NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Video Card Review @ [H]

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  1. ir0nw0lf

    ir0nw0lf [H]ardness Supreme

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    Can we maybe expect a bunch of [butthurt] Titan owners to try to pump and dump 'em on fleaBay here shortly?
     
  2. cannondale06

    cannondale06 [H]ardForum Junkie

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    lol so many people want to insult the Titan owners. I am sure most of them could not care less since they have already had a top end card for up to 9 months now.
     
  3. xorbe

    xorbe [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm sure there will be a few on eBay from those that like to switch up their toys, but doesn't seem like it judging from various threads where actual Titan owners post. I also don't understand why non-Titan owners project so much rage onto others.
     
  4. Banko

    Banko Gawd

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    I might sell mine on ebay and get the 780 TI, but I bought this when it came out and have enjoyed gaming on it for the past 9 months or so.

    Honestly most of the rage comes from a deep down jealousy. It is the same thing when people who mod their car might be faster then a stock Ferrari and calling the Ferrari owner stupid.

    Also with regards to the 290X there is no way I am sticking that thing in my Mini-ITX build.
     
  5. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    Yep my TITANs have rocked it. Got a pair of 290X sitting here now about to test before install into my system.
     
  6. bramahonX

    bramahonX n00b

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    Once again an outstanding review from [H]OCP and so it happens that Nvidia too once again has managed to get the crowning glory back to its camp. One has to wonder though if this is as far as the GK110 can be pushed! To Nvidia's credit, they really have done a nice job with the 780 Ti and somewhat recuperated from damage done by 290 twins. It seems, 780 ti is another fine example of Nvidia's ability to putt together a purpose-built video card. In this case, an increment to the memory frequency with a higher and more consistent boost curve of the core clock seem to have done the trick, pushing the Ti just past the Titan at least in games. Throw that missing SMX into the mix and it easily surpasses the GTX 780. But the fact that it's still an tweaked/overclocked Titan shows in shader heavy benchmarks like Crysis 3 (Apples-to-Apples)!
     
  7. SpeedyVV

    SpeedyVV [H]ardness Supreme

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    Wow, what a great time to be an enthusiast!
    Great display choices, 1080 1200 1440 1600 4k, and throw eyefinity/surround in.
    Great gpus, 770 780 780ti titan 290 290x and all sorts of stable and non stuttering multi gpus tech.
    Great(ish) Intel stuff.

    I can't wait for another great [H] review with multi display / 4k resolutions.

    Honestly I have no idea what the best update for me will be. 780ti could have been an easy choice, but the price just makes that choice very difficult. Bundle is a drag since I want to go sli or even tri sli. And 3gb for 3x1440p vs AMD 4gb adds insult to injury.

    Not an easy time to be a Nvidia fanboai.

    I'll wait for things to settle down a bit I guess. Mantle, drivers, prices, coolers, etc.
     
  8. Sparky

    Sparky 2[H]4U

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    I would like to see Folding@Home benchmarks worked into the reviews if its possible.
     
  9. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    if folding is your top issue you want a Titan
    every thing else has there DP gimped
     
  10. MartinX

    MartinX One Hour Martinizing While You Wait

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    Underwhelmed in general (not with the review, that's great as always :p).

    While the performance on these cards is amazing, AMD is clearly just squeezing the last drops out of old technology, I was hoping for something new from them.

    The 780ti is clearly just a "response" card, and falls short on price.

    Also I don't understand the low vram. We're entering a world where 3GB will be entry level real soon, because of the boosted RAM on the new consoles (COD:Ghosts which, love or hate the series, already has 4GB Vram as it's recommended spec, and BF4 is 3GB recommended).
    For the price nvidia is asking for the 780ti, I'd have expected a little more, especially in that context.

    I'm looking to upgrade, and was waiting to see how the 290x and 780ti panned out, but I'm basically still in holding pattern now. I think it'll come down now to waiting to seeing how mantle and g-sync play out. Maybe even waiting for Maxwell.

    I may just get a PS4 and skip upgrading my PC for a while :p
     
  11. guy_fawkes

    guy_fawkes n00b

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    Well, while we're at it, for putting only 3GB of ram on a newly released $700 flagship video card, fuck nVidia.

    I'm not going to bend over and give Jen Hsun $700 for a video card that has 1GB less video memory than a $400 AMD card, but you can go right ahead and be my guest.
     
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  12. guy_fawkes

    guy_fawkes n00b

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    Considering the temps/fan noise Tom's Hardware was getting with the R9 290 with an Arctic Accelero Xtreme III cooler, those buying the GTX780Ti at $700 will probably want an 80 gallon drum of the stuff:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290-review-benchmark,3659-19.html

    I'm dying to see what the Gigabyte Windforce, Asus Direct CUII, Sapphire Vapor X, MSI Lightning, etc. custom cooled/overclocked versions of the R9 290 can do.
     
  13. Elios

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    wile it seems to fix things
    it still looks like shit
    also 780 has other things like hardware h.264 encoding
    and if you sell the games... the 780Ti is cheaper then a 290x + an after market heatsink
    and the 290x still looks like shit
    then there is the issue ZERO decent vendors that sell AMD cards
    lest EVGA rma's cards for almost any thing friend of mine couldnt get XFX to do an rma about year a go

    so better heat sink out of the box
    better support
    better looking heat sink
    and its cheaper include the pack in games ether if you where going to get them any way or if you sell them
    why is the 780Ti a bad card again?
     
  14. sk3tch

    sk3tch [H]ard|Gawd

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    Let's not kid ourselves here, both the AMD and NVIDIA releases are "squeezing the last drops out of old technology."
     
  15. Brackle

    Brackle Old Timer

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    It's a great card, just a horrible price.
     
  16. FearTheCow

    FearTheCow [H]ardness Supreme

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    So let me get this straight, your biggest bitches about the 290x is that you dont like how it looks.... fucking amazing. Actually, all of your complaints are personal opinions and as such are worth exactly 0.
     
  17. xorbe

    xorbe [H]ardness Supreme

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    nv's favorite game, pick any 2: expensive, pricey, costly.

    :D
     
  18. MartinX

    MartinX One Hour Martinizing While You Wait

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    Yeah, that's what I meant, nvidia were pretty much already at the end of the road until Maxwell, the TI only exists to try and have the last word until then.

    I was more disappointed with AMD though, I was hoping their r8/9 stuff would be the first cards of a new generation, rather than the old ones renamed again, and one just pushed to the limit.

    Neither side is blowing me away right now, but I have a feeling gsync is going to wind up keeping me in the green camp.
     
  19. kache

    kache Gawd

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    Personally I'm just thinking with my wallet, and waiting for another opportunity for me to seize a 780 at 300€, since I lost the last one. :(

    Regarding gsync, I don't think it's gonna really catch up in the desktop market, BUT it's gonna make a HUGE difference in the laptop market, since there are still many people buying gaming laptops, and having smoothness even at 30fps or lower would benefit laptops a lot.
     
  20. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    looks noise and inconsistent clocks
     
  21. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    thing is it doesnt get better for AMD
    from the AMA with AMD on tomshardware there sticking GCN for the next for ever
    no wonder there pushing mantle so hard

    the question are they stuck with GCN because of mantle or are they pushing mantle because there stuck with GCN
    this means no major changes to the architecture only wider/more shaders

    meanwhile NV is moving to a new architecture with Maxwell
     
  22. OpStar

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    Of course G-Sync will catch on in the desktop market!
     
  23. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    thats the other thing
    stuff like G-sync and Shadow play (which will have twitch.tv support soon) and Shield add a lot of value to the 780 line for some people
    again off setting the slightly higher price and or slightly lower frame rates
     
  24. sk3tch

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    They're pushing Mantle because of the huge advantage they have - they're the GPU in both next generation consoles. There is the Xbox One (by Microsoft Corporation) and the Sony PlayStation 4 - they release next week.

    Let's not count AMD out because of an AMA with Tom's Hardware with a few marketing flunkies. And remember - even if you hate AMD, you want AMD to be around and doing well (like they are now) because it keeps your NVIDIA cards pricing low and performance high. The 290 at $400 is the best thing to happen to enthusiasts in a long time...whether you're team red, team green, or team who cares.
     
  25. jihadjoe

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    Nice review!

    Looking forward to a 6GB Lightning version of this.
     
  26. guy_fawkes

    guy_fawkes n00b

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    I'm afraid you missed my point. I referenced the Tom's article showing the temps and noise as an EXAMPLE of what a custom cooled R9 290(X) might be capable of. I didn't say the answer to the current reference R9 290(X) was to buy THAT exact cooler.

    Frankly, I think anyone but water-cooling enthusiasts should hold off on buying anything and wait until end of November/early December for the [H] to test the Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, etc. custom cooled R9 290(X) cards and see what the results are for those cards.
     
  27. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    as i said there are no US vendors worth buying from the make sell AMD hardware
    is part of why i havent touched an AMD/ATi card since the Built by ATi cards stoped
    XFX has burned more then a few friends of mine
    Gigabyte ASUS and MSI arnt any better

    its worth more to me to have good support if some thing goes wrong
     
  28. rinaldo00

    rinaldo00 [H]ard|Gawd

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    because you like it. I dont want guys like you on my team.
     
  29. rinaldo00

    rinaldo00 [H]ard|Gawd

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    I think you just insulted 99% of the AIB brands in one post. Nice job - lol
     
  30. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    that was the idea
    i dont like buying stuff places not based in the US if i can help it
    XFX has awful support

    which leaves eVGA
     
  31. Elios

    Elios [H]ardness Supreme

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    im not on any team
    nvidia is not your friend
    AMD is not your friend
    Intel is not your friend

    eVGA, and Corsair are the only companies left that havent pissed me off in some way
    also BFG be for nvidia fucked them over
     
  32. rinaldo00

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    I cannot believe anyone can take anything you say seriously after those statements.
     
  33. dpoverlord

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    What the reviewers as missing which I would like to see pointed out is the benefit of the Titan over the 780 ti in SURROUND GAMING.

    in 1600p surround I see 3GB usage easily in games like Metro light, even older games like tf2...
     
  34. DeadSkull

    DeadSkull [H]ardness Supreme

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    I think [H] is working on that alongside with overclocked Ti review. Just be patient.
     
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    PRIME1 2[H]4U

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    I'm glad AMD lets you pick 3. Loud, hot, power hungry
     
  36. klepp0906

    klepp0906 Gawd

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    After titans debut and pricing it shouldn't come as a surprise. We are talking about nvidia after all :p

    Now if we could only unlock a titan >.< OR use quad sli with a 780. What was more surprising to me is them supporting quad sli after saying it was a "titan" only thing.

    Still trying to find the sense in that one :p
     
  37. SH1

    SH1 [H]ard|Gawd

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    AMD -- Thank you for shaking things up and getting us lower prices.

    NVIDIA -- Thank you for still including a DAC. (Still got high end CRTs I want high end cards for. Appreciate very much you still making that possible. And some others are still in the same boat as me.)
     
  38. xorbe

    xorbe [H]ardness Supreme

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    You CRT gamer guys are drying up ... good riddance, ye olde analogue twine! :D
     
  39. NCX

    NCX [H]ardness Supreme

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    Waiting (forver?) for 1ghz Zotac AMP! or Galaxy version with custom coolers. 780 ti's should come with the holiday bundle.
     
  40. VIC-20

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    Just installed a 780Ti in my main rig. Wow. Runs heavily modded EnB Skyrim like a dream, on max settings in 1080p. About 46fps outdoors. Feels so much faster than the GTX 670 DirectCu2 ASUS card I was just using, which felt very sluggish as it averaged 12-30fps.

    I know everyone is saying they are overpriced, but it was only $100 more than the average selling 290x in Canada. $699 is not the best bang for the buck mind you, but whatever, I'm very happy with it.