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I just purchased the Norco 4220 3 weeks ago..
there should've been two bags of screws - one with screws for motherboard mounting with some extra standoffs, and the other bag with just screws for the HDD caddies. if its missing or if you need extra then Norco will usually send them out free.
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I just realized newegg only carries OEM, and Newegg just pointed that out to me telling me they can't do anything for me on getting the correct screws and I have no idea what size screws I need to search for as Norco isn't even replying to my e-mails. This comment below tells me that I may not have to buy anything..so I am trying to be a little more patient. Just wondering if anyone has done this recently, received screws from Norco
Hey guys, anyone know the approximate CPU heatsink clearance in a Norco RPC-4224?
Trying to spec a build and have a couple tower heatsinks lying around I'd like to use, but not sure if they'll fit... The whole case is about 178 mm tall, so it's got to be at most 160 mm, but that's right around the height of a bunch of my coolers, so I'm at a loss.
Thanks to anyone who can help out.
@shousto2: Thanks for the pictures! So that's what the new 4224 looks like
It's nice to see they moved the controls to the front especially the LEDs so they are easier to see, however I am a bit disappointed that they removed the HDD activity LED from the LHS controls as I use an internal HDD (SSD) as the boot drive and used the HDD activity LED to indicate when the system is accessing the internal drive... Oh well, maybe in the next revision of the 4224...
The additional cable needed to make this work on the Norco 4224 backplanes requires a dedicated wire for each LED. There is a 10 pin header on each board. So you would need 6 x 10 to get all LEDs connected to your controller/expander.
On my 4224 (v1 I think) it is a 2x5 set of pins on an open black header located at the right when viewed from the back. From left to right I have: molex, molex, SAS, 2x5 pins.
I just got my Norco 4224 the other day and took some pics of the backplane.
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I'm assuming treadstone was talking about the 2x5 header labeled as J1 on the very left.
@DarthRay: I'll give you an explanation/function description of the J1 pins tomorrow. I just returned from a one week vacation and I'm rather tired right now. I can tell you that the I2C connections from the white 3 pin header only go to the non populated sideband controller chip on the backplane. So connecting anything to it will do absolutely nothing for you!
@dreamnid: Thanks for the picture, have to find my pictures of the 4224 backplane...
Also, I assume the little 'uC' chip you are referring to (on the backside of the backplane right behind J1) is powered via the Molex power connectors and one of the 3.3V regulator chips (IIRC it's slot 1 that powers this chip). It's not a uC, it's a hex schmitt-trigger inverter.
@DarthRay: I'll give you an explanation/function description of the J1 pins tomorrow. I just returned from a one week vacation and I'm rather tired right now. I can tell you that the I2C connections from the white 3 pin header only go to the non populated sideband controller chip on the backplane. So connecting anything to it will do absolutely nothing for you!
I have a new 4224 and all of the green power LED's initially tested good.
I only use rows 1, 5 and 6. After a few weeks of operation I noticed one of the green LED's was not lit, although the drive works normally.
Out of curiosity I tested all 24 slots and found that 6 LED's do not lite up even though the drive functions normally. 5 of the extinguished LED's are on rows 2, 3, and 4 which have never been used.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to the problem.
I doubt if it's a power problem because I use a top of the line single rail power supply and a 1200 watt UPS for power protection.
@war9200: how do you get to 61TB with 24 x 3TB drives in RAID6 ???
Shouldn't that be 66TB?
@BigXor: The 4224 backplane uses a dual P-Channel Mosfet transistor to control the +5V and +12V power to each slot individually. Pin 5 of each SATA power connector is used to control the Mosfet as well as the green power LED. If you insert a HDD into the power connector, the drive will pull pin 5 low (to ground) and turn on the Mosfet transistor as well as the power LED.
There could be a few reasons why the green power LED isn't working:
1) the LED is damaged
2) cold solder joint on either the LED or the current limit resistor for this particular LED
3) the 3.3V regulator for this HDD on the backplane is damaged or has a cold solder joint
4) the LED is misaligned (in which case you may see a faint amount of green light at the front of the HDD caddy)
Hope this helps.
@war9200: how do you get to 61TB with 24 x 3TB drives in RAID6 ???
Shouldn't that be 66TB?
Also, I would suggest you change your setup as running 24 drives in RAID6 is still risky...
Hey guys, anyone know the approximate CPU heatsink clearance in a Norco RPC-4224?
Trying to spec a build and have a couple tower heatsinks lying around I'd like to use, but not sure if they'll fit... The whole case is about 178 mm tall, so it's got to be at most 160 mm, but that's right around the height of a bunch of my coolers, so I'm at a loss.
Thanks to anyone who can help out.
anyone using the RPC-450 or RPC-470 as their main desktop chassis? I'm getting a rack and would like to put everything in it, so considering moving my main computer from my trusty P182 to a 4U RPC-450 or RPC-470
would have to get a new CPU cooler though and I just spent $90 on a HR-02
also concerned about noise, it doesn't look like there is a 120mm fan bracket for the RPC-470 like the 4220 and 4224
can you breifly explain how rails work? I guess most cases don't come with them?I am like a week away from getting my desktop pc, currently inside an antec 300, into the RPC-470. Just waiting on some rails from newegg. I do not know if a 120mm bracket is available for the RPC-470, but its not that loud in my opinion.
Where is your rack going to be? is it an open frame rack? enclosed?. If your using an open frame rack in your living room next to your TV your going to have to bump up the volume a notch or two.
In regards to the CPU cooler see the post i made just before yours. That is your answer.
I have a new 4224 and all of the green power LED's initially tested good.
I only use rows 1, 5 and 6. After a few weeks of operation I noticed one of the green LED's was not lit, although the drive works normally.
Out of curiosity I tested all 24 slots and found that 6 LED's do not lite up even though the drive functions normally. 5 of the extinguished LED's are on rows 2, 3, and 4 which have never been used.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to the problem.
I doubt if it's a power problem because I use a top of the line single rail power supply and a 1200 watt UPS for power protection.
@Parcifal: No need for opto couplers. The voltages you are reading/measuring are about correct (depends on the resistor used on your HBA and the LED you used for testing).
If I have some time tonight, I'll see if I can draw you a quick schematic of the J1 connector and how they designed the error led circuit.
@BigXor: The 4224 backplane uses a dual P-Channel Mosfet transistor to control the +5V and +12V power to each slot individually. Pin 5 of each SATA power connector is used to control the Mosfet as well as the green power LED. If you insert a HDD into the power connector, the drive will pull pin 5 low (to ground) and turn on the Mosfet transistor as well as the power LED.
There could be a few reasons why the green power LED isn't working:
1) the LED is damaged
2) cold solder joint on either the LED or the current limit resistor for this particular LED
3) the 3.3V regulator for this HDD on the backplane is damaged or has a cold solder joint
4) the LED is misaligned (in which case you may see a faint amount of green light at the front of the HDD caddy)
Hope this helps.
can you breifly explain how rails work? I guess most cases don't come with them?
this is the rack I'm getting
http://www.provantage.com/startech-4postrack36~7STR919V.htm
it will be in the living room (I live in a small apt) so I definitely want something quiet and will be replacing the fans
I saw your post about CPU coolers that's why I said I knew I'd need a new one