Or... if Nvidia simply didn't do things like this, they wouldn't get blamed either.And then it would just be the company instead of NVidia that would get blamed for everything.
Crazy thought, I know!
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Or... if Nvidia simply didn't do things like this, they wouldn't get blamed either.And then it would just be the company instead of NVidia that would get blamed for everything.
Do you really think Nvidia paid 120$ for the bundles on the 370$ GTX1070 and up cards? They could just as well sell GTX1070 cards for 250$ then.
I'm interested to see how Nvidia can activate the game for you via Steam / UPlay, or whatever. I don't see how they can activate a game on any of those services on your account, and especially before supplying a game key.
This needs to be verified, but I bet GFE does the card / system check, then spits out a key, and then requests to launch whatever client the key activates on to streamline the process. Otherwise GFE is gaining access to your steam, origin, Uplay account and manipulating it which is probably some kind of terms of service violation.
I'll bet s coke a cola I'm right, and the only thing this whole mess does is require the purchaser to install their graphics card and activate GFE before deciding how to use the game key.
The Internet has also taught me that everything AMD does is complete and utter incompetence. If they have a success, it is only because of dumb luck, or a complete misstep by the competition.Internet has taught me one thing: if Nvidia (or Intel, for that matter) is doing something, anything, it has got to be evil and underhanded, and if you don't think so then you are either a noob, a shill or have more money than brains... period. And we all know that the internet is always right.
Just because something is produced does not mean that consumers have an obligation to purchase it and assuming that anyone that chose not to purchase what you produced is a lost sale is a mischaracterization, though it is a missed opportunity.
AMD doesnt pull this shit. and this is coming from a Nvidia fan, after the GFE 3.0 update ive been hating Nvidia more and more.And then it would just be the company instead of NVidia that would get blamed for everything.
AMD doesnt pull this shit. and this is coming from a Nvidia fan, after the GFE 3.0 update ive been hating Nvidia more and more.
Step 2:
Download the AMD Product Verification Tool and follow the instructions to redeem your game.
I was not aware of that. Well fuck them both, and fuck nvidia especially for thinking they can install telemetry software on my computer. Thank god for autoruns.exeAMD already has their own verification:
https://www.amd4u.com/amdgamepromo/
Both AMD and Nvidia verifications aren't tied to the hardware after activation.
Awaiting the forums boycott of both companies...
Ah then it doesn't really matter.You only need to have the hardware the first time. After that the game is in your steam library, origin etc like any other game. No limitation.
So much rage for what is possibly only a minor inconvenience. Again, how can and Nvidia and GeForce Experience can access to your steam, origin, or Uplay account? It can't.
My money is on that GFE runs the card and region check and spits out a game key. What you do with that game key is up to you.
You should probably read the whole thread, you're incorrect.
http://www.geforce.com/redeem-instructions
It just makes you login to Uplay/Steam/whatever within the GFE client, and ties it to your Uplay/Steam/whatever account directly, no code to put into the 3rd party service.
Since Tviceman has read the whole thread and everything...
What's the moral argument against doing this?nVidia are a morally bankrupt company, always have been.
Trueso you can still sell your codes but it has to be to a person who also owns the GPU the game(s) comes bundled with
Why? I just don't use it.AMD doesnt pull this shit. and this is coming from a Nvidia fan, after the GFE 3.0 update ive been hating Nvidia more and more.
So i'm guessing you own 0 steam games given you can't do what you want with those games and resell them either?i guess i wont be buying nvidia products in the future then. its my game my choice to do what i want with my game.
You redeem though GFE it goes, okay you have the card that you say you have by redeeming this code, then it takes you to login steam/origin/uplay and tells them to give a game to account xxx. This is a built in function of steam/origin/uplay how could this be against TOS if the game distro services built it into their service.I'm interested to see how Nvidia can activate the game for you via Steam / UPlay, or whatever. I don't see how they can activate a game on any of those services on your account, and especially before supplying a game key.
This needs to be verified, but I bet GFE does the card / system check, then spits out a key, and then requests to launch whatever client the key activates on to streamline the process. Otherwise GFE is gaining access to your steam, origin, Uplay account and manipulating it which is probably some kind of terms of service violation.
I'll bet s coke a cola I'm right, and the only thing this whole mess does is require the purchaser to install their graphics card and activate GFE before deciding how to use the game key.
Congratulations. Attitudes like yours are exactly the reason why companies feel they can pull off crap like this.
I was under the assumption that its mandatory now....looks like i know what im uninstalling now.Why? I just don't use it.
Given I don't use shadowplay, i'd probably get slightly annoyed if i really like and used shadowplay or used a shield. So i just don't use it, download drivers from the website uncheck the boxes I don't need and be on my way, game optimization isn't something i desire so really I don't have a use for GFE so i don't install it on my nvidia machines.
i did i bought a Strix gtx 960 ..but had to wait for AMAZON to send me a codeLol the game wasn't free if you had to buy a video card to get it. XD
This seems more about getting GFE on our computers than limiting reselling of game codes. I couldn't care about whether the games are tied to my account somehow, but I don't want GFE on my computer.As soon as they tie something to registration you know it's not about your best interests I outright refuse to install gfe anymore. And if they go trough with tying driver updates to it as they teased then backtracked previously I'll refuse to buy nvidia video cards period. There are some things you can'T get away with even if you have the competitive edge.
AMD doesnt pull this shit.
This seems more about getting GFE on our computers than limiting reselling of game codes. I couldn't care about whether the games are tied to my account somehow, but I don't want GFE on my computer.
Yeah that's the big thing - you log in w/ Steam or Uplay or whatever, and there is no discrete code, the game is activated in your account.If you enter the code in GFE, won't it just burp out another code that you can still resell? Or the actual platform for these games will be GFE itself?
Stupid for who, though? Nvidia is closing off the ability to (easily*) sell the games that get bundled in.The more I think of it the stupider this idea sounds.
Another issue is presumably until now they just slammed a code in the box of the card, but now they have to make sure that a specific code gets shipped with a specific card. That seems to be a boatload of extra logistics to me.
Stupid for who, though? Nvidia is closing off the ability to (easily*) sell the games that get bundled in.
(*Unless you've got the same card the game is bundled with.)
This is a major, egregious blow to customer rights and if we don't protest it now, things will only get worse...
Disgusting and shameful.
this is where you draw the line? Sorry Xaeos, this ship has already sailed.
If consumers would have been capable of organizing it would have happened with buy american and keep our jorbs, not over a bundled product with a GPU...
I do the same when updating Nvidia drivers. One of the problems, however, is that even when opting out of GFE and selecting only the base drivers, the installer surreptitiously adds "telemetry" (a euphemism for spyware -- let's call what it is) in the form of several task scheduler entries and corresponding files to the user's machine. I carefully audit all software I install and that stunt did not help Nvidia earn my trust to put it mildly. Sadly, it didn't surprise me either, but my disillusionment concerning their business practices is another topic.Given I don't use shadowplay, i'd probably get slightly annoyed if i really like and used shadowplay or used a shield. So i just don't use it, download drivers from the website uncheck the boxes I don't need and be on my way, game optimization isn't something i desire so really I don't have a use for GFE so i don't install it on my nvidia machines.
The more I think of it the stupider this idea sounds.
Another issue is presumably until now they just slammed a code in the box of the card, but now they have to make sure that a specific code gets shipped with a specific card. That seems to be a boatload of extra logistics to me.
The code is tied specifically to whether the card you have installed in your system is a card that is eligible for the code. This means that if the codes are sold with 1070/1080, the codes will only activate on a system that has a 1070/1080 installed. The codes are not tied to the SN of the product itself, only whether it is 10XX or not. So say DOTA gave away codes with 1050, they would only activate on systems with 1050s.I assumed they tie the game to the serial number of the card, not just the model.