uber control methods, telemetry to figure out location - What is next? A hit squad if a reviewer speaks the truth if they find anything negative? Nvidia better have something very good or the shit is going to hit the fan.
     
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  38. Phlorge

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    This is standard practice. AMD does the same shit.
     
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  39. Elios

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    VPN?
     
  40. Kyle_Bennett

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    So how exactly am I supposed to log into the NVIDIA site to get this drivers when NVIDIA is controlling each and every person that is getting those?