OpenZFS NAS (BSD, Illumos, Linux, OSX, Solaris, Windows + Storage Spaces) with napp-it web-gui

Yeah, i just su'd first then installed via the wget piped to perl command, no problems. (Standard GUI mode Solaris 11 Express install)
 
@Gea just a quick kudos once again for all the hard work here, and the tireless work on Napp-It. Lots of great information and tutorials. This thread really should have begun a lot sooner.
 
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+1 Gea, thanks much for the tutorials. I am going to try and make the jump soon to a new ZFS based server in an all-in-1 config with 18GB memory on my X8ST3-F and solaris express 11. I just ordered 8 of the new 5K3000's from amazon today so I can transition my windows RAID storage pretty easily.
 
Yes, I was root. This happened with openindiana and solaris express 11. I noticed scrolling by, also, several '403 forbidden' messages (one was for the smartmon tools.) When did you do your insall, dailo? If it was not as recent, I wonder if something is broken since then?
 
weird, i used nappit with SE11 and nexenta. Works great with both.
 
No idea. These were text-mode installers I downloaded and burned. I am now trying nexentastor again - I have volume-check turned off, since that seems to be a culprit in running out of RAM. I also have 2GB of RAM coming in ASAP, to go from 2GB to 4GB.
 
You may be right. I had no idea not to use the text-mode stuff, since this was going to be a headless server, and nothing in the HOWTO indicated otherwise :(
 
danswartz said:
You may be right. I had no idea not to use the text-mode stuff, since this was going to be a headless server, and nothing in the HOWTO indicated otherwise :(
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It does not matter, if you use live or text/cli version.
napp-it is a pure web-application with its own webserver

But with OpenIndiana and SE11, i would always use the Live version
You can remote manage it's GUI via a VNC client. It is much more
comfortable and easy to use especially with basic settings and snap-access
via Time-Slider.

But you wrote something about smartmontools.
They are installed but not yet fully supported by a web-gui menu.
(you have to setup the config-files)

And a 403 error indicated, that there is a permission problem.
Please re-login to napp-it. It will restore needed permissions on each login

Gea
 
For the record I had no troubles with Solaris Express 11 TEXT MODE installer + Napp-It, in fact I preferred it, since I went from bare metal to finished in a few minutes.
 
In the upgrade to 0.415g (and now to 0.415h) I lost the ability to change the compression settings under the folder dialog

Screenshot of problem

Specifically when the property change window comes up there is no selection for the property (there was previously) - and when I hit save it doesn't seem to toggle anything. Dedup setting through the same dialog seems to work fine, and if I change the settings at the command line the status reflects correctly in the web interface.
 
ChrisBenn said:
In the upgrade to 0.415g (and now to 0.415h) I lost the ability to change the compression settings under the folder dialog

Screenshot of problem

Specifically when the property change window comes up there is no selection for the property (there was previously) - and when I hit save it doesn't seem to toggle anything. Dedup setting through the same dialog seems to work fine, and if I change the settings at the command line the status reflects correctly in the web interface.
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thanks for the info.
i can confirm the bug and will fix it with next nightly.

Gea
 
No, Gea, the 403 error occurred while it was trying to download and install some programs. I don't have the install now. I wish I knew why it failed for me but no one else twice on two different OS :(
 
I use external harddisks to make full backups of my NAS filesystem. When I migrate to ZFS from Linux md/ext4, I will be re-using the RAID drives meaning that I'm going to blow away the Linux filesystem and data currently on those disks during the migration. I need to use the external drives as my exchange media to get the important data back onto ZFS after the migration.

What local Linux filesystem format is supported by napp-it so that I am assured of a continuous migration path (ext2 /ext3 / ext4 / xfs/ NTFS)? I guess this obviously will depend upon the OS I choose as the basis for napp-it.

TIA,
- Robert
 
I"m going to try napp-it again with openindiana full-gui DVD as well as nexenta-core.
 
rbm said:
I use external harddisks to make full backups of my NAS filesystem. When I migrate to ZFS from Linux md/ext4, I will be re-using the RAID drives meaning that I'm going to blow away the Linux filesystem and data currently on those disks during the migration. I need to use the external drives as my exchange media to get the important data back onto ZFS after the migration.

What local Linux filesystem format is supported by napp-it so that I am assured of a continuous migration path (ext2 /ext3 / ext4 / xfs/ NTFS)? I guess this obviously will depend upon the OS I choose as the basis for napp-it.

TIA,
- Robert
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the easiest way:
plug your external backup disks to a mac or pc and copy your files to your backup disks and also back to your ZFS box via network.

Gea
 
danswartz said:
I"m going to try napp-it again with openindiana full-gui DVD as well as nexenta-core.
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if you try to download something from the internet with a 403 error, there is a problem with the remote internet-server or with a single page not with your local os.

Gea
 
_Gea said:
the easiest way:
plug your external backup disks to a mac or pc and copy your files to your backup disks and also back to your ZFS box via network.

Gea
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Thanks. Network restore is always a possibilty but Gigabit throughput pales in comparison to local 300 MB/s SATA speeds. So, are you saying that Linux filesystem support is nonexistant on Solaris11/Nexenta/OpenIndiana? I've seen bug reports on Nexenta forum related to this issue.
 
rbm said:
Thanks. Network restore is always a possibilty but Gigabit throughput pales in comparison to local 300 MB/s SATA speeds. So, are you saying that Linux filesystem support is nonexistant on Solaris11/Nexenta/OpenIndiana? I've seen bug reports on Nexenta forum related to this issue.
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it is not supported out of the box.
if you are try to go the hard way, google about fuse on Solaris

about Sata and 300 MB
You will hardly find a consumer disk, especially from the green and high
capacity ones and a NAS with a single disk, that can outperform GigaBit Ethernet
with its 125 MB data rate - even Raids are often not as fast.

i would always avoid unneeded problems and use ftp/SMB/NFS/AFP

Gea
 
rbm said:
Thanks. Network restore is always a possibilty but Gigabit throughput pales in comparison to local 300 MB/s SATA speeds. So, are you saying that Linux filesystem support is nonexistant on Solaris11/Nexenta/OpenIndiana? I've seen bug reports on Nexenta forum related to this issue.
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Ext4 is probably going to be a no-go.

There are some read-only solaris drivers for ntfs/ext2/3 available here:
http://blogs.sun.com/pradhap/entry/mount_ntfs_ext2_ext3_in
but not sure if what version of solaris that works for.

I think solaris can mount FAT32 natively, but haven't verified this. (And you would have to keep all your files < 4GB).
 
_Gea said:
if you try to download something from the internet with a 403 error, there is a problem with the remote internet-server or with a single page not with your local os.

Gea
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I wasn't downloading anything - the napp-it installer was, and got a couple of 403 errors. I will see how things go with the next go around...
 
danswartz said:
I wasn't downloading anything - the napp-it installer was, and got a couple of 403 errors. I will see how things go with the next go around...
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napp-it installer tries to download and install some tools like midnight commander, netcat, bonnie or smartmontools.
if one of the sites is offline or changed something, you get such a message.

but i am not aware of a general problem or a generally not working link.
which tool is missing?

Gea
 
Unfortunately, it was all scrolling by. I am now installing OI from the live-cd (GUI available.) If it happens again, I will see if there is a logfile I can get. I think midnight commander might have been one. I think the smartmontools was another.
 
danswartz said:
Unfortunately, it was all scrolling by. I am now installing OI from the live-cd (GUI available.) If it happens again, I will see if there is a logfile I can get. I think midnight commander might have been one. I think the smartmontools was another.
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there is a napp-it logfile within your $HOME directory

and
try a ping to any site to check if you have a working network and dns

Gea
 
_Gea said:
it is not supported out of the box. You will hardly find a consumer disk, especially from the green and high capacity ones and a NAS with a single disk, that can outperform GigaBit Ethernet with its 125 MB data rate - even Raids are often not as fast.

i would always avoid unneeded problems and use ftp/SMB/NFS/AFP

Gea
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Gea and ChrisBenn,

Thanks for the enlightenment guys. For sure I'll take the easy route by using the network backup/restore option since Linux filesystem support is problematic. I don't want complications or headaches, potentially going down a path from which there is no return.

Cheers,
Robert
 
Gea, the errors don't seem to go into the logfile :( I am pasting them here before rebooting:

### oi/se 1.10 install smartmontools and gcc
---------------------------------
Packages to install: 19
Create boot environment: No
Download: developer/parser/bison ... Done
Download: developer/versioning/subversion ... Done
Download: developer/debug/gdb ...
Errors were encountered while attempting to retrieve package or file data for
the requested operation.
Details follow:

http protocol error: code: 403 reason: Forbidden
URL: 'http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/file/1/d8e1c98cb98c3f6a6c70c02fd2ece01959a91eb6'.

and:

checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking whether the C++ compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/root/smartmontools-5.40':
configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
setup/ update napp-it

the latter is I think because the compiler could not be installed. Starting things up now...
 
Oh, and this I guess explains why I am unable later to build smartmontools; the compiler is missing in action, and I have no idea how to install it...
 
_Gea,

I've got another request. I currently have another Solaris 11 Express with Napp-It server set up that's going to live in my detached garage as a disaster recovery server. I would like to replicate to the server on a scheduled basis. This functionality is already built into Napp-It, but I'd like to take it a step further.

It would be awesome if you could add a wake on lan function to the replication options as well as some sort of built-in delay (either manual or something icmp based that checks for a live server). The final piece of the puzzle would be to add a shutdown function. This is all needed for the following process:

The main server initiates a wake on lan magic packet to the DR server.
While the DR server boots, the main server pings it to see when it's alive and responding.
Once the DR server is up and running, replication starts.
When replication completes, the main server initiates a graceful shutdown sequence on the DR server to turn it off.
An email is then sent to me to notify of a successful replication.

This would absolutely ROCK to have in my situation. I understand this is something I can set up with a cron job, but I'd love to have it built into Napp-It's interface.

Now that I think of it, the wake on lan function should be built into the scheduler for any task and should be associated with group members in general. That way, you can run scrubs and snaps of powered off servers based on the schedule implemented on the main server.
 
danswartz said:
Gea, the errors don't seem to go into the logfile :( I am pasting them here before rebooting:

### oi/se 1.10 install smartmontools and gcc
---------------------------------
Packages to install: 19
Create boot environment: No
Download: developer/parser/bison ... Done
Download: developer/versioning/subversion ... Done
Download: developer/debug/gdb ...
Errors were encountered while attempting to retrieve package or file data for
the requested operation.
Details follow:

http protocol error: code: 403 reason: Forbidden
URL: 'http://pkg.openindiana.org/dev/file/1/d8e1c98cb98c3f6a6c70c02fd2ece01959a91eb6'.

and:

checking for xlC_r... no
checking for xlC... no
checking whether the C++ compiler works... no
configure: error: in `/root/smartmontools-5.40':
configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
setup/ update napp-it

the latter is I think because the compiler could not be installed. Starting things up now...
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i checked it with a fresh setup of se11 but i could not reproduce the error.
maybee its a temporary problem


Gea
 
Emulsifide said:
_Gea,

I've got another request. I currently have another Solaris 11 Express with Napp-It server set up that's going to live in my detached garage as a disaster recovery server. I would like to replicate to the server on a scheduled basis. This functionality is already built into Napp-It, but I'd like to take it a step further.

It would be awesome if you could add a wake on lan function to the replication options as well as some sort of built-in delay (either manual or something icmp based that checks for a live server). The final piece of the puzzle would be to add a shutdown function. This is all needed for the following process:

The main server initiates a wake on lan magic packet to the DR server.
While the DR server boots, the main server pings it to see when it's alive and responding.
Once the DR server is up and running, replication starts.
When replication completes, the main server initiates a graceful shutdown sequence on the DR server to turn it off.
An email is then sent to me to notify of a successful replication.

This would absolutely ROCK to have in my situation. I understand this is something I can set up with a cron job, but I'd love to have it built into Napp-It's interface.

Now that I think of it, the wake on lan function should be built into the scheduler for any task and should be associated with group members in general. That way, you can run scrubs and snaps of powered off servers based on the schedule implemented on the main server.
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this could only be done by Oracle or OpenIndiana.

a possible workaround:
use a power timer together with a napp-it shut down autojob.

Gea
 
danswartz said:
happens everytime for me. have you tried with openindiana?
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no problem here.
maybee you may try another dns (like Google 8.8.8.8)
in /etc/resolv.conf:

nameserver 8.8.8.8

or try from another location.
(there is no error report like this from others)


Gea
 
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napp-it .415h
netatalk 2.1.5
Solaris Express 11

First, thank you for napp-it because with out it I would not have made it this far!

I am having a terrible time with file permissions and would appreciate some help.

I have created a pool, and a folder within it. I have set it up for AFP.
/pool1/TheRest and the folder is MoneyDance. I can save items to TheRest, but not to MoneyDance. I am a member of staff (stevefer)

Code: 
stevefer@solaris1:/pool1$ ls -l
total 9
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 776 2011-02-25 23:02 Bonnie.log
drwxrwxrwx+ 13 root root  13 2011-03-06 12:13 itunes
drwxrwxrwx+  9 root root  10 2011-03-06 10:30 Photographs
drwxrwxrwx+ 10 root root  10 2011-03-06 16:31 TheRest

Here are the permissions to MoneyDance:
Code: 
stevefer@solaris1:/pool1/TheRest$ ls -l
total 5
drwxrws---  3 lisa     staff 9 2011-03-06 16:31 MoneyDance

I can ssh in create a file in MoneyDance and remove it fine. I can't do it through my mac in finder though. So, I think this is something with netatalk, or just permissions.
Here is an example of me creating and removing a file named test (extra files deleted):

Code: 
stevefer@solaris1:/pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance$ touch test
stevefer@solaris1:/pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance$ ls -l
total 83264
-rw-r--r--  1 stevefer staff        0 2011-03-06 16:42 test
stevefer@solaris1:/pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance$ rm test
stevefer@solaris1:/pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance$ ls -l
total 83263
stevefer@solaris1:/pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance$

If I try to save a simple test file to MoneyDance, is says I do not have permission.

I have spent hours on this and I'm getting marks on my forehead from banging it into the keyboard.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Steve
 
@stevefer

check folder settings:
nbmand: off
perm: 777
acl: @everyone: modify or full


you may also try next nightly 0.415i with improved perm/acl settings
and a bugfix about folder compression, not settable via GUI.

Gra
 
Thanks for the suggestions, Gea.

check folder settings:
nbmand: off
perm: 777
acl: @everyone: modify or full
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I checked the folder settings from the browser:


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I will try the new build tonight. Do I run the same install procedure (wget -O - www.napp-it.org/nappit04 | perl)

I also tried connecting to the folder from a Windows PC and it seemed to work fine. I'm going to check my steps tonight to make sure, but it seems to be Apple related. That is what I get for playing outside the garden walls.

Steve
 
stevefer said:
I am having a terrible time with file permissions and would appreciate some help.
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Steve,

Here are a few things you can try. First the version of ls that your path likely defaults to is the gnu version and isn't too ACL friendly. You may have better luck understanding what's going on by using "/usr/bin/ls -lv". Also you can try rewriting all your ACLs with something like this (noting full paths for chown and chmod):

Code: 
# set owner and group
/usr/bin/chown -R stevefer:staff /pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance

# wipe ACL and give owner full rights
/usr/bin/chmod -R A=owner@:full_set:file_inherit/dir_inherit:allow /pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance

# add to ACL to give group full rights
/usr/bin/chmod -R A+group@:full_set:file_inherit/dir_inherit:allow /pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance

# add to ACL to give everyone read and execute
/usr/bin/chmod -R A+everyone@:read_set/execute:file_inherit/dir_inherit:allow /pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance

# add to ACL to give root full rights
/usr/bin/chmod -R A+user:root:full_set:file_inherit/dir_inherit:allow /pool1/TheRest/MoneyDance

There are sometimes some odd interactions between AFP and ACLs so just something else to check.
 
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