NVIDIA Claims That GPU Prices Will Continue Increasing through Q3 2018

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  1. Best Buy, New Egg, Amazon, and a few others are selling RX580's for $500 which is nothing short of insane. The 1080's are $800 and the 1080Ti's are $1200. None were in. And I'm not touching them till they get close to MSRP. I have deep pockets, but I'm not stupid.
     
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  2. Riptide_NVN

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    Nowinstock with text alerts you don't need to spend 1200$. Not even close.
     
  3. ManofGod

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    HAHAHAHAHA Guess that new Volta stuff will be expensive and not a reasonable MSRP after all. :D
     
  4. ManofGod

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    So, NVidia is lying and they really want to be everyone's pals then, eh? Free video cards for all! :D (They only want one thing, your money and that is all.)
     
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    Real MSRP's are not happening because, after all, Nvidia wants in on the gravy train too. :)
     
  6. ManofGod

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    XBox One X. :) Of course, I bought a Vega 56 because all this stuff started so, I am all set. (I do have an X though and it works quite well.)

    Edit: Cool thing is, pre built computers will sell more often now. Bestbuy has machines in stock at good prices.
     
  7. IdiotInCharge

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    Welcome to market theory 101. Something is worth what someone else is willing to pay for it, nothing insane about it.

    We honestly have no idea: we don't know what MSRP would be set at, we don't know performance, we don't know demand, and we don't know production volume. Many scenarios are possible, and not all are detrimental to gaming.

    Nvidia should get in on the 'gravy train'- it's their innovation that the market is demanding, after all.
     
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    You can't complain if you can't find a card reasonably priced, seems they would listen to you as many times as I have seen people replying like you.

    Seems confusion is Nvidias game as they have been pointing at miners, then not, then it's RAM, then not, then now they are going to raise prices, because reasons. Gotta love it, they just want to be able to respond and agree with anyone's prediction of what is causing or not causing the shortages. It is all very funny.
     
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    You and nearly everyone else. But who cares if we ultimately blow up the industry as long as we can make a buck today?
     
  10. Batboy88

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    it is the miners, interesting that psu's have stayed pretty reasonable though.
     
  11. IdiotInCharge

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    They're not made out of scarce components like DRAM and massive ICs, so increasing production is hardly a strain.

    ;)
     
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    sigh. so much for pushing the limits of game graphics at a time when no one can get cards at reasonable prices to play them
     
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    One psu can power a hand full of cards so not really surprising.
     
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    In other news, water is wet. I’ve had a 1080 on my wishlist for a year now and I don’t think I will ever get around to buying one. On the occasion the price gets near MSRP, I’ve already spend my big ticket budget on other stuff. ‍♂️
     
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    The best time to buy any video card is at launch(with a 1-2 month window for price gouging to subside) or when the next gen comes out.
    A 1080 was pretty cheap just before the 1080ti came out. The prices for RAM and GPUs fluctuates and if you want to buy one or the other you should be monitoring prices. I almost purchased a 1080 because the 1080ti was taking forever to come out, but I waited and the 1080ti proved to be a great upgrade over my 980ti.
     
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    The titan volta looked pretty sad compared a 1080ti to me.
     
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    Didn't people kept preaching how Volta will save gamers from the miners?

    I hope they finally got it through their heads that nvidia isn't going to do crap to save gamers.
     
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    There's dedicated hardware for miners that once a person turns into a true digital currency miner they sell their GPUs and upgrade.
     
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    I am so glad I spent some extra money and bought gtx1080 when I did... Waiting would have bitten me in the arse big time and having a need to upgrade right now would be a financial disaster.
     
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    Learn to backorder instead of waiting for something to be in stock. Shop abroad if needed.
     
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    Buy a whole truck load of video cards and wait for a shortage!
     
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    Of all the times for my 980ti to die, it would be this morning. Now running on an old 770. Looks like really old games only for awhile. At least the 770 can handle Civ V at 4k. I saw this story and then shortly thereafter my card whet up in smoke (and it was a new card originally...this is one good reason I'd never buy a used card, new ones don't last long enough as it is).
     
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    When it rains it pours.
     
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    What brand?
     
  25. Comixbooks

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    I have no problem with cards raised prices. crypto currency though can rot in hell as worthless the stuff is. Cards used to be dirt cheap
     
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    Well, some folks hold off on higher end GPU while new release prices come down. In this case it hasn't happened and only got so much worse with all the mining madness that many can't afford any current gen GPU, much less a higher end card (or simply refuse to pay these bullshit inflated prices). Inflated mining prices have been there for more than a few months now. Mid range and higher cards are selling for double their MSRP.
     
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    If you're paying double or even 1/4 over msrp for a 1080 you are doing it wrong.
     
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    this is a ploy to finally kill PC Gaming !
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    After all these years of pc gaming , I've done since the late 80's too ,it's
    really disheartening to see this slow downward spiral for us ........

    I'd like to upgrade , but I'm not going to pay these overinflated prices..........

    Glad I have a decent library of unplayed games, plus bought a PS4 pro around
    a year ago, not the same as pc gaming , but will have to do........
     
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    Or consoles. The PC gaming industry has/had been experiencing a nice little resurgence...I mean some of us never left, but there is certainly a window of time where consoles were clearly the priority for developers. The 360/PS3 decade.

    Now watch the GPU shortage spawn the next console uptick, depending on how long the mining bubble lasts. Consumers might eventually get tired of waiting to buy a gfx card, and suddenly a $400 PS uber pro or Xbox One Infinity starts to look better and better.
     
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    What nVidia is saying is in order to procure more memory so they can make more GPUs, they will need to pay more for said memory and thus MSRPs will increase as a result.

    HP just announced on Thursday night that their prices will be increasing to cover the cost of higher memory. This is a big development as it’s an acknowledgement that high memory prices are the new norm and not temporary or “cyclical”.

    China won’t produce competitive lastest gen memory until the 2030s. They are not the markets saviors unless you’re looking for super cheap, low performance Chinese gadgets.
     
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    I'm just shocked that the card prices did not crash once they started moving out of the bit coin sweet spot. Figured I'd wait for the 1080ti... and still using 580s in my boxes. Whoops. Prices for any of the 5xx, 6xx, 7xx, 8xx, 9xx, and 10xx cards are nuts. Got capacity for a water cooled card, but Christ alright, prices are messed up.
     
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    EVGA, unfortunately it was a gift and it was never registered for the lifetime warranty. I'll try contacting them, but I'm having trouble getting a copy of the receipt (the gifter is 87 years old and not good at keeping things). The card is less than 3 years old...so maybe. Never thought it would be a problem as I figured on a new card in 3-4 years anyway...who knew there would be such a long term shortage. Plus with volta coming out this year I'd rather not get a new card now. I'm hoping for really good single card 4k performance :)...but this statement from NVIDA means it's probably going to be in short supply too.
     
  33. triwolf

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    Come on now. Cards have been increasing like a boiled frog, they go up a bit each generation. When were they dirt cheap? Is $400-$700 MSRP dirt cheap? What dirt are you buying?

    Hate Crypto all you want, my cards are all paid off and still making money. In school you were known as a "Crier Baby". Why be on the losing team?

    So you are OK with increasing prices on cards, just not if the miners are causing it? Please explain, that makes absolutely no sense.
     
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    I had an EVGA go bad on me after 4 years with visual artifacts. I had no idea they had a lifetime warranty, I'll have to look into that in the future since I like to use cards as long as I can until I'm obviously hurting in the majority of games out there.
     
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    Did you OC your card? Interesting that it just died. It may be a one off, you may have gotten a card with some not so great capacitors or similar. Sure does pay to register the warranty. You did get 3 years out of it, that's quite a long time in computing.
     
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    They haven't moved out of the sweet spot for lots of coins that are not Bitcoin that are still profitable.

    Also, there is plenty of news out there that says that all computing devices are going to cost more because they are using more RAM and there is a limited supply. For the uninitiated, when supply goes down prices go up.
     
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    Actually if anything it will insure improved video card will be released. If you remember during the last recession they didn't update GPUs beyond a refresh. The 290x was only a refresh to the 7970 and the 780 over the 680 for nvidia. This only hurts the lazy people that try to hold into their low end cards for 5 years.
     
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    High memory prices are here to stay. Too many new sources of demand that are increasing at rapid rates - AI, AV, cloud infrastructure, etc
     
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    Only the factory OC it came with. I got 2.4 years out of it. But like I said I figured to get a card two generations later...if it had lasted a full three years, and no mining craze, that would be great...but the current prices are just out of site for me right now. I think a 1070 would be about the same speed but those are about what I paid for this card, depressing.

    The good news is turns out the original purchaser got it from Amazon (he couldn't remember so I had him check)...so armed with a receipt hopefully it will get repaired. It showed no signs of overheating. Literally smoked when it went out. But I'd been having some boot problems lately and though it's only been a few hours they seem to have gone away. The computer won't boot at all now with this card plugged in...so it's been on the way out for awhile I just didn't know what was causing the problem.

    Just a month ago I was wondering if it would be worth selling my 770, but decided to keep it as a spare, glad I did...especially since x99 has no on board video.