I know you know what passive cooling is so I'm not going to insult your intelligence. Your card is being air cooled. I was responding to a card being passively cooled.
See, I don't see it that way... A part not in spec doesn't mean it's DOA or that it would instantly fail... Not in spec means it still is a functioning part. Look at it this way, you buy a lower end CPU and overclock it to the specs of a higher performance model. If it was capable of running at those speeds, it likely would've been. NOW, yes, there are instances like with Ryzen, where pretty much every die is a good one and wouldn't need to be down-binned to produce lower cost models, but it still happens more often than not. In this instance, your CPU is going to do fine, and may do fine for years this way. That wasn't always the case though, and overclocking did have ramifications that would kill a chip quicker.These cards seem to be working ....... Then deteriorating and failing.
I don't buy that answer. What they said would align more with DOA cards
Don't their parts vendors take care of all of that? They're supposedly equipped to do a very good job of it, and would want to. Could NVidia be buying cheapo parts? They'd have no motivation to do so on high-end boards, certainly.
I would surmise that the test escape was Micron ram or directly related to controlling that ram chip and they have had to nuke the entire stock of those parts while they test it, hence the switch to Samsung, they don't want to burn Micron publicly for contract or supply relationship reasons hence keeping it quiet while they figure things out.Calling it test escapes could be any component on the board that went bad from the cheapest part to the core. That's not letting the public know what was wrong with the cards and what steps they are taking to improve quality. People want to know so that they can feel confident in purchasing NVIDIA products and know that it will not start a literal fire.
My next build will be a 100% passive HEDT with flagship GPU.Who's cooling a reference RTX 2080 series card passively under load?
Yeah, the teardown showed that the reference build could support fairly insane power levels if you kept the card cooled, and gamersnexus has shown that even the somewhat limited FE blower keeps all the parts (even on the cards that are failing) well within acceptable temp ranges.
Whoever nvidia contracted out to build these things fucked up big time with the QC.
They should replace no doubt and any other damages done but doesn't warrant a refund. While rare high powered electronics do catch fire. I had a MSI 780 catch fire years ago. I opened a rma ticket and got a new card in a week over Thanksgiving.And for the fellow whose 2080ti board caught fire and is worried about an RMA: I'd think EVGA would be sending a courier to his house ASAP to get it for analysis, and dropping off a replacement while there. And a refund.
I work in manufacturing. I'm going to leave it at the tinfoil hattery isn't unfounded.
I wish I could share your idealism. And quite the contrary, cheap parts + don't pass the savings onto the consumer = more profit.
Put down the crack pipe and back away from the keyboard.Call my cynical, and look into my tinfoil hat for a second.
I wouldn't put it past nVidia to try to use this as a stunt to get back some of the credibility they lost over the GPP thing. Send out a knowingly bad batch of parts, admit there was an oversight, offer quick and painless replacements. You'll probably get mixed results, but the overall should work in favor of "look they're doing the right thing".
There's my biased theory for the day.
We found that people that are having the most problems are putting these cards under too much stress. People using the cards for general productivity apps, web browsing, etc., will likely not see any problems.