PCIe or SATA III for new build?

Discussion in 'SSDs & Data Storage' started by Spaceye, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Spaceye

    Spaceye n00bie

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    Looking for suggestions for a dedicated ssd for windows 10.

    PCIe SSD?

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JCXXQ0Q/?tag=tec06d-20

    OR SATA III?

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LZ09A68/?tag=tec06d-20





    PARTS 4 NEW Build:

    Windows 10 Pro

    Monitor:
    Dell 43" 4k Multi-Client Monitor (P4317Q)


    CASE:
    NZXT Phantom 820 Computer Case

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009QZH23S/?tag=tec06d-20

    MOBO:
    ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero AMD Ryzen AM4


    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06W2L6GBX/?tag=tec06d-20

    CPU:
    AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Processor

    (might go with 1800x for the extra 200mhz boost)

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06WP5YCX6/?tag=tec06d-20


    RAM:
    Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0143UM4TC/?tag=tec06d-20

    GPU:

    2 GTX 960's (From old PC, planning on upgrading when a new series of nvidia gpu comes out)

    SSD:
    Plextor M8Pe 128GB HHHL PCIe NVMe Internal Solid-State Drive with Heatsink

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JCXXQ0Q/?tag=tec06d-20

    Storage:
    1T WD Caviar Drive, 3T Seagate backup plus & 4T seagate personal external HDs

    PSU: (Already bought)


    CPU COOLER:

    Still deciding on a water cooler...suggestions are welcome.
     
  2. FnordMan

    FnordMan [H]ard|Gawd

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    None of the above? The linked motherboard has a m.2 slot, why use a bulky, expensive PCIe card when you can get a much smaller m.2 drive and still have it be PCIe? The 250Gig 960 Evo can be gotten for about the same price as the plextor you linked.
     
  3. mls1995

    mls1995 2[H]4U

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    agree, use an m.2 slot.
     
  4. DMFD-Minister

    DMFD-Minister Limp Gawd

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    As others have said M.2

    Same speed as PCIe
    Smaller form factor
    Probably costs less

    Small Edit:

    M.2 really only has advantage in MB/s. For day to day operations, you won't notice much of a difference. I have a very similar build and I'm going with 2xSamsung 850 EVO 500GB drives.
     
  5. Simplyfun

    Simplyfun Limp Gawd

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    The thing I really like about M.2 is that it just pops on the system board out of the way.

    The thing I really hate about M.2 is that it's stuck down there on the system board.
     
  6. Grimlaking

    Grimlaking [H]ard|Gawd

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    Go with an M.2 NVME drive. It's worth it and your board has the slot. I love mine.
     
  7. Spaceye

    Spaceye n00bie

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    guess cuz i just like the look of the plextor and I dont mind that its a little bulky.

    If price wasnt really a factor which one would you guys get as a dedicated steam drive (for gaming)?

    M.2 or PCIe and why other than the size?
     
  8. arestavo

    arestavo Gawd

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    SATA III SSD - because for game load times and Windows boot times there isn't a difference between a good SATA III SSD and the fastest NVME drive in the world. We are hard up against other limiting factors including game queue depths (of 1 or 2, not deep queue depths) and file system formats (NTFS is ancient and slow).

    Scroll to the bottom of the first post for professional reviews that show the same results - https://hardforum.com/threads/nvme-...a-iii-ssd-game-load-time-comparisons.1911914/
     
  9. Gulvan

    Gulvan n00bie

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    There was a video I saw a while ago that basically said that it isn't worth it right now for NVMEs as, at most, you save minimal time vs the money.
     
  10. Grimlaking

    Grimlaking [H]ard|Gawd

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    For me it was worth while. I went from a 2600k i7 at stock speeds, with a Gigabyte 1070gtx video card, 16 gigs of ram, and a Samsung 840 pro 500gb drive. To what I have in my sig. Night and day... Yes load times inside of games are quicker but I did an across the board upgrade. If you are liable to have some buyers remourse later and plan on keeping it for 5+ years... NVMe is worth while. If you plan on replacing your disk subsystem, incrimentally over the years... then get a fast SSD and wait for more to take advantage of PCIE speed storage.
     
  11. 4330thgink

    4330thgink Gawd

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    M.2 for operating system, swapfile, and whatever programs you can fit on it(depending on what size you get).

    Then for storage, use whatever floats your boat.


    I have my OS, swapfile, and main programs on my M.2. Then everything else is stored on RAID 10 spinners(thats what I had already), plus a couple single standalone drives.
     
  12. cybereality

    cybereality [H]ard|Gawd

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    Yeah, definitely get an M.2 drive. They are worlds faster, even than a high-end SATA SSD.

    I've been using the Samsung 960 Evo, which seems good. Also recently got a Corsair Force MP500 which I also recommend.