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Quite a few of his leaks and Analysis is pretty damn good compared to 90% of the industry. Not saying he is right all the time, but he right and spot on a hell of a lot more then most people.
I kinda doubt they will ever be held accountable. Every company likes to talk up their new book and try to make it look as good as they can. And with carefully worded stuff like "up to" they can still be technically right.
Can you show me any current new gen game that can play at 8k 60fps on a 3090 as Nvidia stated? There is no "up to" in that comment.
And who will hold them accountable? Nvidia can just say hell to the gamin market if they want too. We are at their mercy and they know it.
So you are saying if people with an 8k monitor want to run at 60fps to basically lower the resolution down to get those 60fps at 8k even though it really isn't playing at 8k?
You could probably find one. I don't really know of many monitors that even support 8k so it's sort of a throwaway statement.
Can't say that thread is not exactly on point.
Well it's a comparison to a 3090 ti. If you take the 3080 10gb (which most people have) and compare it to the 4080 16gb and lets assume you get nearly 2x raster performance, how is that not a significant performance increase?
Is there anything to base that assumption on?
I am generally overly optimistic. I am pessimistic about this because they are quoting 2X-4X performance improvements which look to be mainly dlss related then have a sneaky graph at the end with more sane projections in more rasterized scenarios.
lol, my god....read the fine print. Using DLSS performance mode. No one will EVER use that crap performance mode since the IQ is ass. Again terrible graphs from Nvidia.
It takes zero brain power to blindly believe marketing.
But its 4x better using DLSS performance mode! lol
I'm just using that chart and extrapolating based on that. It's very rough I'll give you that and I'm not buying anything until we get independent reviews but 1.5-2.0x raster would be my guess going from 3080 10gb -> 4080 16gb.
Nvidia(and other manufacturers) want to segment you with naming conventions. Consumers segment themselves with price brackets. I think what a lot of folks are getting at is that Nvidia or AMD can call their cards X080 or X800, but if the price clearly aligns with a previous gen top tier card, X090 or X900, these miraculous 2x performance figures are meaningless. It would be like rebranding last gens 3090ti a 4060, keeping the price at $1500, and then preaching to the tech press that the 4060 is 4x faster than the 3060. Yea, technically that is true, but you didn’t really deliver any increased value to the customer because you didn’t make the 4060 any better to anybody shopping in the 3060 price bracket.
You have a point. I just looked into the 3090ti. It is faster than I remembered. I had it in my head from the early 3080/3090 reviews where there was a ~8%-12% performance difference. I assumed it was just a few percent more than that.
The rasterized graphs are still over 40% uplift compared to previous gen and 200-400% with RTX. I can't see how someone can see that as concerning.
The WTF pricing is the problem. Generational uplifts like that generally don’t add $400-$500.
Exactly, if it’s 2x-4x. The pricing is scummy, but I would pay it.
Yes, and I was ready to buy a 3090, until Nvidia revealed that the MSRP was $1500. Then I realized what a horrible value the 3090 was, and ended up getting the $700 3080 FE instead. The 3080 was a good value considering the performance it provided (20-30% faster than a $1200 2080 Ti). The RTX 4000 series of cards, however, are not based on what we know right now.
Will it do frame generation in a dlss 2.0 game? Id imagine its more apples to apples than that with it being dlss 2.0.
got a box with a basic 1080 going strong on the wife's desk (Ryzen 9 3900x), would love a cheap 3070 to pop into that thing. But she's not "complaining" about it yet so I have time, just not a lot of time...
You expect when the up to is used in marketing that it will not be the average case (AMD latest presentation was so much better), but saying that being at 8K video gaming cards was ridiculous because a game that didn't exist when the 3090 launched does not play well with RayTracing and everything at ultra is a bit of the reverse medal here.
Missing from that is the settings... DLSS PERFORMANCE mode, which is poopoo in terms of IQ.
Doom Eternal was their poster boy for a reason, easy to enough to run: