Over 200 Pages of Internal Facebook Communications are Released

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  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas Gawd Staff Member

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    The UK Parliament published over 200 pages of internal Facebook emails they recently seized, and media outlets all over the world are picking through them. Among other things, the BBC points out the documents revealed that Netflix, Badoo, Lyft, and Airbnb all used Facebook friend data to "enhance" their services. The company made a deliberate decision to shut down API access to Vine, Twitter's video sharing service, discussed Android call log reading, and discussed membership fees and the possibility of data leaks. Facebook posted a response to the leak, claiming that Six4Three "cherrypicked" the documents for a lawsuit.

    The following is from a discussion in which Mark Zuckerberg mulled the idea of selling developers access to users' friends' data. It is dated October 2012, pre-dating the quiz involved in the Cambridge Analytica scandal. It was sent to Sam Mullin, who was vice president of product management. Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook chief executive): "It's not at all clear to me here that we have a model that will actually make us the revenue we want at scale. I'm getting more on board with locking down some parts of platform, including friends' data and potentially email addresses for mobile apps. I'm generally sceptical that there is as much data leak strategic risk as you think... I think we leak info to developers but I just can't think of any instances where that data has leaked from developer to developer and caused a real issue for us."
     
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    BSmith [H]ard|Gawd

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    Nothing in there surprised me at all. I cannot imagine it would surprise anyone.

    The thing is, most people will not care. Every social media site, in the world, which makes money, is selling data or access to data. How else are they going to make all the money they report to make? Soooo,...meh.
     
  3. ir0nw0lf

    ir0nw0lf [H]ardness Supreme

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    Are lawyers salivating like dogs in front of a big juicy steak right about now? :p
     
  4. GNUse_the_force

    GNUse_the_force Limp Gawd

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    i kind of hope so. FB and data mining in general has gone waay too far over the line.
     
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    How fortunate i have no friends online, with the way i look at the use of that word thats pretty much a no go.
    I have a lot of people i lovingly call my internet friends ( for my ease ) thats people that seem nice and i would like to meet to see if thats true, but i can not call a person i have never seen or meet regularly a friend.

    IRL i just have 1 friend, and 10 or so people out of my family i look upon the same way.

    Google probably mine my e mail and phone contacts and call them friends, but that say more about google than about me, and also there you will not find many persons but probably a lot of web shops ASO.
     
  6. SomeoneElse

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    Which brings up a good point and the says "whats Free is not actually Free " Somehow someone is paying for it. In this case you pay for it by having your data and privacy sold to someone else.
     
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    When you aren't paying for the product, you are the product.
     
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    tetris42 [H]ardness Supreme

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    This saying is become increasingly meaningless, since many online services make PAYING people the product as well. Same goes for tertiary people who have nothing to do with the product directly, but know someone who does. It's more like everyone has become a product at all times.
     
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    Facebook sucks. I read through about 20 pages and that is insane! They need to be shut down. Sadly, they won't.
     
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    I activated a FB account right after they came online back in the day, my thought was for name reservation. To this day I'd only posted one picture, just deleted my account so they'd have one less account they can brag about.
     
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    Is that not how it should work ?
     
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  12. Twisted Kidney

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    I certainly don't disagree. Even with my total absence from their platform aside from my company, I'm sure Facebook has a pretty decent profile of me. I'd be willing to bet same goes for many other people as well. The point remains that this is a "free" service that people are providing enormous amounts of data to without fully understanding the practices of the company. The initial source of data is the people using their platform and sharing data about their lives, it just so happens that they unknowingly helped set up a profile of the friends they mention on their profiles as well.

    Regulation is coming, people will bitch because gubmint and all that but it's coming. They might avoid regulation in non democratic countries, but it will come everywhere else. They refused to keep their house in order so thousands, even millions of self-righteous bureaucrats are about to come-a knocking.
     
  13. BSmith

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    You also pay for it in the products you buy because the money sites get for selling data is not drawn from vapor. Basically, you are giving them money and your data.

    Think about it. Marketing firms pay for that data, but they do it so they can sell it to companies who want to advertise. The companies that buy the data, pass that cost along with the cost of the service/product. And who buys that service/product?

    Helluva deal.
     
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    If you have 3 murders, and choose to prosecute the one you have the most evidence on, is it really cherrypicking?
     
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    It's a ridiculous statement from Facebook. Obviously when/if this goes to court, the entire leak would be compelled into evidence. So really just lip service from FB.
     
  16. TheBuzzer

    TheBuzzer HACK THE WORLD!

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    yes this happens in all lawsuits.
     
  17. AtomClock

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    The criminal (Or at least what should be criminal) is that Facebook tracks people that don't even have Facebook accounts.
     
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    Most of the idiots on Facebook would have given the information themselves if they could play candy crush for free for an hour.