Photoshopping Adult Porn Nets Man 10-Year Sentence

[Blank-Minded]

You guys are aware that showing pornography to a child is in itself a crime, right? Like, the photoshop is not the only offense he committed. Also, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that telling her that he plans on fucking her also constitutes abuse.

What I am saying is that ol' dude would be seeing jail time even if he didn't photoshop his sister's head onto that lady's body.

Quite frankly, I think the court acted well within the context of the law to put a dangerous predator behind bars where he can't do that little girl no harm.

 

[Blank-Minded]

Must be a false memory. Has the SCOTUS ruled on this? I'm not sure how you can prove a drawing is of minors. I've seen 14 year olds that look 20 and 20 year olds that look 14 (or younger in some cases). Hell I once saw a woman in a bar that I initially thought was 13.

SCOTUS has dealt with this issue multiple times. It is considered a gray area. Sometimes cartoon depictions is treated like a crime, sometimes not. The US Government does not like it but is having a hard time drawing a line.

There does seem to be a major overlap between those who just collect cartoon porn and those who go after the real thing.

 

[Taldren]

Do any of you "well he doesn't deserve THIS" guys have a eleven year-old daughter?

This is why you don't get to decide, you can't look at anything without involving yourself emotionally. The punishment is supposed to match the crime ... not the imaginary crime that could have occurred to your daughter.

 

[Taldren]

You guys are aware that showing pornography to a child is in itself a crime, right? Like, the photoshop is not the only offense he committed. Also, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that telling her that he plans on fucking her also constitutes abuse.

What I am saying is that ol' dude would be seeing jail time even if he didn't photoshop his sister's head onto that lady's body.

Quite frankly, I think the court acted well within the context of the law to put a dangerous predator behind bars where he can't do that little girl no harm.

Great, I agree that jail time should be dispensed for this, but put him behind bars for the correct crimes ... not the ones you 'think' he intended. That president is bad for everyone.

 

[Exavior]

Great, I agree that jail time should be dispensed for this, but put him behind bars for the correct crimes ... not the ones you 'think' he intended. That president is bad for everyone.

He told her he was going to fuck her. not much "thinking" there. He was just stopped before he could rape her. So start there and then tack on all the things he did do that are illegal which are creating what in the eyes of the law are child porn and then distributing said child porn to the person he planned to rape.

 

[HFBallad]

I don't get it.
Ok, I understand that pedophiles exist. But why impose a face of a child on an adult body? Aren't pedophiles attracted to children's bodies? What was this guy trying to accomplish?

 

[arnemetis]

I don't get it.
Ok, I understand that pedophiles exist. But why impose a face of a child on an adult body? Aren't pedophiles attracted to children's bodies? What was this guy trying to accomplish?

He made it to send to the victim to illustrate what he wanted to do to her, so I'm guessing it was more for suggestive purposes for the girl to see, and less for him to look at.

 

[bAMtan2]

the saddest part is how without a real mental health system, he'll just get more fucked up in jail, and then when he's finally out he'll build a fuck dungeon with barney sex dolls and get a day job as a birthday clown

 

[dgz]

Do any of you "well he doesn't deserve THIS" guys have a eleven year-old daughter? You'd be fine with the incestuous offender getting off without significant jail time? Any parent would be liable to beat the shit out of the guy and want him behind bars, so it's clear you don't have kids.

I understand being offended by the "moral high horse" people in the thread but honestly when you say something stupid like "probation and counseling is good enough," you need to realize it's a bit like a guy holding a strong opinion on abortion: you're not the central part of the debate.

Oh, yes. Of course! "Do you have children" - the ultimate excuse of a mad man possessed by his feelings What you have in mind is literally the opposite of justice.

Fuck you sir for thinking having sex with your 11 year old sister should be ok and that us that don't think so have fake morals.

Please quote me saying any of that bullshit you fucking idiot. It's not me who's auto shutting down his brain because a child is involved in a terrible situation. You don't even realize you're promoting a thought crime only because a young girl is involved.

And remember people. This is hardly a child pr0n. Age of consent is 13 years in Japan and 14 in most of the world. This girl is 11. Still no there but hardly 5. Fake morals indeed.

 

[DarkStar02]

exactly.

If they wanted to jail the guy, they should have started a real investigation and waited / caught him actually doing something illegal. Context or not, people shouldn't be jailed for only THINKING things. Truly ridiculous. Let's not make the act of 'thinking' illegal.

He sent naked photoshopped pictures to a kid... Isn't sending pornography to a child a crime in itself?

 

[DarkStar02]

And remember people. This is hardly a child pr0n. Age of consent is 13 years in Japan and 14 in most of the world. This girl is 11. Still no there but hardly 5. Fake morals indeed.

This guy is a pedo for sure.

 

[MindBuster]

 

[Exavior]

This guy is a pedo for sure.

yup

Like how is defense is bringing up a country where woman get sexually assaulted / raped every day in public and that is considered ok as a place with better morals.

 

[Ducman69]

yup

Like how is defense is bringing up a country where woman get sexually assaulted / raped every day in public and that is considered ok as a place with better morals.

Age of consent is 14 in Germany... not too many rapes in what is the most economically prosperous countries in Europe.

 

[Ducman69]

Oh wait, I missed the "11 year old part" of the comment, yeah that's not legal anywhere. That's only OK if you're a middle eastern prophet.

 

[Exavior]

Age of consent is 14 in Germany... not too many rapes in what is the most economically prosperous countries in Europe.

Oh wait, I missed the "11 year old part" of the comment, yeah that's not legal anywhere. That's only OK if you're a middle eastern prophet.

My comment was about Japan. Where woman are sexually assaulted on public transportation and nothing can / is done about it.

 

[wabbitseason]

Overreach. The guy is scum, but you can't invent punishments for creepy acts. The appropriate sentence would have been the absolute maximum for sending a child pornographic content and mentally abusing her.

This kind of disgusting but pseudo-legal behavior should really be pursued and punished by the community. Unfortunately, individual communities of mutual self-interest don't really exist anymore in our "diverse, globalized utopia".

 

[wabbitseason]

And remember people. This is hardly a child pr0n. Age of consent is 13 years in Japan and 14 in most of the world. This girl is 11. Still no there but hardly 5. Fake morals indeed.

Wow, you been talking to mohammad (peace be upon him, death to the nonbeliever, 9 year olds are great to lust after, etc)?

An 11 year old is a fucking child. A 14 year old girl is practically a woman by comparison.

 

[dgz]

My comment was about Japan. Where woman are sexually assaulted on public transportation and nothing can / is done about it.

Countless videos of it happening are hardly nothing.

Wow, you been talking to mohammad (peace be upon him, death to the nonbeliever, 9 year olds are great to lust after, etc)?

An 11 year old is a fucking child. A 14 year old girl is practically a woman by comparison.

Shit, man. Label me as pedophile as that guy up there and put me in jail because I don't lose my mind over rape that never actually happened. There's a world of difference between 11 and 14, though I associate pedophilia with small children, not early teens. Anyway, fuck it. I better shut up now.

 

[Gorankar]

You can't win. They shut their minds down, grab their pitchforks and follow their "feelings" whenever this topic is brought up. Change the topic enough to get their feelings out of it, and it would look the same way to them as it does to you.
Let's make it Photoshopping her face on a dead body, and "this is what I am going to do to you.", and it would turn into what it should have been from the start. A grownup harassing/threatening a preteen. There would be no lifetime on the sex offenders list or decade in prison. There would be a restraining order, fines, and probation, and maybe counseling.

I think the guy is a dirt bag too, but aside from sexually harassing/threatening a preteen, and likely having really bad intentions, I don't see any crime. A decade in jail/lifetime sex offender's list is too much when not a hair on her head, or anywhere else, was harmed.

 

[michael.pa2]

Countless videos of it happening are hardly nothing.



Shit, man. Label me as pedophile as that guy up there and put me in jail because I don't lose my mind over rape that never actually happened. There's a world of difference between 11 and 14, though I associate pedophilia with small children, not early teens. Anyway, fuck it. I better shut up now.

You should have shut up long ago,we now know where your mind is at,and it's not a good place.

 

[Gorankar]

Any attempt at rational discussion is met with allegations of pedophilia, or hebephilia. LOL.

 

[Ducman69]

Any attempt at rational discussion is met with allegations of pedophilia, or hebephilia. LOL.

Well, and that's why the sentence is usually quite absurd, because who is going to come to their defense? Any request for leniency will be seen as a promotion of pedophilia.

 

[HyperMinimalism]

That guy is an effing idiot. Send him to jail.

 

[nilepez]

SCOTUS has dealt with this issue multiple times. It is considered a gray area. Sometimes cartoon depictions is treated like a crime, sometimes not. The US Government does not like it but is having a hard time drawing a line.

There does seem to be a major overlap between those who just collect cartoon porn and those who go after the real thing.

I just don't see how you can make a drawing illegal, which isn't the same as telling giving an 11 year old a porn picture (with or without her face on a body) and a note implying you're going to fuck him/her.

 

[nilepez]

I don't get it.
Ok, I understand that pedophiles exist. But why impose a face of a child on an adult body? Aren't pedophiles attracted to children's bodies? What was this guy trying to accomplish?

Maybe he intended to wait a few years. He likes 'em young but he wants T&A too. I don't know. I really don't know how anyone that's 28 and not mentally deficient could send such an image to a little kid over the internet. If every pedophile was this stupid, they'd all be in jail.

 

[nilepez]

the saddest part is how without a real mental health system, he'll just get more fucked up in jail, and then when he's finally out he'll build a fuck dungeon with barney sex dolls and get a day job as a birthday clown

Assuming he's a pedophile (not proven), I'm under the impression that there's no cure (but I guess I should research it before posting it....oh well cat's out of the bag).

 

[heatlesssun]

Assuming he's a pedophile (not proven), I'm under the impression that there's no cure (but I guess I should research it before posting it....oh well cat's out of the bag).

Wow. For a crowd that's supposedly knows everything about everything, it's amazing the simple things that seem to be beyond it. In men pedophilia is pretty easy to detect. Hook them up to a peter meter, give then child porn and look for an erection. It's that simple. In considerably more difficult to detect in women because they don't have peters.

 

[Exavior]

Maybe he intended to wait a few years. He likes 'em young but he wants T&A too. I don't know. I really don't know how anyone that's 28 and not mentally deficient could send such an image to a little kid over the internet. If every pedophile was this stupid, they'd all be in jail.

Lets assume for a minute that your crazy thought is correct and he was just telling her in a few years this will be me and you. IT IS STILL HIS SISTER

the lengths at which you guys are trying to justify why a 28 year old should be allowed to fuck his 11 year old sister, or to tell her that he is going to fuck her is crazy. I hope that none of you have young sisters or daughters.

 

[serpretetsky]

the saddest part is how without a real mental health system, he'll just get more fucked up in jail, and then when he's finally out he'll build a fuck dungeon with barney sex dolls and get a day job as a birthday clown

I think this guy needs some mental help and not a 10-year ticket to a state pen on the taxpayer's dime.

agreed.

Wow. For a crowd that's supposedly knows everything about everything, it's amazing the simple things that seem to be beyond it. In men pedophilia is pretty easy to detect. Hook them up to a peter meter, give then child porn and look for an erection. It's that simple. In considerably more difficult to detect in women because they don't have peters.

That doesn't get us any closer to finding a "cure" as referenced in the original quote you are replying to.

 

[Kelby]

Quick! Someone put boobies on a sperm cell. Then we can take bets on how fast the site goes down.

 

[Ducman69]

That doesn't get us any closer to finding a "cure" as referenced in the original quote you are replying to.

Hook them up to the peter meter, show normal porn, then electrocute their balls with 240 volts whenever a kiddie porn picture pops up. Just like the dog experiments where they rang a bell before every mealtime, causing dogs to salivate at the sound of a bell, this will cause a programmed negative reaction. Voila. Lead acid batteries and jumper cables are cheap too.

Or the Japanese can just hurry up and make them all sexbot wives that look like Krieger's child bride from Archer.

 

[lcpiper]

I agree, it's not really kiddie-porn, but since bending the law is ok cause this guy is such a douche i suggest they just drag his ass out back and put a bullet in his head, who's up for that?

 

[beowulf7]

That guy is an effing idiot. Send him to jail.

Brilliant. Send him to an overcrowded prison system for an alleged "crime" that didn't hurt anyone. One can say it was his artistic/freedom of expression But apparently that doesn't exist in NE.

 

[TwistedAegis]

FFS. This girl probably has her period already. I am not defending this guy but I am equally disgusted by people like YOU who label themselves "normal" which, of course, gives them right to judge others using fake morals.

You're not defending him, but wait, what? Wtf does some biological function not linked in any way to adult brain function have to do with him photoshopping her face and threatening her with rape over the internet?

Overreach. The guy is scum, but you can't invent punishments for creepy acts. The appropriate sentence would have been the absolute maximum for sending a child pornographic content and mentally abusing her.

This kind of disgusting but pseudo-legal behavior should really be pursued and punished by the community. Unfortunately, individual communities of mutual self-interest don't really exist anymore in our "diverse, globalized utopia".

"Creepy acts"? Threatening someone constitutes a crime, not a "creepy act". The fact that you think this is in the realms of legal behavior...pretty shocked at how many people would just shake their head and walk away from this guyl.

You can't win. They shut their minds down, grab their pitchforks and follow their "feelings" whenever this topic is brought up. Change the topic enough to get their feelings out of it, and it would look the same way to them as it does to you.
Let's make it Photoshopping her face on a dead body, and "this is what I am going to do to you.", and it would turn into what it should have been from the start. A grownup harassing/threatening a preteen. There would be no lifetime on the sex offenders list or decade in prison. There would be a restraining order, fines, and probation, and maybe counseling.

I think the guy is a dirt bag too, but aside from sexually harassing/threatening a preteen, and likely having really bad intentions, I don't see any crime. A decade in jail/lifetime sex offender's list is too much when not a hair on her head, or anywhere else, was harmed.

So photoshopping the girls face onto a dead body and saying he was going to kill her, to you, would not have gotten any jail time? That goes well beyond dirtbag status and into felony.

Any attempt at rational discussion is met with allegations of pedophilia, or hebephilia. LOL.

See above. You're completely irrational on this.

http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-01/43-threats-of-violence.html

 

[Exavior]

Brilliant. Send him to an overcrowded prison system for an alleged "crime" that didn't hurt anyone. One can say it was his artistic/freedom of expression But apparently that doesn't exist in NE.

I am not an 11 year old girl. But I would think my brother sending me a picture with my face on the body of a woman engaged in sex and a message saying this is what he is going to do to me, I think I would have some emotional damage.

You don't just one day decide I am going to put my sister's face on this porn and send it to her telling her that I am going to do this to her just because you felt like making a picture. You have been sick in the head thinking about it for awhile, who knows if he might have tried something in the past with her.

 

[Megalith]

Call me crazy, but I think a crime of intent should only net you some form of monetary punishment and being placed on a watchlist.

This ain't Minority Report.

 

[Ducman69]

Call me crazy, but I think a crime of intent should only net you some form of monetary punishment and being placed on a watchlist.

This ain't Minority Report.

We've had crimes of intent for ages. If you say you're going to kill somebody or "burn the building down", unless its obvious its just a joke, then you're pretty much screwed. The only defense would be if he could somehow prove it was just a joke and they have a sick sense of humor like that.

 

[wabbitseason]

"Creepy acts"? Threatening someone constitutes a crime, not a "creepy act". The fact that you think this is in the realms of legal behavior...pretty shocked at how many people would just shake their head and walk away from this guyl.

Well, if you'd read a bit further..

"The appropriate sentence would have been the absolute maximum for sending a child pornographic content and mentally abusing her."

 

[TwistedAegis]

We've had crimes of intent for ages. If you say you're going to kill somebody or "burn the building down", unless its obvious its just a joke, then you're pretty much screwed. The only defense would be if he could somehow prove it was just a joke and they have a sick sense of humor like that.

Right, and the threat was compounded further by the crime of sending porn to a minor and potentially the second crime of putting the minor victim's face on said porn.

It's like mailing a flamethrower to someone's house and saying, "Soon this will be you", not just drunkenly telling some guy at a bar a ridiculous implausible threat like, "I'm gonna fly a spaceship into your house!"