Ok so i am not sure if its only me, but onboard NICS they all seem to hate me... Ok so first of all my first build amd 3200+ the onboard nic was working great then one day it decided to die(2yrs ago) so i had to get an external nic, then my amd x2 biostar it was great with xp but then some how when i install vista home on it the network driver stopped working even after installing the latest drivers for vista for a few times!! but i got a linksys wireless for it and working great... then my intel d975xbx it has vista ultimate it took a long time to get it up and still each time i turn it on, i have to reset the network(though the network management) now i just got in my asus p5q pro installed(replaced the d975xbx as upgrrade) and installed vista ultimate 32bit btw installed all the latest drivers(yes i rebooted) and guess what?? still it does not work, oh and the internet router, cable is all good.... ive talked to some people and they say they never have problem with onboard nics works first try and always works... why me?!?! lol so now i probably have to buy another pci nic for $36 Thanks!