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You know the police officer had to be like "what the!?!?" when he walked up to the driver side window.
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I bet that was a nice break for the officer. The officer didn't have to listen to someone screaming, "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?".
Google should put the Johnny Cab robot from Total Recall in there for situations like this.
Google's car should've just reminded the cop about some of his past search results then just strolled off beeping the horn.
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, written reprimand is due for that Officer.
How was the officer supposed to know the vehicle qualifies as a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle (NEV)/Low-Speed Vehicle (LSV) without stopping it and making a determination first hand?
Google's car should've just reminded the cop about some of his past search results then just strolled off beeping the horn.
How was the officer supposed to know the vehicle qualifies as a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle (NEV)/Low-Speed Vehicle (LSV) without stopping it and making a determination first hand?
How was the officer supposed to know the vehicle qualifies as a Neighborhood Electric Vehicle (NEV)/Low-Speed Vehicle (LSV) without stopping it and making a determination first hand?
- Driver license
- Registration
- EPA Regulations
- Safety belt
- Etc.
The Mountain View Police Department officer stopped the car to talk to its operators about how "the car was choosing speeds along certain roadways and to educate the operators about impeding traffic per 22400(a) of the California Vehicle Code".
However, in this instance the Google vehicle hadn't broken any laws, as Google cars aren't permitted to travel more than 25mph under the Neighborhood Electric Vehicle Definition per 385.5 of the California Vehicle Code..
This part is written in a manner that implies capability, that the vehicle isn't capable of going faster then 25MPH.Neighborhood Electric Vehicle (NEV)/Low-Speed Vehicle (LSV) Definition (CVC §§ 385.5, 21250)
An NEV/LSV is a motor vehicle that:
Has four wheels.
Within one mile can reach a speed of more than 20 miles per hour (mph) but not more than 25 mph on a paved level surface.
Operation of NEVs/LSVs
Local authorities, by ordinance or resolution, may restrict or prohibit the use of NEVs/LSVs. An NEV/LSV may:
Not be operated on any roadway with a speed limit above 35 mph.
Modified/Altered NEVs/LSVs
(CVC §21254)
If you modify or alter your NEV/LSV to go faster than 25 miles per hour, the vehicle no longer qualifies for the relaxed FMVSS established for NEV/LSVs. Your vehicle will be required to meet the same FMVSS established for passenger vehicles. Failure to comply with all necessary regulations may result in a citation.
Damnit, forgot the most important part. :fail:
Anyhow, I was pulled over in IL because I had an air freshener hanging from my rear view mirror. I had no idea that was illegal in IL being from another state, was told ignorance of the law is no excuse, so that my sarcastic joke above, lmao.
Haven't you heard yet? Police officers are supposed to be inhumanly all-knowing. If they're not and have to take some kind of action to figure something out, it totally justifies someone's existing anti-law enforcement opinion that springs from an irrational male insecurity over figures of authority wearing uniforms that somehow wronged them by acting to stop or prevent criminal acts to the benefit of a stable society. I mean, every guy I've met gets upset at the police officer that pulled them over when they were speeding because it's the somehow the cop's fault that a person can't drive at the posted speed limit.
Please be sexist elsewhere.
Cops who enforce victimless crimes are evil, regardless of if they have authority. They are wronging all of humanity.
Cops are only doing their job. Ultimately bad laws are the results of doucebag private citizens how vote in doucebag politicans who make stupid laws. If one lives in an urban area and considers oneself to be a SJW than one is a douce responsible for the stupid laws enforced by those who put their lives on the line for our safety.Please be sexist elsewhere.
Cops who enforce victimless crimes are evil, regardless of if they have authority. They are wronging all of humanity.
Tech is impressive it knows how to get pulled over.
It's a grey area really. The problem with the NEV rules is that they are meant for golf carts, not cars. Vehicles meant to be used for short neighborhood trips of a block or two, not a vehicle to go across town or commute to work.He's a cop FFS, they aren't supposed to do constructive things. You want constructive, find a construction worker
And kindly take your words out of my mouth, I didn't say any of this;
But in rebuttal, upon observance of a possible moving violation the cop will:
Run the Plate Number usually before the stop is made, observe if the occupants are belted up during the initial contact or during the actual stop and occupant questioning process. Determine the status of Driver's License and Vehicle Registration during the occupant questioning process. And ETC is performed as need requires
Furthermore, as the article is written in an ambiguous manner, there is more then one way to interpret this comment;
Did the cop stop the car to inform the operators about how "the car was choosing speeds along certain roadways...", or to ask the operators about how "the car was choosing speeds along certain roadways..." in an effort to better understand how the vehicles function as they currently make up part of the traffic landscape of the are he works in?
And this part of the article is actually much more involved;
Here is the relevant text:
This part is written in a manner that implies capability, that the vehicle isn't capable of going faster then 25MPH.
So there is an important issue in this Law that relates to the vehicles capability, not only it's operated speed. It's doesn't matter how fast you are driving, if the vehicle is capable of greater then 25MPH speeds then it must comply with the law that governs driving too slow.
In defense of the statement, everything I have seen in a quick little search says the vehicle's top speed is 25MPH. But if a cop clocks one at greater then 25MPH then he would be correct to stop and ask some questions.
Eh, I live in Mountain View and see several of the cars in my commute nearly every day. IMHO the cars are a bit of a nuisance, not horrible by any means but traffic already sucks with craptastic hooman drivers. Aside from driving slowly they are not very fast or decisive decision makers and get confused easily in heavy traffic.
Those cars are monitored the entire time they travel, the operator likely took semi-manual control of the car and told it to park somewhere.Tech is impressive it knows how to get pulled over.
Please be sexist elsewhere.
I would have LOVED to see the look on the guy's face.
Cops are only doing their job. Ultimately bad laws are the results of doucebag private citizens how vote in doucebag politicans who make stupid laws. If one lives in an urban area and considers oneself to be a SJW than one is a douce responsible for the stupid laws enforced by those who put their lives on the line for our safety.
I bet that was a nice break for the officer. The officer didn't have to listen to someone screaming, "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?".