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Nvidia RTX 5090 Prices Stabilize Around $3,000

jordan12 said:
I personally agree with you. Logical and makes sense. But let's be honest. Common sense doesn't really seem to exist anymore. Keep preaching. I agree with you man.
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Common sense seems to get less prevalent as we move forward in time.
 
Zorachus said:
$3,000 for 28% in performance improvement should not be acceptable and awarded by purchasing these bad value cards.

If this becomes the new trend, PC gaming will die off if it's going to cost eventually $5,000+ to build a complete system.
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35%, and you don't need a halo card to enjoy pc gaming. That's like saying a Lamborghini is required just to work.
 
StoleMyOwnCar said:
I think I would understand this craze if the 5090 offered a performance level which absolutely blew the 4090 out of the water. But it just gives like 30% more performance for 30% more power, at around 2x the current going price. Like I said in another topic, I had the chance to get one for under 3k, and quite casually, but even with the financial means to do so, it just doesn't make sense to me. I refuse to partake in this lunacy.
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Imagine if your penis was 30% larger! 30% not so insignificant now is it!
 
GoldenTiger said:
It's copium, and very tiring indeed.
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Meh, was in a similar position. Got a 5070ti to the cart at Best Buy and was set up for local pick up. Though they had an open box for $800 which I was considering. Though when the cart updated it only gave a new option for $1000. Not paying $1000 for a mid range card. I'm sure someone is happy with their purchase, but the prices over MSRP for all cards including AMD is just crazy.

Local Best Buys had some open box 5080/5070tis last week but seemingly those are gone. Often for a decent discount. Might be worth looking into, generally Best Buy staff lets you inspect before you buy open box.
 
Rumors are the 6xxx series will go back to the big performance upgrade cards should be. Like the 4xxx was from the 3xxx series.

6070 Ti will match the 5090. And I mean raw dog performance, not this AI frame gen crap upgrade. The 6xxx series will be the real deal.
 
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KickAssCop said:
MSI trio is now 3049. Rofl. That card doesn’t even have a vapor chamber.
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But, but, but its got FROZR 4!!!!!!

With ADVANCED THERMAL INNOVATIONS!!!

And look how happy this asian guy is gaming on it!!!! This could be you!!!!
You could be this happy with FROZR 4!!!
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Zorachus said:
Rumors are the 6xxx series will go back to the big performance upgrade cards should be. Like the 4xxx was from the 3xxx series.

6070 Ti will match the 5090. And I mean raw dog performance, not this AI frame gen crap upgrade. The 6xxx series will be the real deal.
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That would be great!

Hey, hey, hey that AI frame gen crap has been a lifesaver playing CP77 on the 57" ultrawide....insane to be hitting 240hz at this resolution / refresh with DLSS 4.

Yea there is slight imput lag which would be a no go for multiplayer competitive games, but CP77 is a testament to how good single player games can be with this technology.

PS if i turn ray tracing off, then the input lag is so minimal you could play multiplayer and I am extremely picky and intolerant about input lag.
 
Zorachus said:
Rumors are the 6xxx series will go back to the big performance upgrade cards should be. Like the 4xxx was from the 3xxx series.

6070 Ti will match the 5090. And I mean raw dog performance, not this AI frame gen crap upgrade. The 6xxx series will be the real deal.
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But the 5070 already matches the 4090...

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Zorachus said:
LOL no

The 6xxx series will go back to the big performance upgrade leap like it should. Rumored like 3xxx to 4xxx upgrade. Minimal 40% to 50% better, and potentially 60% to 70% better.

Not this bullcrap 35% only.
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So many folks forget NV is basically on the same node for 4xxx and 5xxx. Not that surprising the performance jump is minimal. Still good cards but priced poorly and supply restricted.

I suspect the AIBs are walking on thin ice at the moment. It wouldn't surprise me to see some find themselves cut out in the future if they can't control themselves.
 
At the end of the day everyone is in a unique financial situation and has to make decisions based on subjective personal circumstances. We aren't ants. Some can blow three grand on lunch, most don't have $500 for an emergency. Be responsible, don't spend your rent money on a video card, and you won't suffer the consequences.

I "lucked out" on a 4090 near launch for MSRP. Gamed on it for over 28 months. Bought the ridiculously priced Astral OC 5090 for $3359.99. Used a store card offer and didn't pay tax. Sold the 4090 to recover 52% of that. Subjectively worth it to me? Absolutely.
 
NukeDukem said:
At the end of the day everyone is in a unique financial situation and has to make decisions based on subjective personal circumstances. We aren't ants. Some can blow three grand on lunch, most don't have $500 for an emergency. Be responsible, don't spend your rent money on a video card, and you won't suffer the consequences.

I "lucked out" on a 4090 near launch for MSRP. Gamed on it for over 28 months. Bought the ridiculously priced Astral OC 5090 for $3359.99. Used a store card offer and didn't pay tax. Sold the 4090 to recover 52% of that. Subjectively worth it to me? Absolutely.
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You're just saying anything to justify your terrible purchase, it's your fault GPUs costs this much, PC gaming is going to die now, I would never spend that much on a graphics card becuz I have new and exciting hobbies now, I'm getting too old for this. Anything I missed? 😆
 
MistaSparkul said:
You're just saying anything to justify your terrible purchase, it's your fault GPUs costs this much, PC gaming is going to die now, I would never spend that much on a graphics card becuz I have new and exciting hobbies now, I'm getting too old for this. Anything I missed? 😆
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He forgot to mention they threw in free shipping and a keychain because he was such a great customer!
 
My main beef isn't even the crazy high $3,000+ price, that's not the biggest issue here.

It's rewarding nVidia for launching such a crap performing card at this price. The 5090 is basically a 4090 Ti


Historically gen to gen cards have been a 40% to 50% "upgrade" sometimes 60% to 70% other times only 25%, but on average an "upgrade" between series has been close to 50%. But this 5090 is only a 28% upgrade and for $3,000 I think that's insulting and outrageous from nVidia to charge so much for such a minimal performance upgrade, plus it runs hot, uses crazy watts power. Just seems like a bad series to get. I'd hold onto a 4090 and wait for the real upgrade in the 6090

Quick Google search;

"The RTX 5090 is generally reported to be around 20-30% faster than the RTX 4090 in gaming benchmarks"

Sorry but for $3,000 a 20% to 30% increase is a joke.

In 2022 the 4090 was $1599 and gave a real world 70% performance upgrade from the previous king the RTX-3090, and only cost a hundred bucks more. Now that's the way an upgrade should be.

Again I don't mind that the 5090 is $3000. I mind that the "performance upgrade" is so minimal and this shouldn't be ok or normalized.
 
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Zorachus said:
My main beef isn't even the crazy high $3,000+ price, that's not the biggest issue here.

It's rewarding nVidia for launching such a crap performing card at this price. The 5090 is basically a 4090 Ti


Historically gen to gen cards have been a 40% to 50% "upgrade" sometimes 60% to 70% other times only 25%, but on average an "upgrade" between series has been close to 50%. But this 5090 is only a 28% upgrade and for $3,000 I think that's insulting and outrageous from nVidia to charge so much for such a minimal performance upgrade, plus it runs hot, uses crazy watts power. Just seems like a bad series to get. I'd hold onto a 4090 and wait for the real upgrade in the 6090

Quick Google search;

"The RTX 5090 is generally reported to be around 20-30% faster than the RTX 4090 in gaming benchmarks"

Sorry but for $3,000 a 20% to 30% increase is a joke.

In 2022 the 4090 was $1599 and gave a real world 70% performance upgrade from the previous king the RTX-3090, and only cost a hundred bucks more. Now that's the way an upgrade should be.

Again I don't mind that the 5090 is $3000. I mind that the "performance upgrade" is so minimal and this shouldn't be ok or normalized.
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Their new focus is AI garbage, so that's largely to blame. Having said that, if you use apps like Adobe products, DaVinci, etc. that rely on CUDA cores, the 5090 has nearly double the CUDA cores as the 4090.
 
Zorachus said:
My main beef isn't even the crazy high $3,000+ price, that's not the biggest issue here.

It's rewarding nVidia for launching such a crap performing card at this price. The 5090 is basically a 4090 Ti


Historically gen to gen cards have been a 40% to 50% "upgrade" sometimes 60% to 70% other times only 25%, but on average an "upgrade" between series has been close to 50%. But this 5090 is only a 28% upgrade and for $3,000 I think that's insulting and outrageous from nVidia to charge so much for such a minimal performance upgrade, plus it runs hot, uses crazy watts power. Just seems like a bad series to get. I'd hold onto a 4090 and wait for the real upgrade in the 6090

Quick Google search;

"The RTX 5090 is generally reported to be around 20-30% faster than the RTX 4090 in gaming benchmarks"

Sorry but for $3,000 a 20% to 30% increase is a joke.

In 2022 the 4090 was $1599 and gave a real world 70% performance upgrade from the previous king the RTX-3090, and only cost a hundred bucks more. Now that's the way an upgrade should be.

Again I don't mind that the 5090 is $3000. I mind that the "performance upgrade" is so minimal and this shouldn't be ok or normalized.
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Well you already know the answer to that: There was no node shrink this time, the 5090 is made on the same node as the 4090 while the 4090 was made on a far superior node than the 3090 so that's why the performance uplift isn't huge this time. And let's face it, people seem to think that if nobody buys the 5090 then prices will plummet but this is simply not the case. If everyone stopped buying the 5090 then Nvidia can simply stop production of the 5090, take those GB202 dies, slap 64GB of VRAM on them, and sell them as RTX Blackwell Pro 5000 cards for way higher prices than they would sell 5090's for, given that the Blackwell 6000 Pro with 96GB and fully enabled GB202 die starts at $8,000 so that easily leaves room for a cut down 5000 Pro card for $5,000. So if anything we might just be doing Nvidia a huge favor if all 5090's were to stop selling because now they can divert the GB202 supply to higher profit margin products.
 
Zorachus said:
My main beef isn't even the crazy high $3,000+ price, that's not the biggest issue here.

It's rewarding nVidia for launching such a crap performing card at this price. The 5090 is basically a 4090 Ti


Historically gen to gen cards have been a 40% to 50% "upgrade" sometimes 60% to 70% other times only 25%, but on average an "upgrade" between series has been close to 50%. But this 5090 is only a 28% upgrade and for $3,000 I think that's insulting and outrageous from nVidia to charge so much for such a minimal performance upgrade, plus it runs hot, uses crazy watts power. Just seems like a bad series to get. I'd hold onto a 4090 and wait for the real upgrade in the 6090

Quick Google search;

"The RTX 5090 is generally reported to be around 20-30% faster than the RTX 4090 in gaming benchmarks"

Sorry but for $3,000 a 20% to 30% increase is a joke.

In 2022 the 4090 was $1599 and gave a real world 70% performance upgrade from the previous king the RTX-3090, and only cost a hundred bucks more. Now that's the way an upgrade should be.

Again I don't mind that the 5090 is $3000. I mind that the "performance upgrade" is so minimal and this shouldn't be ok or normalized.
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You know the 5090 could have been a near 0% performance increase with only the 32GB VRAM increase and MFG added for the same price and it would still be selling out at the current supply, but maybe sell a bit less overall if supply wasn't such an issue at the moment. Most of the target consumers for it just don't care about value and only about having the best thing at the moment.
 
Zorachus said:
My main beef isn't even the crazy high $3,000+ price, that's not the biggest issue here.

It's rewarding nVidia for launching such a crap performing card at this price. The 5090 is basically a 4090 Ti


Historically gen to gen cards have been a 40% to 50% "upgrade" sometimes 60% to 70% other times only 25%, but on average an "upgrade" between series has been close to 50%. But this 5090 is only a 28% upgrade and for $3,000 I think that's insulting and outrageous from nVidia to charge so much for such a minimal performance upgrade, plus it runs hot, uses crazy watts power. Just seems like a bad series to get. I'd hold onto a 4090 and wait for the real upgrade in the 6090

Quick Google search;

"The RTX 5090 is generally reported to be around 20-30% faster than the RTX 4090 in gaming benchmarks"

Sorry but for $3,000 a 20% to 30% increase is a joke.

In 2022 the 4090 was $1599 and gave a real world 70% performance upgrade from the previous king the RTX-3090, and only cost a hundred bucks more. Now that's the way an upgrade should be.

Again I don't mind that the 5090 is $3000. I mind that the "performance upgrade" is so minimal and this shouldn't be ok or normalized.
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4090s a great card....but 5090s moar better goodem.

People keep clinging on to that 30% better number but they have no concept how good 30% better than a powerful gpu like the 4090 really is.

They keep trying to compare it to 2080ti to 3090 30% which is fucking retarded. 2080ti and 3090 cards are weak as fuck compared to 4090....and 30% better than that is very potent.

But to each their own.....for me the 5090 was a business expense with gaming secondary.
 
Zorachus said:
LOL no

The 6xxx series will go back to the big performance upgrade leap like it should. Rumored like 3xxx to 4xxx upgrade. Minimal 40% to 50% better, and potentially 60% to 70% better.

Not this bullcrap 35% only.
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Considering it will be on a new node and not 4N like the 4000/5000 series.....pretty easy thing to say.

Not like a rumor. More like common sense.
 
Received Notice yesterday from Best Buy that a 5090FE, if still interested is waiting for me, I clicked upon it within a few seconds. Opened Best Buy app -> Sold Out

1st notice I’ve ever received from them, maybe a good sign. If it was actually available for MSRP, would have bought within a few seconds.
 
Brackle said:
Considering it will be on a new node and not 4N like the 4000/5000 series.....pretty easy thing to say.

Not like a rumor. More like common sense.
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It may be Intels 18a node. Seems to be the latest news. At least no Tariffs if the case. I would assume the board and components may incur tariffs, that is if applicable tariffs are still active.
 
l88bastard said:
4090s a great card....but 5090s moar better goodem.

People keep clinging on to that 30% better number but they have no concept how good 30% better than a powerful gpu like the 4090 really is.

They keep trying to compare it to 2080ti to 3090 30% which is fucking retarded. 2080ti and 3090 cards are weak as fuck compared to 4090....and 30% better than that is very potent.

But to each their own.....for me the 5090 was a business expense with gaming secondary.
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Fixed 4K panels and path tracing, which can consume all you throw at them. Family losses and life seeming much more precarious. And 30 percent indeed being not nothing and all maybe there is for two years. I'll have mine soon.
 
Man I thought I paid too much for the 6900XT, wanted a 6800XT but they were scalped for as much as the 6900XT when I had to buy. Now for the same money, I would be looking below a 80 series in Nvidia, just crazy.
 
$3000 for a GPU, the thing better give me hand jobs on demand for that price 😄
 
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