NVIDIA’s Big Format Gaming Displays Will Cost between 4,000 and 5,000 EUR

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  1. elvn

    elvn 2[H]4U

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    I may be interested in the samsung QLEDs in 2019 due to OLED burn in concerns in the back of my mind. The samsung "QLEDs" and the LG OLEDs are very good 4k HDR monitors already. They just need hdmi 2.1 bandwidth , VRR and QFT. The nvidia BFG's 384 zone fald sounds like it would be good but not at that kind of price. The samsung 2018 model is $1800 in the same year it was released.

     
  2. polonyc2

    polonyc2 [H]ard as it Gets

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    so a Big Format Gaming Display is just Nvidia's term for a regular large size OLED/LED TV?
     
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    Krenum [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Spending that kind of money on something that's going to depreciate in value the moment you open the box. Hell no.
     
  4. elvn

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    The BFG has a dense 384 zone direct LED dynamic FALD backlight which is pretty high. I'm not sure what the samsung S8 QLED's FALD density is. Also, the BFG has G-SYNC! :b

    edit: the Q9 has 480zones.. the Q8 has 40 zones

    UgTKtbZ.png + TAX !!
     
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  5. Dekoth-E-

    Dekoth-E- [H]ardness Supreme

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    This is so far into the realm of diminishing returns it is absurd. I mean I get this is a hardware enthusiast site and we don't generally mock the absolute top end, but this? This is starting to feel closer to a $1000 HDMI cable.
     
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  6. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    It's not a TV.
    I don't know about an S8 (next year's model?), but the Q9 has 480 zones according to Rtings. The Q8 has just 40 zones.
     
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  7. elvn

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    Need 2019 version with hdmi 2.1 for 4k 120hz. What sucks is nvidia only working with g-sync.

    Color? Low input lag? Variable frame rate? FALD + HDR 1000?

    What are you paying $5000 for in the BFG? 5000 - 1800 = $3200 more for perhaps a more dense FALD array and G-SYNC when you could already have freesync/HDMI 2.1 VRR if nvidia would support it.

    Granted that is for the 55" samsung +$3200 more for BFG
    The 65" S8 is $2500.. so even then, and only comparing since nvidia doesn't offer a 55" version... , paying +$2500 ??.
    The Q9 65" is $3300 .. = +$1700 for the BFG which apparently has similar # of zones and G-sync instead of free-sync/VRR of the samsung

    Also for comparison for those willing to risk burn in, the 2018 55" LG C8 OLED is $2200 already and the 65" is $3000 so 2019 OLEDs shouldn't be much out of that range hopefully. Still thousands less than the BFG.

    edit: there are two Q9F's .. 2017 and 2018 .. prices differ. $3300 is the 2018 model, The 2017 model has been down to $2500 on newegg.
    Samsung Q8F (rtings review)
    • Excellent wide color gamut
    • Feels responsive due to low input lag
    • Great motion handling
    • the viewing angles are poor so the sides of the screen lose accuracy when viewed from up-close.
    • "Excellent contrast ratio on the Samsung Q8F. It features a full array local dimming feature and is able to get very deep blacks. 7957:1 "
    • "Very good brightness with HDR content. Small highlights are hitting the target 1000 cd/m² that HDR is mastered for. The screen brightness dips considerably with very bright scenes, but is still good for a bright room. Similar brightness to the LG C8, but with brighter highlights in very dark scenes, as shown by the small window tests."
    • "Excellent wide color gamut. The Q8FN can display nearly 100% of the P3 color space, and has the highest Rec.2020 coverage we have ever seen, although it is very close to the 2017 Q9F"
    • Update 06/08/2018: FreeSync has been tested and the score has been updated. FreeSync was supported from our Xbox One S and our Radeon RX 580 GPU, in 1080p, 1440p and 4k resolutions. FreeSync is activated by enabling the TV's Game mode and FreeSync settings
    • Excellent low input lag on the Samsung Q8FN QLED TV. Input lag is exceptionally low with 120 Hz content, similar to the NU8000, and better than the LG C8. It can display most resolutions without any issues, but chroma 4:4:4 is not supported in PC Mode with a 1440p@120Hz signal (Likely a bandwidth limitation that will be overcome with hdmi 2.1 models in 1440p and 4k 120hz)
    • 4k with Variable Refresh Rate : 15.4 ms
    • 4k @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 + 8 bit HDR : 16.7 ms
    • 1080p with Variable Refresh Rate : 6.5 ms
    • 1440p @ 120 Hz: 10.0 ms
    • can also interpolate games while keeping a low input lag, which is great for smooth play. 4k interpolated: 20.8ms
    • Great choice for a PC monitor. Picture quality is good. The TV supports chroma 4:4:4 for clear text across all backgrounds, and it has low input lag so the TV feels very responsive. It also has a low response time
     
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  8. jnemesh

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    Q8 is 40 zones, Q9 is 480 zones...
     
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  9. elvn

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    edited post to include the 480 zones.. thanks

     
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    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    It's too bad all of these are so damned big. I want to sit at arms length away from one, using it as a desktop monitor, and as such I want a 43" version.

    I'd totally do the AMD framebuffer passthrough hack to get FreeSync to work.
     
  11. JRUHg

    JRUHg Limp Gawd

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    not free? :mad: :banghead: 5k