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But will it be in stock in greater numbers?
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Heh, I laughed!But will it be in stock in greater numbers?
The marketing for 3090 has been "8k60". We're already seeing that a 3080 isn't that much faster than 2080ti at low resolutions. I wonder if 8k is the only use case that makes sense for a 3090, or if it really is only 19% faster than a 3080.
But will it be in stock in greater numbers?
10% faster then a 3080...100% more expensive
You don’t buy a Titan / 3090 because its value for money, you buy it because you simply want the best.
but is it worth having the best at a 100% markup for a 10% gain?...usually the Titan cards have more then a 10% performance improvement...the 24GB VRAM is mostly irrelevant for gaming
These are not mainstream consumer cards meant only for gaming. Just like the Titans of old.
3090 is titan 3080ti is 3080tiHonestly I believe the 3090 is the TI. They changed the name so they could justify the price increase. If they released it as a 3080ti at $1500 people would of flipped their shit. The Titan going to come out later. I don't think there will be a TI this gen. We might get a super early next year if AMD brings the heat.
I mean, they're kinda half in consumer, half in professional. These are shaping up to be prosumer parts, which some people will find refreshingly approachable and others tremendously expensive.These are not mainstream consumer cards meant only for gaming.
3090 is a lower clock rate and probably hotter, which means less time at boost clock.So, my good old fashioned linear sanity check seems to suggest we should be getting just under 20% improvement over the 3080 at stock boosts.
10496*1700 is 19.9% higher than 8704*1710.
Of course this assumes linear scaling, which you usually do get pretty close to, unless VRAM bandwidth insufficient.
Even 20% is not very much for the money though...
3090 is a lower clock rate and probably hotter, which means less time at boost clock.
So, my good old fashioned linear sanity check seems to suggest we should be getting just under 20% improvement over the 3080 at stock boosts.
10496*1700 is 19.9% higher than 8704*1710.
Of course this assumes linear scaling, which you usually do get pretty close to, unless VRAM bandwidth insufficient.
Even 20% is not very much for the money though...
6:00:01AM PST: OOS3090 goes on sale a 6am PT . Just got an email from nvidia.
Pretty much guarantee you these reports are from nub users who cheaped out on their power supplies and only have a 750w etc...
and it probably would work fine. Not everyone needs seasonic 1000w psus. If the card calls for 320w and the power supply can safely provide that, the problems are with the cards. If I had a car that stalled any time I put anything but Shell 93 octane in the gas tank, it's still a problem with the car, not the gas.Well for the record, there are boosting issues on some of the cards. This is causing the black screen issues. But, yes there will be nubs who do cheap out and get a $50 750w thinking it will work.
and it probably would work fine. Not everyone needs seasonic 1000w psus. If the card calls for 320w and the power supply can safely provide that, the problems are with the cards. If I had a car that stalled any time I put anything but Shell 93 octane in the gas tank, it's still a problem with the car, not the gas.
This is feeling more like an AMD launch than an NVidia launch. Super limited stock, lots of hype, black screens, lol... am I in the twilight zone? Sorry, couldn't resist myself, I'll move along.Well for the record, there are boosting issues on some of the cards. This is causing the black screen issues. But, yes there will be nubs who do cheap out and get a $50 750w thinking it will work.
You say that, but a lot of cheap "750w" PSU's aren't able to provide anything near claimed. I ended up with a non-name brand "850w" PSU... coupled with a pentium G4560 and an AMD 280x... it would shut down if I launched a game. The system load was less than 1/2 the rated. Cheap PSU's gonna be cheap. I don't even remember where that thing came from, probably in a trade or a lot with other stuff, my other 5 desktops have real PSU's. That one got relegated to use for a neighbors kid with an rx560 that it could actually drive. Anyways, when people talk about $40 700w+ PSU's, this is the example they're talking about. Any half decent branded PSU should be able to come close to their rating even if it's not the most efficient thing in the world. It's the really bottom basement stuff that isn't even close to maintaining their ratings and I'd be surprised if any of the power rails actually held ATX spec .and it probably would work fine. Not everyone needs seasonic 1000w psus. If the card calls for 320w and the power supply can safely provide that, the problems are with the cards. If I had a car that stalled any time I put anything but Shell 93 octane in the gas tank, it's still a problem with the car, not the gas.
You say that, but a lot of cheap "750w" PSU's aren't able to provide anything near claimed. I ended up with a non-name brand "850w" PSU... coupled with a pentium G4560 and an AMD 280x... it would shut down if I launched a game. The system load was less than 1/2 the rated. Cheap PSU's gonna be cheap. I don't even remember where that thing came from, probably in a trade or a lot with other stuff, my other 5 desktops have real PSU's. That one got relegated to use for a neighbors kid with an rx560 that it could actually drive. Anyways, when people talk about $40 700w+ PSU's, this is the example they're talking about. Any half decent branded PSU should be able to come close to their rating even if it's not the most efficient thing in the world. It's the really bottom basement stuff that isn't even close to maintaining their ratings and I'd be surprised if any of the power rails actually held ATX spec .
I understand that's why I said low end namebrands are normally fine (just don't expect 80+ platinum efficiency), it's the bottom of the barrel off-brand that actually do have these issues. As you noted, the issues those are seeing aren't due to the power supplies but an issues with either drivers or bios which are causing the cards to shut down when they boost. I really hope the solution isn't to turn the boost down, lol.I agree, which is why I said if the PSU can safely provide the power. I'm more talking about rigs with lower end PSUs, be it cooler master, thermaltake, low end corsair, etc, the name brands that are not usually recommended. I know there are psus out there that can only push 400w but rated for 700+, I am not speaking to those particularly. My point is just that it's easy to blame the PSU for a problem, but if there are widespread issues of black screens and crashes with 3080s, it probably isn't all due to no name PSUs.
lol sold out and I am still looking for some real reviews.looks like it sold out in less than a minute
flipping botsBullshit. Had one in my cart, disappeared, from both Best Buy and Newegg. Bots win again.
lol sold out and I am still looking for some real reviews.
At least you were actually able to get to the checkout. I had multiple pages up, constantly refreshing, and never even saw an Add to Cart option. Went immediately to sold out.Bullshit. Had one in my cart, disappeared, from both Best Buy and Newegg. Bots win again.View attachment 282262
At least you were actually able to get to the checkout. I had multiple pages up, constantly refreshing, and never even saw an Add to Cart option. Went immediately to sold out.
The only time I actually was able to get to a store was when someone posted a link 5 minutes later to get it added to your cart, and by then, it was sold out.