NVIDIA Looks to Gag Journalists with Multi-Year Blanket NDAs

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  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    First and foremost, I should tell you that NDAs in the tech world are nothing new, but those non-disclosure agreements usually are product-specific and date-specific. Say we agree to get a review sample of video card X. Many times we will get an NDA that is specific to releasing any information shared by card X's representative and a date when we can share that information with you, often referred to as the "embargo date." The German website Heise is telling us that NVIDIA's new NDA is much more far reaching than product-specific information, and stretches out 5 years. Recently we discussed EK's NDA, which we would not agree to, reaching out for 10 years and having financial penalties attached to it as well. You can read the EK NDA here. You can read the NVIDIA NDA shared below and make up your own mind.

    That all said, NVIDIA has not contacted HardOCP about any upcoming information, which we believe to be in direct retaliation for discussing GPP with the world. NVIDIA did tell us before publication of the GPP information, that doing so "could damage the relationship" between HardOCP and NVIDIA. Thanks to Armenius for the heads up.

    The NDA in full.

    Attack on the journalistic work - The NDA should apply to all information provided by Nvidia, so it did not refer to a specific product or information. There was also no concrete expiration date. It was also full of conditions that ran counter to journalistic principles. Our legal department clapped their hands over their heads as they read the document.

    In other words, journalists are allowed to write only what fits Nvidia in the junk. In doing so, Nvidia downgrades the independent press into a marketing tool.

    This NDA has been confirmed as very real and out with other tech sites.
     
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  2. BrotherMichigan

    BrotherMichigan n00bie

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    I'll just leave this here for the people who missed it last time around:

     
  3. Brokennails

    Brokennails [H]ard|Gawd

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    Fuck u Nvidia. Have no regrets whatsoever with my Amd purchase ...
     
  4. Galvin

    Galvin 2[H]4U

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    Sounds very bad to me. Something out there has to keep companies in check.
     
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  5. Chimpee

    Chimpee [H]ard|Gawd

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    Wow, shit NDA by Nvidia. Someone need to knock Nvidia off its pedestal, not sure if it will be AMD or Intel, but looking forward to seeing it when it happen.
     
  6. Sulphademus

    Sulphademus Limp Gawd

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    Pushing me to buy AMD even if the green guys have the superior product.
     
  7. Master_shake_

    Master_shake_ Little Bitch

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    jesus why so dirty nvidia?

    you should have a go with googles old mantra, don't be evil.
     
  8. Meeho

    Meeho [H]ardness Supreme

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    This is truly shocking and surprising.
     
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  9. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Almost wheeled it out, but decided it was too serious for the old shocker jpg.

    s-l300.jpg
     
  10. Uvaman2

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    Question is... Who would sign this? Hopefully not many... I know the word of the day is ' access' however, if you end up being and extended Nvidia press release, even a dummy would notice (i hope)
     
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  11. Sulphademus

    Sulphademus Limp Gawd

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    Far too many is my fear.
     
  12. None

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    Nvidia doing something that could be anti-consumer, shocking.

    It goes back into the unethical nature of blacklisting reviewers who give poor reviews. Essentially the same thing here, but under contractual terms to never speak of it under threat of litigation.

    What kind of company would send out a vague and all-encompassing NDA like this without a product to go along with it? It sounds like it's strictly to control the flow of information. I guess if you want a pre-release product for review you can't report on any kind of rumors that might paint Nvidia in a bad light anymore if you've signed this.
     
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    that is the question.

    we'll know for sure when new cards come out.
     
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    exlink 2[H]4U

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    The discrete GPU industry sucks. Our choices are basically between an anti-consumer company or an under-performing company.

    I really hope Intel enters the arena with something worthwhile.
     
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    looks like Nvidia is preparing some really shiety moves in the next 5 years.
     
  16. Chebsy

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    Here we go again !! I wonder what Nvidia will come up with next week ;);)
     
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  18. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    This NDA has been confirmed as very real and out with other tech sites.

    This does however confirm that NVIDIA has "cut HardOCP off," which was expected after GPP.
     
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  19. fightingfi

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    LULZ so i now use amd 2700x as my cpu and a gtx 1070 which is going to be replaced with i guess amd now ty nvidia LULZ........7 delicious nm for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    It's almost better off they cut you off. Just makes laughing at this NDA all the more enjoyable...

    Another nail in the "won't-buy-nV-crap" coffin..
     
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  21. vegeta535

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    Seems like Nvidia about to release a turd of a card. 1180 might not even be better then a 1080ti. They doing it on purpose cause of lack of competition.
     
  22. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Much like EK, there is no way I would have signed that NDA.
     
  23. Chimpee

    Chimpee [H]ard|Gawd

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    Better to stick to your principles than being a tool.
     
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  24. c3k

    c3k [H]ard|Gawd

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    Funny, because c3k has just "cut Nvidia off," which was expected after their high-handed shenanigans.

    AMD, you're about to get 4 gpu purchases from me, and then from all those who look to me for tech advice.
     
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  26. Stoly

    Stoly [H]ardness Supreme

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    As long as nvidia keeps releaseing great cards, they'll have my money. I really couldn't care less if they mistreat the press, or enforce shady programs to its partners.

    Once AMD or Intel beat nvidia, then I'll vote with my wallet.
     
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  27. Meeho

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    nVidia, dude, *what are you doing*?

    Are you intentionally trying to poop away whatever good will people still have for you?

    Just stop, man. Stop right now.
     
  29. SvenBent

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    If just we had a bunch of people working together with the power to mak some kind of rules to govern how things to be to make it fair for everyone. i fell like i have the name right on my tounge...
    But instead, we have ppl paid by the companies to govern their interests against the people.
     
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  30. CuriousGeorge

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    The second paragraph 3 (apparently Nvidia can't count) "Termination of Obligation of Confidentiality" says:
    I've never seen an NDA before, but this would seem to be effectively the same as a more time-limited NDA covering specific product information. I'm definitely not a lawyer, so I'm curious what the practical difference would be here.
     
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  31. SomeoneElse

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    That's just insane....they are trying to keep their hype train from derailing when their GPUs start missing the performance marks they claim.
    This is some grimy stuff. Who puts a 10 year NDS out.....I think basically its saying that We don't want anyone who spoke out badly of someone to ever get the chance to speak out again.....this is what kills journalistic integrity.
    Make you wonder how much of this type of stuff happens behind closed doors with the New Media outlets....looks like those smaller outfits get snuffed out along with suppressing the truth.
     
  32. Mugato

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    The terms of the agreement are also confidential per the first paragraph, so this is a public document, or it cannot be posted online to whomever it was given? We had NDA's I've just never read through them LOL, I just update them (by update I mean upLOAD them somewhere).
     
  33. GNUse_the_force

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    But regulation is bad Mmm'kay.
     
  34. bigdogchris

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    So the verbal threat to not talk about GPP wasn't enough for them I see.
     
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  35. oROEchimaru

    oROEchimaru [H]ardness Supreme

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    well im done with nvidia for good then
     
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  36. F.E.A.R.

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    Intel, AMD, Nvidia all these companies have done some questionable things in the past, but Nvidia is sure taking things to another level. What is driving them I really wonder? Do they think that they have a chance to really drive AMD to the ground for good? It's puzzling.
     
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  37. jardows

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    Maybe. Maybe, like Intel, they have hit a wall with their technical direction?
     
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    I've wondered about this because they should WANT AMD around because of the word "Monopoly"*. They might want to keep them to 10% marketshare but not gone.

    *not this administration, for sure, but a future one
     
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    damn, if I could return my 1070Ti for an exchange with a Vega 56, I would...
     
  40. andrewaggb

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    That's very common in NDA's (I'm no lawyer either). As far as I know, any information you knew beforehand or becomes public knowledge can't be enforced by an NDA.
     
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