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I am sure your right about AMD and pricing, investors are restless with AMD profit margins while Ngreedia makes about 20% more. That can give AMD a price advantage if taken. The chart has nothing to do with Nvidia Turing pricing.
If this drops the prices of used 2080Ti's then bring them on
If this drops the prices of used 2080Ti's then bring them on
You are really stuck in a loop over the cost per transistor. I dont't even remember anymore which thread I saw it first. I hate that irregardless is now recognized as a word now, I think I'm going to put that in as many threads as I can now. On topic I'm looking forward to all the cards above 2080 performance and hopefully the 3070 will be close to 2080ti performance.
Once again said in repeat, this time in reply to what I said it made even less since. On a comment about how you are saying this alot, you just say it again?
Not surprised but seeing them as digging a hole. Great if they can maintain the chasm but then they may just fall into it as well. True competition which I would expect from Lisa Sue may make some things way more difficult for Jensen. Seeing 60fps titles slotted for the PS5, using RT is very encouraging and also should bring the price point down and not forever rising per Jensen dreams. Does not matter, one should just evaluate what is available as always, not some fanboy wet dream (not saying you are), using non-objective wishful thinking. There just GPUs which after 5 or so years many will just be tossed in the trash can. In the scheme of things not really that important.
Well, considering 3700x was cheaper than 1700 while almost doubling the # of transistors, I have a hard time thinking their prices are going to jump, especially when their current line is already on 7nm. I do agree though, you are always going to pay for new technology and it's a luxury product that will be priced to whatever the market is willing to pay, (mostly) regardless of costs.
...by spreading them out across three dies
So, having 2 dies with almost the same # of transistors of the single, and adding a 2 billion transistor IOD (I/O die) @12nm and having to connect them all together, coming in at a lower price makes what I said, more correct? The 2billion transistor IOD is almost 1/2 the 1700x (4.8billion vs 2.09).... So if the cost of 12nm went up a tiny bit, this would be 1/2 the cost of the entire 1700x by itself. The other 3.9+3.9 (7.8) billion transisors @ 7nm come in at?? Less than 1/2 the original cost of the 4.8billion? Still not sure why splitting them up would make much difference unless you're trying to say binning makes that big of a difference due to the size? Even then it doesn't come close to adding up unless AMD margins dropped tremendously to absorb the difference, but looking at their financials that doesn't seem to be the case....by spreading them out across three dies
Resolving the fuzzy math we need to fake lighting by replacing it with accurate global illumination is a big problem that is solved with ray tracing. You're ill-informed if you think ray tracing is just creating reflections.In the end I think we are all expecting 24-35% performance increases and possibly a doubling or more of RayTracing (aka: Puddles and Mirrors Mode) performance. Meanwhile those cardboard 2d trees still won't appear any closer on the horizon in any game you play today..........and you'll still notice shadows and texture LOD fade-in from 10 feet
Hardware is great and all but....you know...fuck super-accurate reflective puddles, we have bigger problems to solve-for.
I would agree with this, using my RX580 @1440P and dropping everything from ultra to various settings I can pay with it close to locked @60 fps on the division 2 and destiny 2.
And I fully anticipate vendors like eVGA selling "B-stock" 2080TIs for no more than a 15% discount of brand new prices as those prices sit right now.
GTX970 on my second / backup / living room computer... it'll still game. Last one that it struggled with was The Outer Worlds, at 1440p with the settings buried, out of newer AAA games that I've tried (not many).
