Nvidia GT300 "Fermi" PICS!!!

Fair enough.
smartpatrol said:
what the hell would be the point of sticking a GT300 chip on an obviously non-functional board that was crudely sawed in half?
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I don't know.

Well, that didn't really help. So...what specific claim did I make that was wrong? Can you just point me to the post? Might save us a little time with this back and forth.
 
phide said:
Fair enough.

I don't know.

Well, that didn't really help. So...what specific claim did I make that was wrong? Can you just point me to the post? Might save us a little time with this back and forth.
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I'm not wasting any more energy in this discussion, so I am just going to concede victory to you. You were right.

It was totally rational to believe in the possibility that Nvidia for some crazy reason:
- started with a PCB that was clearly sawed off in a way that would render it non-functional
- soldered a Fermi chip to that board
- subsequently covered it with a shroud and backplate so we can't tell if it has a GPU soldered on it or not

How silly of me to judge by the photographic evidence that the "Fermi" board was just a mock-up. I should've instead humored Jensen Huang, and believed in the possibility, as you suggested, that it was just a really early design and that it might indeed have a Fermi chip on it. I should've kept on believing that until Nvidia themselves confirmed the overwhelming photographic evidence that yep, it was a fake all along.

:D
 
This card looks like total fail, 4-6 month later than AMD, huge power consumption, use lots of power, generate lots of heat, use same tech so will cost more than 58xx to make, and won't even be that much more powerful, by the time it come out, I can see AMD's corssfire setup being faster and cheaper.... This is 5900 all over again.
 
I want a new card and have never bought an ATi. I might have to rethink that.
 
sskk said:
This card looks like total fail, 4-6 month later than AMD, huge power consumption, use lots of power, generate lots of heat, use same tech so will cost more than 58xx to make, and won't even be that much more powerful, by the time it come out, I can see AMD's corssfire setup being faster and cheaper.... This is 5900 all over again.
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sskk said:
This card looks like total fail, 4-6 month later than AMD, huge power consumption, use lots of power, generate lots of heat, use same tech so will cost more than 58xx to make, and won't even be that much more powerful, by the time it come out, I can see AMD's corssfire setup being faster and cheaper.... This is 5900 all over again.
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Great, good to know.

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smartpatrol said:
I'm not wasting any more energy in this discussion, so I am just going to concede victory to you. You were right.
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Heh. I wasn't "right" or "wrong", since I didn't make any claims. I'm not sure what you expected would be the outcome of your little tirades.

sskk said:
...won't even be that much more powerful
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All I can say to that is: we'll see.
 
Who cares if the board he showed in his hand was a demo/prototype/mock-up. The card that powered the system demo was real.
 
So I've been reading this thread, and I just thought I'd say one thing to phide:

Please stop being so literal. Here's what you said:

I merely acknowledged the possibility that the card Jen-Hsun held up at the conference may have had one
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That is to say, you acknowledged the possibility that maybe some event x is satisfied. In the end, x was not satisfied, and therefore your possibility became a definite "no" as opposed to a definite "yes". The implication when you mention a possibility is the thought "I believe x to be satisfied or will be satisfied". Try to read a bit in between the lines, and you'll understand precisely what others mean. By being literal, you're only hindering your own comprehension. Surely, others could've said it a little better, but the entire story is in what I just wrote, and I'm sure if you were less focused on defending yourself and more focused on truly understanding what people were trying to say, you would've understood this already and not pushed this thread a couple of pages longer.

For the rest of you, when Phide mentions a possibility, he in no way acknowledges this possibility, meaning that he doesn't necessarily believe in his own possibilities, which is sort of weird, I guess, but that's where he's coming from.
 
Phide:

I'm usually pro Nvidia (even though I'm liking the 5870) but in this thread, I feel I must give this to you to fill out:

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phide said:
It's not a final-revision card, that's for damn sure. Does that mean there's no Fermi/GF100 under that HSF? No. That's impossible to say either way.
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phide said:
The question is: is there a GF100 under that heatsink? Is there not? I fail to see how blurry photos of power connectors or the presence of screws on the backplate are enough to be able to claim that the card isn't what is essentially Fermi. It sure as hell isn't final, and it's not even a functional, working card, but that doesn't mean the components on the PCB aren't what is effectively the Tesla card Jen claimed it is.
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There you go. Here are the claims you made :) I know you're going to sit here and split hairs but I thought I'd throw them out for everybody's amusement.
 
The implication when you mention a possibility is the thought "I believe x to be satisfied or will be satisfied".
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Very clearly wrong. To acknowledge the possibility of X indicates nothing more than the apparent potential for X to be true. It doesn't in any way indicate any personal belief on whether or not X will be true. When Jen-Hsun said "this is Fermi", it was my belief, at that point, that he was telling the truth, but I didn't necessarily come to the conclusion that the card had a GF100 on it, since it wasn't clear if it had or hadn't. At that point, the only conclusion I could come to is that maybe it did. That's as far as I could realistically go with it.

Cyrilix said:
For the rest of you, when Phide mentions a possibility, he in no way acknowledges this possibility, meaning that he doesn't necessarily believe in his own possibilities, which is sort of weird, I guess, but that's where he's coming from.
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Pardon? How did I not acknowledge the possibility? That's all I've done.

The card may have had a Fermi chip on it, and I said as much -- and no more. We've come to understand quite plainly now that it did not. No big deal. I'm not particularly sure why I eventually became to the sole focus of this thread, and the mere thought of that, at this point, is actually quite laughable.

Ron Mexico said:
I'm usually pro Nvidia (even though I'm liking the 5870) but in this thread, I feel I must give this to you to fill out:
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I will cross all the t's and dot all the i's and submit this form to the appropriate party.

smartpatrol said:
There you go. Here are the claims you made :) I know you're going to sit here and split hairs but I thought I'd throw them out for everybody's amusement.
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There's no need to "split hairs" on this one. That's what I said. I don't regret having said it. Are we done?
 
Not quite done yet. Good for a few more rounds of exposure and self humiliation.
 
phide said:
I'm not particularly sure why I eventually became to the sole focus of this thread, and the mere thought of that, at this point, is actually quite laughable.

I will cross all the t's and dot all the i's and submit this form to the appropriate party.

There's no need to "split hairs" on this one. That's what I said. I don't regret having said it. Are we done?
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The reason why we continue to "split hairs" is because I'm trying to preach to you what you didn't do right in this thread to make the thread's attention directed on you and cause confusion or misunderstanding. Why am I doing this? Because I think I know, and I'm trying to let you know, so you have the ability to prevent such a thing from occurring! It's that simple!

You're free to ignore my advice, however.
 
Fair enough. I'll exercise more caution in the future. I grossly overestimated the cognitive abilities of the target audience, perhaps ;)
 
E7130 said:
Who cares if the board he showed in his hand was a demo/prototype/mock-up. The card that powered the system demo was real.
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Actually quite a lot of people care. Now when Jensen held up the card and proudly stated that he was holding Fermi, I in good faith expect it to be just that. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume/expect to take what he says at face value. When it turns out the card is a non functional fake, that puts a big dent in the trust factor. Watch the video again, especially if I was there, I would feel pretty ripped off when I found out I didn't actually see what I thought I did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJOv3VlkEjQ
 
Who gives a shit if they held up a card made out of legos or whatever?

When it's out, it's out and if it performs when it comes out, whatever. When I feel the need to upgrade, I'll get whatever I feel is the best bang for the $$ at the time. If it ends up being really good, are you not going to get it just because they did something like held up a fake card?

He could have held up his dick for all I care, if the card works good when it's released then awesome, great job. I don't give a shit how many gallons of orphan blood they used in the manufacturing process, it's a computer part.
 
socK said:
He could have held up his dick for all I care, if the card works good when it's released then awesome, great job. I don't give a shit how many gallons of orphan blood they used in the manufacturing process, it's a computer part.
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What a disturbingly graphic post! Hahaha...
 
sskk said:
This card looks like total fail, 4-6 month later than AMD, huge power consumption, use lots of power, generate lots of heat, use same tech so will cost more than 58xx to make, and won't even be that much more powerful, by the time it come out, I can see AMD's corssfire setup being faster and cheaper.... This is 5900 all over again.
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LOL and you base all that on...?
 
E7130 said:
Who cares if the board he showed in his hand was a demo/prototype/mock-up. The card that powered the system demo was real.
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As someone else said you'll find quite a lot care about this since it just shows that besides the paper that NV have also now moved into plastic launches as well.

The osimple fact is NV are on the ropes and have been for a while now, whether they come out swinging or get knocked out will actually happen when they release something solid.
 
Enough doom and gloom crap, it's highly unlikely that nvidia is going to "die" as some people are calling it. These situations happen all the time and it's very rare to see companies go belly up because one product was released one month late.. As for the product mock-up who does care. It's not like you are going to a store and picking up a cardboard box with nothing in it. What they demo and what they show you may not be the same and it doesn't have to be the same. While I don't like the idea of confusing your clients it's also somewhat normal to have testing models that don't quite look the way they should.
 
Care if they want their marketing PR to have more credibility to investors and current shareholders than tabloid people like Charlie. This is important for any ipo no matter what company you worship. Fact.
If you don't care why post? You're only defense is 'hai guys I dont care" woopty doo.
 
kadozer said:
Care if they want their marketing PR to have more credibility to investors and current shareholders than tabloid people like Charlie. This is important for any ipo no matter what company you worship. Fact.
If you don't care why post? You're only defense is 'hai guys I dont care" woopty doo.
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IPO?
 
Great news. It will drop 5850,5870 price down as soon as they release gt300 series =D
Good for us consumers.
 
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