EbolaZaire
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I've been toying around with the idea of actively cooling the water in the water-cooled setup that I'm going to build, there's several ways I could go about cooling the water but let's assume for the moment that I have something cooling the water to such a point that condensation would be present on the lines.
Idea 1 - What if I used some material other than tygon as the tubing? Suppose there was some sort of unobtanium tubing that had a heat conductance of 0, that is to say that the tubing conducts no heat. Wouldn't this prevent condensation from building up on the tubing as the tubing wouldn't "sweat" at all?
Does such unobtanium tubing exist, and if it does exist could one use it for an application such as this? I figure there must be something like this or else it'd be impossible to run liquid nitrogen through a tube without heat transfer destroying the tube via expansion of the liquid nitrogen.
Idea 2 - What if I completely sealed the computer case so that there was only one hole through which air could enter and only one hole through which air could exit with a moisture trap placed inline? Suppose that such a task of sealing was feasible (which I'm not too certain of at the moment) and I essentially had a closed loop environment where all the air entering the case was air that had exited the case and passed through the moisture trap.
The moisture trap I have in mind is like those used in hospitals; a cylinder filled with moisture trapping beads (in the OR version the beads turn from blue to red as they become hydrated and can be recharged by microwaving them).
So in this situation I would run the air loop until all the moisture had been removed and then I'd start the computer with the chilled water in normal tygon tubes. As there'd be no moisture in the loop (and any moisture that entered the system would hypothetically be removed via the moisture trap) would there be any concern with condensation forming on the tubes of the water loop? Would any condensation that did form be sucked up into the moisture trap before it dripped off the line and wrecked havoc on the electronics?
Or am I going about this all wrong? Is there a simple way to run a chilled water system that I've overlooked? Or is it just an effort in futility to run a water chilled setup because of better alternatives/complexity and danger?
What was conveyed to me is that a chilled water setup is not worth the effort because you have to insulate the lines against condensation as well as the blocks and that I'd be better off running peltiers between the water blocks and then just insulating them.
How does one go about insulating a peltier, is there a diagram/mspaint image that would make the simplicity of such a task self-evident? Are you insulating the borders of the interface between the peltier and the chip just around the edges or do you need a layer of insulation between the peltier and the chip which seems stupid to me...?
Idea 1 - What if I used some material other than tygon as the tubing? Suppose there was some sort of unobtanium tubing that had a heat conductance of 0, that is to say that the tubing conducts no heat. Wouldn't this prevent condensation from building up on the tubing as the tubing wouldn't "sweat" at all?
Does such unobtanium tubing exist, and if it does exist could one use it for an application such as this? I figure there must be something like this or else it'd be impossible to run liquid nitrogen through a tube without heat transfer destroying the tube via expansion of the liquid nitrogen.
Idea 2 - What if I completely sealed the computer case so that there was only one hole through which air could enter and only one hole through which air could exit with a moisture trap placed inline? Suppose that such a task of sealing was feasible (which I'm not too certain of at the moment) and I essentially had a closed loop environment where all the air entering the case was air that had exited the case and passed through the moisture trap.
The moisture trap I have in mind is like those used in hospitals; a cylinder filled with moisture trapping beads (in the OR version the beads turn from blue to red as they become hydrated and can be recharged by microwaving them).
So in this situation I would run the air loop until all the moisture had been removed and then I'd start the computer with the chilled water in normal tygon tubes. As there'd be no moisture in the loop (and any moisture that entered the system would hypothetically be removed via the moisture trap) would there be any concern with condensation forming on the tubes of the water loop? Would any condensation that did form be sucked up into the moisture trap before it dripped off the line and wrecked havoc on the electronics?
Or am I going about this all wrong? Is there a simple way to run a chilled water system that I've overlooked? Or is it just an effort in futility to run a water chilled setup because of better alternatives/complexity and danger?
What was conveyed to me is that a chilled water setup is not worth the effort because you have to insulate the lines against condensation as well as the blocks and that I'd be better off running peltiers between the water blocks and then just insulating them.
How does one go about insulating a peltier, is there a diagram/mspaint image that would make the simplicity of such a task self-evident? Are you insulating the borders of the interface between the peltier and the chip just around the edges or do you need a layer of insulation between the peltier and the chip which seems stupid to me...?