Is that why the Microsoft's Zune HD had a Tegra chip in it and last year at CES when they launched Windows 8 RT they demonstrated it on a Tegra 3 tablet?
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Is that why the Microsoft's Zune HD had a Tegra chip in it and last year at CES when they launched Windows 8 RT they demonstrated it on a Tegra 3 tablet?
No LTE. They have no distinguishing feature in the phone SoC space, much like Intel. There's no reason to pick either one over Qualcomm for the higher end + LTE, and for devices w/o LTE it makes no sense to pay the nVidia/Intel premium if you're not getting anything special over the competition (who the hell needs x86 on a phone?)
The GPGPU/CUDA game has been fading away from nVidia in the consumer space but has risen steadily in HPC. Most consumer applications and products are openCL compliant while CUDA has faded away quite quickly -- in the mobile end where it has never even gotten off the ground.
The next Nexus looks to be using a Qualcomm SoC. Intel has decided to flood emerging markets with cheap Atoms, but that's not a sustainable business model for Intel given the low margins. Intel is going to have to face up against Qualcomm sooner or later, and it's questionable whether they'll be able to offer the same price-to-performance or an equally all-encompassing LTE. Qualcomm's newest global LTE announcement is something that pretty much assures their dominance throughout all of 2013 in the smartphone space.
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Not after they are done micro-transaction-ing people till they go crazy,
Things are going to change and I will be VERY surprised if PS4 plays used games when it releases. If M$ doesn't do used PS4 wont and then it is pay to play every time.
Is that why the Microsoft's Zune HD had a Tegra chip in it and last year at CES when they launched Windows 8 RT they demonstrated it on a Tegra 3 tablet?
Was taking about their douchebaggery with Xbox, the zune really made it too didn't it. Windows rt tablets do people buy those?
Anyway like I said before nvidia is just being belligerent about not being in any console and shield looks real dumb.
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It would probably explain why AMD has no planned smartphone APU at all. Maybe they were smart enough just to have their APUs available in tablets, ultrabooks, laptops and desktop PCs.
It doesn't make sense to enter a market heavily dominated by ARM-based SoCs and expect to succeed. It's damn near impossible now. Maybe 10 years ago, it'd would have been smarter to enter an x86 processor for a smartphone when the market wasn't filled with smartphone devices. Unfortunately, the technology for both a power-efficient mobile x86 processor and the mobile software (a good one at that) was not available then.
Well let's ask wall street who is making the smart decisions.
From the looks of it, neither, since both are below 0% from September 2012 onward.
AMD has made more worse decisions in its history than Nvidia, but a lot of that has to do with past CEOs and mis-management within the company. Hopefully, AMD is making a smarter decision when shifting their focus onto server and mobile products.
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Hello. You must be someone who has never heard of investment bubbles and people getting wiped out because of them.
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Nope, only their (or aquired) tech, namely PhysX.
AMD better hope they get something out of this because they have nothing left to sell. They already lost their foundry, mobile division and even the house they live in. The only thing left is to sell off is their GPU division. Honestly I would be shocked if they make it until the end of next year.
As for the PS4 it won't be out for awhile and it will be years before we know what impact (if any) it has.
As for the PS4 it won't be out for awhile and it will be years before we know what impact (if any) it has.
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Yeah, the PS3 had an NVIDIA GPU.
Soooo, that means that they are still providing chips to Sony for existing PS3 models being sold.
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Does anyone remember what they ate for breakfast?
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Are you seriously not aware of the fact that console manufacturers unload consoles at a loss with the intention of making it up on the ecosystem?
This is common practice and has been for many years. Particularly in the case of the PS3.It's not conjecture.
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Sounds like nvidia is a bit sour at Amd.
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... 'Not sure if serious' gif goes here or perhaps a Joker 'why so serious' gif?Well let's ask wall street who is making the smart decisions.
O-M-G like the Zune-HD a product known for being .... well its a Zune.... had an Tegra chip in it? Woahhh. What's the Zune-HD mostly do? Play videos and music? Wow the Tegra chip is capable of playing HD videos AND music? You don't say!!Is that why the Microsoft's Zune HD had a Tegra chip in it and last year at CES when they launched Windows 8 RT they demonstrated it on a Tegra 3 tablet?
All sarcasim aside, a lot of chips can play 720p video that I wouldn't want to see put into PS3 including some DX9 cards from way back in the late 90s/early 2000s. Personally, I'm happy that both console manufacturers have gone the route of PC-based hardware. Now, I am a bit curious to see what the .... pirating/warez community is going to be able to make happen.
I know at times, there are a lot of specific choices made regarding a game being single-platform. IE. I can't play some FF games on some xbox platforms. Of course, the warez community when Windows Vista was new and only Windows Vista had DX10, a lot of DX10 only titles were not playable on Windows XP. As a warez community was fairly anti-vista for a while, it came up with community mods to make DX10 games playable on Windows XP. If you can ...artifically force DX10 into Windows XP, I wonder if you could 'force' a ps4-only x86 hardware based FF game to run on a Windows 7/8/9 machine.
It seems to be like it is theoretically possible assuming all the libraries/supporting software the PS3 uses could be emulated on the PC. I think the 'hard part' would be having the game not crash each time it tried to award an achievement/trophy. I could see that being 'cracked' though. Like the emulated system returning a 'already unlocked' exception everytime an achievement was earned to keep the game running. It at least seems substantially more probable than a PS3 game/emulation running on a PC.
Someone had made up a story about NVIDIA burning their bridge to Microsoft with the XBOX. I pointed out how Microsoft has kept using NVIDIA chips.
I know people hate when facts are used to prove a point.
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lol, I've never seen so much NVIDIA hate and AMD love in one thread.
Seriously, I like AMD's products, but even this thread of AMD-lovey-dovey-ness is starting to make me hate AMD.
Normally threads are all about how much AMD sux and Intel is ftw.
This thread is like the anti-thesis to all of those other threads!
I agree that Tamasi is probably making excuses. Passing up a new opportunity as PC graphics cards sales continue to decline and nvidia failing to capture more ARM business doesn't make much sense.
IMO, nvidia was never really in the running anyway. It didn't/doesn't have a complete solution for the product. That's a much larger issue than not getting enough royalties.
IMO, nvidia was never really in the running anyway. It didn't/doesn't have a complete solution for the product. That's a much larger issue than not getting enough royalties.