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Just been informed, it should be either shipping 27 Feb, or Delivered 27 Feb. (Google Translate was inconclusive)
from what website to your place? US or UK?
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Just been informed, it should be either shipping 27 Feb, or Delivered 27 Feb. (Google Translate was inconclusive)
You don't need to order from korea, you can order from the EU. The price ends up being similar and everything (Suspect 900$ should cover everything).
I would buy one of these, but the last display I purchased from Korea on eBay had serious problems. I ended up selling it and taking a loss of ~$200.
Being that it appears this display isn't going to be released in the US, I'll probably end up buying the Seiki.
I wouldn't rule out a US release just yet.
http://www.pcgamer.com/philips-bdm4065uc-monitor-review/
"The Philips BDM4065UC is though a bit tricky to get hold of at the moment, though we are assured the US release is on track for Q1 this year."
Keep in mind that was posted over a month ago so timelines may have changed.
Is anyone running two of these side-by-side and can share a picture and post comments? I'm looking to replace a (3) 30" 2560x1600 setup.
I've been reading the thread and see a lot of talk about VESA mounts being irregular screws (M4), I was wondering if anyone has a specific recommendation on a very high quality stand that includes the necessary hardware that fully supports this monitor.
I'm in the United States, do you know where I should buy it from the EU? I'm checking out the Italian site Hw1.it right now.
but why are there horizontal stripes anyway?
According to TFTCentral this monitor has an input lag (signal processing + lag) of ~23ms. Is this 'ok' for moderate competative gaming?
I hope it is, I have already ordered the monitor.
TFT Central also provided a class rating with that measurement. That response time puts it in their Class 2 category, which they say is fine for general gaming.
When you say "General Gaming" do they mean Farmville and Solitare or do they mean Far Cry 4 and Dying Light? The term General Gaming leaves a lot to be answered. While I am not a gamer for money like some people are, I am a competitive gamer personally with games like BF4 and Combat Arms. Does this "General Gaming" category mean it will be fine for gamers like me or grandma who wants to play mahjong?
When you say "General Gaming" do they mean Farmville and Solitare or do they mean Far Cry 4 and Dying Light? The term General Gaming leaves a lot to be answered. While I am not a gamer for money like some people are, I am a competitive gamer personally with games like BF4 and Combat Arms. Does this "General Gaming" category mean it will be fine for gamers like me or grandma who wants to play mahjong?
But the good news is alas the max the board in the panel can handle is 75hz @ 1080p and 70hz @ 4k. I would still call that a win in any sense of the word .
Thank you for a preliminary answer to my question about max refresh rate at 1080p resolutions.
You should try using 24AWG Display port cable. like this.
It may sound preposterous on my part, buy you did check your results taking photos of the UFOtest, right? Nothing worst than believing that a given monitor can overclock, when UFOtest shows that it is simply skipping frames.
http://www.testufo.com/#test=frameskipping
When you say "General Gaming" do they mean Farmville and Solitare or do they mean Far Cry 4 and Dying Light? The term General Gaming leaves a lot to be answered. While I am not a gamer for money like some people are, I am a competitive gamer personally with games like BF4 and Combat Arms. Does this "General Gaming" category mean it will be fine for gamers like me or grandma who wants to play mahjong?
What if sum1 plays mahjog for money?
Anyways I guess this should be fine. I am a competative gamer, as in I play alot on Starcraft 2 ladder, Left 4 Dead 2 confogl, CSGO and I always want to get high rank/better etc. But I don't play for money.
In that sense I guess it should be fine.
I think its worth mentioning that Phillips is very stupid for not releasing this monitor in the US, and they probably lost millions by taking so long to do so. A lot of people were looking forward to this, but due to the delays will probably go for other options.
If this had come out in Dec like it did in Europe I would already have 1 or 2, but given the company's obvious incompetence, I think I will go for the Acer or perhaps an Asus since those company's actually make an effort to please their customers.
If Phillips is constrained by supply (which they seem to be), they make the same amount of money if they're selling BDM4065UCs in one region or all over the world. They're still selling all of the monitors that they can make. There really aren't any competing monitors in the US, so Phillips hasn't lost anything.
That makes sense, but there are competing monitors, just not in that size. If LG or Samsung does the same thing (convert TV to monitor), Phillips will have no chance at getting a foothold in the US market. You can be damn sure they don't produce tiny amounts of an item that's in high demand. Most companies these days do their research and upscale their facilities before releasing a game changing product.
Hi, I made this account specifically because of the incorrect information people have been giving about 60hz refresh rate. If you are an average player it will probably not effect you that much, BUT if you are good then you will definitely notice a difference. Players way below professional level are limited by the refresh rate of their monitors.
Why are monitors so far behind TV's in terms of cost and image quality? Most industries don't take 5 years to adapt the latest technology. We should already have quantum dot 45inch 4k monitors at 60hz for $500, instead we have ancient TN panels in most new releases and almost never over 30 inches. Why is it so hard to convert TV tech to monitors? I had a CRT in 1997 with 1440p and better colors than anything I have seen from LCDs, so basicly technology has gone nowhere in almost 20 years except decreased the size of the box the screen is held in.
If Phillips is constrained by supply (which they seem to be), they make the same amount of money if they're selling BDM4065UCs in one region or all over the world. They're still selling all of the monitors that they can make. There really aren't any competing monitors in the US, so Phillips hasn't lost anything.
that's not true. Seiki is out for pre-sale at amazon. So if philips doesn't want the $ from consumers, then people will move to Seiki. They are both 1 yr. warranty anyway
It's always a noticeable difference, it's even noticeable in normal desktop use, but it's not going to make you lose or win games, it's extremely unlikely for the skill between players and all the other far bigger factors to be so balanced that the monitor is actually the factor that is going to make the difference.
Matches between professional players are OFC far better balanced, so this difference plays a bigger part in the equation, which is why people usually say that unless you are playing professionally you can go with 4k 60hz, since if you are not playing professionally, it is very likely that image quality is of some importance for you.
Not that 120hz doesn't affect the viewing experience in that way too, but that is currently tied to crappy panels, and inferior resolutions, so one can easily make the case that as far as image quality goes, the 4k 60hz in this quality level is preferable.
When it comes to the actual playing experience this is OFC far more arguable.
In short Economies of scale.
No one was lining up to buy 30/40" 1080p TV's to use as monitors, since they are honestly pretty terrible for that, the PPI is pure and simply awful, anything bellow that resolution was usually reserved for not so great panels since there wasn't that big of a market for high end or even good quality 24" TV's. This before taking into account possible problems with image retention, high lag, which while not present in all TV's, are certainly far more common in the TV space (they are a smaller problem for TV use).
I suspect most people didn't really thought how 4k would actually change this, and even if you were to think of this and you were in the TV/Panel making business, you would still need to convince the people in charge that a 40" Monitor using a panel you were going to make for a TV, was something with enough market to be worth the trouble, which was/is likely a problem on itself.
Now that Philips has proven (or is proving) the concept, I suspect we will see an increasing number of Panels made for TV's coming to monitors, which likely means we will see the quality/price gap decrease relatively soon, assuming that the 40" (or lower) TV's continue to have a strong enough market presence to justify high quality panels.