PoE plus with 8 ports, 120w (or more) total power?

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  1. c3k

    c3k 2[H]4U

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    Folks,

    I'm looking for a powered network switch for my security cameras. 8 cameras, so I need 8 PoE ports, plus one or two for the switch to hook up to the rest of the network.

    The current switch is a knockoff from GreatWall industries. The power brick shows 54v @ 2.23A. That's about 120 watts of supplied power...if the label is accurate.

    Looking around, I'm not sure what brand is reliable and can give me the 10+ ports (8 PoE), I need.

    I've found the Netgear GS728TP for $360. That's a bit steep and seems like overkill. 24 ports, 192w. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122541&cm_re=POE+-_-33-122-541-_-Product

    At the other end of the spectrum, the Netgear GS108PP-100NAS is a port too short. It has 8 TOTAL ports. Its power max is 120W. I'd have to get two of them. (The benefit is it would unload each, if I put 4 cameras per switch). I'd just bridge them together with a patch cable, and then just use another port to connect one to my network. That would be a $270 solution. A bit steep, but doable. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122965&cm_re=POE+-_-33-122-965-_-Product


    There's got to be a better solution. 8 PoE ports (preferably PoE+), a total power budget of more than 120W, and at least 9 ports total. (Gigabit speed, of course.)

    Any ideas?

    Thanks,

    Ken
     
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  4. c3k

    c3k 2[H]4U

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    Thanks, guys.

    You've both listed Ubiquiti. I'm not a network expert, but it sounds like you guys are. This is a good hardware group? If so, it fits my needs...

    Thank you.
     
  5. elavanis

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    I'll chime in as well and say yes. My entire home network uses Ubiquiti and its never has an issue.

    Just an fyi, the difference between the Unifi and the EdgeSwitch basically comes down to the way you want to configure them. The EdgeSwitch configuring is done on the switch itself via a self hosted website and the Unifi is done via a software downloadable controller. The controller is nice in that it is one place to manage routers, access points and switches but they all need to be of the unifi branding. They are coming out with a similar controller for the Edge series but it is still in beta right now.

    One other option. https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFi-Switch-60W-US-8-60W/dp/B01MU3WUX1
    You could get two of these. That would give you 8 ports of poe and 8 ports non poe and you could do the linking like you said earlier. It would be a bit cheaper than your $270 solution. Also to figure out the wattage you need you would need to know the power draw of the cameras. The switch would tell you the max power the switch can consume + send out as POE + some extra for safety margin.
     
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  6. Cmustang87

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    It beats any home grade stuff you'd buy from Netgear or any of the big box retailers.
     
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    Running this switch myself, it's pretty incredible. As a bonus, it supports the PoE standard that some of the older unifi stuff uses ( 24v ), as well as the newer standards.

    OP: Unifi is great stuff for the home and/or small office. It doesn't necessarily have some of the more advanced features of the corporate stuff from cisco and the like, but it's rock solid, is featureful and priced decently, especially when viewed against the crap from the low end vendors like netgear.
     
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  8. c3k

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    Great stuff. Thanks.

    I'm between the unifi and the edge 8 port switches. (For the two SFP ports, I'll have to get an adapter to use with my Ethernet. No prob. I see some listed at $18 per.)

    The wattage rating seems pretty darn good. Lots of good reviews.

    My one hesitation is that they (ubiquiti) seems to be targeted for IT pros. There's a lot of talk about having to use the interface to get the switch to work. I'm hoping for a plug and play...
     
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    Ah, yes. I don't recall "out of the box" how the switch was configured, but I want to say it was just a dumb switch with auto-sense PoE. Regardless, the controller software is only required when you want to change something. You can load it on a computer, connect to the switch, make your configuration changes, then shut it down. No problem.

    ...although you do get a lot of fun data if you leave it running, which is why I do that.
     
  10. c3k

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    Damn. Because of you guys, I've now got a plan to replace every piece of networking hardware with UniFi systems. This is going to get expensive... :)

    Off to place an order.

    Thanks.
     
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    If you don't have a dedicated computer/VM for the UniFi Controller, check out the Cloud Key!
     
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    Lol, came in here to recommend the 8 port unifi (I have one sitting in on a shelf since I upgraded to a 500W 24-port unifi) and see that I have been beaten by about a dozen people. Cloud key is easy as well, poe plug and go. I did my switches and APs via ubiquiti, so it's nice to manage in one place (my router is still a netgate 1u pfsense box, so it's got it's own interface).

    When you get the unifi switch, just make sure you upgrade the firmware. That should tone down the fan noise quite a bit.
     
  13. elavanis

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    A little late but if you just plug the switch in and don't use the controller to configure it then it is a dumb switch with poe. You loose the manage functionality but that sounds like something you don't need a the moment. Since you said you were replacing everything though it nice to know you can create vlans to separate everything out. I have 3 ssid on my network with 3 different vlans. The Main which contains my computers, IoT which contain all of my internet of things devices that use local access for control, and Guest which is used for guests and my IoT devices that connect to the cloud for control. The guest network is configured to only allow access to the internet and blocks access to any other device. I did take the cisco CCNA which is their most basic level of networking so I'm at least familiar with the terminology and the concepts. That said unify controller does a good job of making it easy. Case and point is the configuration for the Guest network to block access to other devices and only allow internet access is a checkbox.

    There are some good channels on youtube though that can help walk you through setting it all up.
    Crosstalk Solutions & Willie Howe

     
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